Merged Israel Attacks Palestinian Aid Flotilla, According To Reports

[Thunder]

Well, at least from this flotilla incident, err, the one ship that is, we can pun the new term:

'Suicide Activist'


Has quite the ring to it.

come on my ship, in international waters, in violation of international law, and I'll beat your ass too.

there are consequences to thinking you can do whatever you want, wherever you want, whenever you want.

 

[WildCat]

Well, at least from this flotilla incident, err, the one ship that is, we can pun the new term:

'Suicide Activist'


Has quite the ring to it.

The really amazing thing is how many in the media and here fall for this transparent ploy, and eagerly become the useful idiots supporting the Hamas cause.

 

[a_unique_person]

I don't support Hamas. Children are having their growth and mental development affected by poor nutrition.

 

[DC]

wanting to bring in food and supplies to 1.5 million people= supporting the Hamas cause.

nice job Wildcat. I believe this is strawman number 945 for you.

have you watched the video?

 

[Thunder]

have you watched the video?

i watched about 15 seconds. i saw a video that started at a specific point that was chosen for very specific reasons.

i am really not interested in these videos. I want an international investigation to find out what happened. all you novice investigators don't impress me.

 

[WildCat]

I don't support Hamas.

Yet you want them to have a seaport, yes?

 

[DC]

i watched about 15 seconds. i saw a video that started at a specific point that was chosen for very specific reasons.

i am really not interested in these videos. I want an international investigation to find out what happened. all you novice investigators don't impress me.

you should have watched it.

 

[Thunder]

Yet you want them to have a seaport, yes?

I hated George W. Bush, but that doesn't mean they should have closed the Port of Newark because he was an ass.

I also want the people of Gaza to have ALL the food, fuel, and civilian supplies they need to live perfectly healthy and normal lives and to rebuild their homes, communities, and infrastructure.

Doe this make me a Hamas supporter?

 

[DC]

Yet you want them to have a seaport, yes?

well thats a strawman, thats not what he wants, that might be what will happen because he actually wants the Palestinian people to have a port. (based on the video)

 

[funk de fino]

If the blockade is lifted Hamas has a port. And they will import weapons, bigger ones with longer ranges than they have now.

Does anyone here even dispute that, except Thunder-parky?

Are we punishing Hamas here or the population of Gaza?

 

[a_unique_person]

Yet you want them to have a seaport, yes?

The only reason there is a flotilla is because Israel is not allowing sufficient nutrition through by land. So stop making stupid assumptions about what I think and why I think it. You keep breaking forum rules here by attacking individuals.

 

[Thunder]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/03/american-reportedly-killed-gaza-flotilla-raid/

in other news, it looks like the IDF killed an American citizen on the main ship, shooting him several times in the head and chest.

thanks Israel. thanks for killing one of my fellow Americans. may justice rain upon you.

 

[Puppycow]

Are we punishing Hamas here or the population of Gaza?

Hamas.

 

[Thunder]

Hamas.

The Israelis have already said that the people of Gaza= Hamas.

There are clearly no civilians in Gaza, as far as Israel is concerned.

 

[JHawke]

wanting to bring in food and supplies to 1.5 million people= supporting the Hamas cause.

nice job Wildcat. I believe this is strawman number 945 for you.

Well to quote my self: Here's the warning that the ships were given several times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6jDIQr59Sk


Transcript:

Israel Navy: "Mavi Marmara, you are approaching an area of hostilities which is under a naval blockade. The Gaza area coastal region and Gaza harbor are closed to all maritime traffic. The Israeli government supports delivery of humanitarian supplies to the civilian population in the Gaza Strip and invites you to enter the Ashdod port. Delivery of supplies in accordance with the authorities' regulations will be through the formal land crossings and under your observation, after which you can return to your home ports on the vessels on which you have arrived."

Response: "Negative, negative."

If the activists wanted their aid delivered, they could have.. They would even have been allowed to watch it happen.

But obviously the activists wanted to cause trouble (don't try to deny this). I guess it was to put some publicity on the blockade/Israel or whatever their objective was. I'm not sure, but I'm sure they had one. And boy, did their publicity stunt succeed.

If you just want to deliver aid too starving civilians, you don't bring sling-shots, knifes and gasmasks. Maybe it was used by the people on ship (probably) or maybe it was meant to be delivered to someone in Gaza.

And why would someone in Gaza need slingshots and gasmask?

I'm not saying it is okay for Israel to shoot 9-10(?) people.. But if you don't want to get shot, don't fight armed soldiers.

 

[a_unique_person]

Well, if by scuffles he meant the Commandos were immediately attacked and separated from one another, sure. Have you seen the videos I and others have posted when they are beaten with pipes and chains as soon as they hit the deck? That is not a scuffle.



Execution style or what? Four people with gunshot wounds to the head does not denote execution. It very well may be true but there is no visual evidence to support it.



A_U_P and JJ what gives? I thought all of their cameras and equipment was taken / destroyed?

http://www.theage.com.au/world/battle-to-save-photographs-20100604-x9lc.html

With satellite communication jammed, there was no way to transmit the images. She used gaffer tape to hide the micro SD cards on her body and clothes.
Two Israeli Zodiacs appeared on either side of her boat and the commandos boarded.
''As soon as he [an Israeli soldier] got to the top he lunged towards me … the guy was on top of me … I released [the camera].''
Despite numerous searches, including a strip search, she saved three cards. The Israelis had found three in her clothing, but she had hung on to the other three - two on herself and one in luggage.

 

[JHawke]

those damn civil rights activist instigators were just looking for trouble, trying to register Negroes to vote, and marching down the streets of Selma, AL. They knew what they were gettin' into.

Again, and now try to read this:

The Israeli government supports delivery of humanitarian supplies to the civilian population in the Gaza Strip and invites you to enter the Ashdod port. Delivery of supplies in accordance with the authorities' regulations will be through the formal land crossings and under your observation, after which you can return to your home ports on the vessels on which you have arrived."

Why not accept? Why fight?

 

[Safe-Keeper]

The only reason there is a flotilla is because Israel is not allowing sufficient nutrition through by land. So stop making stupid assumptions about what I think and why I think it. You keep breaking forum rules here by attacking individuals.

The activists feel the Palestinian people aren't getting enough food, so they send a shipment of... cement and LEGO bricks.

Okay.

 

[Thunder]

Why not accept? Why fight?

its called "an investigation".

lets let it happen.

 

[Thunder]

The activists feel the Palestinian people aren't getting enough food, so they send a shipment of... cement and LEGO bricks.

Okay.

Israel is afraid of Iran shipping missiles to Hamas, so they stop a boat filled with....cement and LEGO bricks.

Okay.