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Merged Israel Attacks Palestinian Aid Flotilla, According To Reports

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/01/israeli-soldiers-mavi-marmara

One of them said that each soldier descending by rope on to the boat was assailed by three or four activists. "They just started beating him up, tearing him to pieces – it was a lynch," the soldier said. He added that the activists were armed with metal rods, knives, slingshots and glass bottles, and were at one point firing live rounds. "They started hitting me with the metal rods, and while defending myself, I guess I broke my arm," he said. "At this point I didn't have a weapon in my hands." The soldiers said those aboard the Marmara came prepared for battle, while the soldiers were "prepared to straighten things out, talk to them".
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Robin said:
So how is that blacked out???
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It has been blacked out by keeping the people, who they are now releasing, in prison, incommunicado. Controlling the initial, dominant narrative is an important part of shaping a propaganda narrative.

They also appear to have stolen all passenger records of the assault, as well as having smashed film equipment during the raid. They have taken control of the crime scene, with ample opportunity to destroy evidence of what actually happened.

The US governing regime is now recommending that Israel investigates itself...
 
Robin said:
I don't know what media you are watching/listening to/reading.

But I am getting a lot more than just the Israeli government narrative. In fact I am finding that the Israeli government narrative is getting somewhat short shrift on much of the media.

I have watched CNN, Fox, AlJazeera and our local Australian news services and local newspapers, getting a fairly broad idea of the different narratives provided. AlJazeera gives the Israeli government line, but always with a skeptical comment tacked on the back.

I am waiting for the journalists on board the flotilla to be released to hear their version of events.
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The only information on which to base any narrative of the attack has been that provided by the Israelis. Until recently, there has been no other witness testimony.
 
JihadJane said:
It has been blacked out by keeping the people, who they are now releasing, in prison, incommunicado. Controlling the initial, dominant narrative is an important part of shaping a propaganda narrative.
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They sure did a poor job of that since the major US networks have been strewn with sharp rebukes of Israel even though the evidence contradicts your dominant narrative.
 
'Fire Started Before IDF Landing, Wounded bled to Death"
“I felt that I would not get out alive from Flotilla of humanitarian ships. It was possible to stop the fleet, but not in this way with the use of military brutality, weapons and the horrific attack on over 600 participants in the campaign, who all were civilians, parliamentarians, peace activists” said Hanan Al-Zoubi, the Arab-Israeli Knesset member from National Democratic Alliance who was on one of the ships during the Israeli maritime piracy operation against the International peace activists on their way to break the genocidal siege imposed on Gaza."


"Al- Zoubi stressed that the attack took place on the ship in international waters, at a distance of 130 miles from the coast, at around quarter past fourth early at dawn. She pointed out that the campaign organizers had asked the passengers to wear life jackets, but that the commandos landing started out very fast. In less than 10 minutes there were already 3 dead and dozens wounded.“

http://www.kawther.info/wpr/2010/06/01/fire-started-before-idf-landing-wounded-bled-to-death
 
JihadJane said:
It has been blacked out by keeping the people, who they are now releasing, in prison, incommunicado. Controlling the initial, dominant narrative is an important part of shaping a propaganda narrative.

They also appear to have stolen all passenger records of the assault, as well as having smashed film equipment during the raid. They have taken control of the crime scene, with ample opportunity to destroy evidence of what actually happened.
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We do this because we superior and think to erase evidence in advance.

The US governing regime is now recommending that Israel investigates itself...
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This because we Jews control US regime and do what we say. We Jews smart.
 
JHawke said:
and finally a picture of some of the weapons oboard Mavi Marmari

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Zionist lies! Those were just tools and material to build a baby milk factory.
 
Ferguson said:
It is sick that a mother would use her own child for political cache in such a manner, even sicker is how well it seemed to work.
All criminals should just start carrying around babies, then they're completely unassailable, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
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Yes, what could possibly be the reason? See if you can come up with one that makes sense and you might understand what this flotilla was about. There were women, children and pensioners on the boats.

Clue: Rambling about criminals carrying babies around is not going to help you gain any insight whatsoever, assuming that's what you're interested in.
 
JHawke said:
and finally a picture of some of the weapons oboard Mavi Marmari

[qimg]http://i48.tinypic.com/2ag2fpl.jpg[/qimg]
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If someone came into my house right now they could find all those items except for the shawls.
 
stilicho said:
False. We'd seen stories such as this: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/05/31/bc-kevin-neish-gaza-ship.html. All the "witness testimony" was from friends of the "peace activists".
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...g-after-ship-raided-by-israel/article1586701/
His job onboard: “human shield.[...]Mr. Neish joined the convoy as a human shield. Friends said he drew on his experience as a rugby player, blocking the hallway and taking a beating by soldiers so as to buy journalists on board his ship time to file stories in the event of being boarded. ”
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I guess he got what he wanted.
 
JHawke said:
....and finally a picture of some of the weapons oboard Mavi Marmari
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Pathetic!


...and, in the interest of balanced reporting, please post some links to videos of passengers being shot in the head.
 
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noreligion said:
Covert? How do you know about it?
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The official line is to neither confirm nor deny the Israeli nuclear arsenal, but it is pretty generally known.

What is your claim? That the program is overt and official? Or that there is no Israeli nuclear program?
 
JihadJane said:
Yes, what could possibly be the reason? See if you can come up with one that makes sense and you might understand what this flotilla was about. There were women, children and pensioners on the boats.

Clue: Rambling about criminals carrying babies around is not going to help you gain any insight whatsoever, assuming that's what you're interested in.
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Your own link stated this:

"because we knew there would be a confrontation "

Now why would anyone bring kids if they knew confrontation was going to happen?
 
JihadJane said:
The only information on which to base any narrative of the attack has been that provided by the Israelis. Until recently, there has been no other witness testimony.
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That is obviously untrue.

I have been hearing other witness testimony from very early on, from various sources as I already pointed out.
 
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