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Merged Israel Attacks Palestinian Aid Flotilla, According To Reports
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Lord help me, I really can't tell if you seriously believe that or not.
Just ask Kotatsu, they knew a whole week beforehand that something was going to go down, and just a tweet was enough set off the protests in motion, all organized by political parties, NGOs and such.
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funk de fino
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Same old excuses, semantics, deflections and quibbling. Read a dictionary.
When I got punished for something my brother did but would not admit it was collective punishment. I dont need to read the GC to understand English.
This is dumb even for you.
Cleon
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*facepalm* Wow. Just...Wow.
Yes, Twitter, facebook, and so on can be used to pull together demonstrations in a hurry--in fact, it takes very little to organize a demonstration quickly. You pick a time and a place, and then...Tell people about it. That's really all there is to it. And considering that text messages, twitter, facebook, and so on make telling people about it super-easy, that really takes a lot of the work out of it.
Posters? Signs? Most people make their own, and it doesn't take a long time to grab a piece of posterboard and make up a small sign. Others, such as activists who go to a lot of demonstrations, quite likely already have pre-made signs regarding the subject that can be re-used.
There's really no need to plan a "response demonstration" months in advance. The only kind of rallies that absolutely require that sort of planning are the ones where you expect thousands of participants, like the 2003-04 anti-war rallies. In those cases, you need to plan for permits, street closings, port-a-potties, first aid, and so on. But just to get some people out on (public) street corners with signs? No significant planning needed.
I can tell you for a fact that at least here in Atlanta there was no advance preparation for a demonstration, but one was called together as soon as people heard about the raid.
No, there wasn't some international conspiracy to organize a response demonstration before the fact.
And what about work, don't people work on monday afternoons in Atlanta?
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I think this red herring is particularly disgusting and you should be ashamed.
Seriously, this is the kind of stuff you'd find on Stormfront.
an illegal, immoral, and terrorist naval blockade.
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Memorial day.
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And this from the 'person' who used deformed Palestinian children as a joke.
The hypocrisy of Zionists never changes.
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You forgot imperialist and Zionist.
Also, you're dodging the fact that I answered your question. You asked how a bunch of activists can provoke a military attack. I answered that running a whole flotilla of ships carrying gods know what into of their blockades, for then to ignore orders to stop, accomplishes this nicely.
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Cleon
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And the rest of my post is just one big lie, right?
Look, agree with my politics, don't agree with my politics, but what I'm saying is true regardless of the subject of the demonstration. It would still be true if we were talking about anti-abortion activists or pro/anti-immigrant groups.
And, what's more, I can give you two good reasons why you should believe me:
1. I've been involved in organizing such events in the past, and know what sort of effort goes into them. I know, firsthand, what can be done on super-short notice using social networking tools.
2. I'm rather well-connected with the local Palestine solidarity movement. If something was being planned ahead of time, I'd've heard about it.
In short...I'm likely the only person in this thread, regardless of their stance on Israel/Palestine, who knows what the hell he's talking about on this particular subject. You can disagree with me out of spite, but not based on the facts.
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Don't people care about piracy and massacres wherever you are?
oh. my bad.
I guess you can joke about bulldozers crushing people, but I can't joke about lampshades and soap.
mea culpa.
Mycroft
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By the same token, war causes hardships for civilian populations, yet war is not illegal. Therefore it's simply not logical to define everything that causes a hardship as "collective punishment."
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