The Freeman Movement and England

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Stacey Grove said:
But hang on, it appears you don't get all of that. Well not at this moment.
Note the word "eventually";)



Oh, and on Icke's a while back he murmured that the first one thousand members for a donation of $1000 would receive even greater benefits.
Now, let me see....1000 multiplied by $1000 hmmmm.......


Also, it's hardly a "freeman" movement if you have to carry an ID card. Even the British government has dropped the idea of ID cards.
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I think I'll sign up by A4Ving my membership fee.

FOTLers sure do seem to like fiat currency, don't they. I wonder why that is?
 
Sledge said:
You have to discuss ideas. You're too much of a chicken to put your ideas to the test and give people some events to discuss. Run along now. Go play in your sandpit with the other sheeple so the adults can talk about your silliness here uninterupted.
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So before I go, just to get the record straight, for my project, so I can pay homage to the great minds here, people who choose to think for themselves instead of doing without question what they are told by the government are 'sheeple', and, (Oh I love this one) your idea of adult discussion is equating someone with a barnyard animal.

Okay I will pass that fact on to the public, so they can see what amazing minds reside here habitually.

Why did I not stick around you ask Same reason I do not hang out all day with petulant children who are only capable of barn yard insults. It is simply boring, and I have better things to do, like become a peace officer and set up a national force of civilian and Freeman peace officers. Which is well under way, incidentally.

Well hope you all have fun here pretending that barn yard insults is debunking and a mature and adult form of discussion.

Peace eh?
Rob
 
FreemanMenard said:
and I have better things to do, like become a peace officer and set up a national force of civilian and Freeman peace officers. Which is well under way, incidentally.
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What happens if your fellow Canadians do not consent to your peace officers' authority?
 
FreemanMenard said:
Why did I not stick around you ask Same reason I do not hang out all day with petulant children who are only capable of barn yard insults. It is simply boring, and I have better things to do, like become a peace officer and set up a national force of civilian and Freeman peace officers. Which is well under way, incidentally.
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I am very interested in this. Please drop by regularly and keep us updated on how this goes. Will you be armed? What will your response be when challenged by law enforcement? Should we be worried about shootouts between FOTLers and cops?
 
D'rok said:
Menard foot, meet Menard mouth.
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I was meeting you at your level, in order to raise you up a bit. I was doing it for you! And at great sacrifice I might add... That was my idea. We can discuss it if you wish, or you can continue to discuss me and other people who do not think as amazingly critically as you geniuses all do.

Hey why not do a count of all the posts here and see how many would qualify as mere insulting attacks and were not posted by me? If those out number mine, then you know I am merely trying to fit in, while I invite some to a higher and much better way of thinking.

What I find so humbling is how you all manage to keep such an open mind, while being so scientifically and empirically critical. How you manage to debunk the opinions and views of others and NEVER have to resort to insulting the party or people whose opinions you do not share. I like also how you never feel the need to examine perspectives not already your own, cause yours are so perfect.

I am amazed at how together you all are! So open minded, respectful, dignified and mature! :rolleyes:
 
FreemanMenard said:
I was meeting you at your level, in order to raise you up a bit. I was doing it for you! And at great sacrifice I might add... That was my idea. We can discuss it if you wish, or you can continue to discuss me and other people who do not think as amazingly critically as you geniuses all do.

Hey why not do a count of all the posts here and see how many would qualify as mere insulting attacks and were not posted by me? If those out number mine, then you know I am merely trying to fit in, while I invite some to a higher and much better way of thinking.

What I find so humbling is how you all manage to keep such an open mind, while being so scientifically and empirically critical. How you manage to debunk the opinions and views of others and NEVER have to resort to insulting the party or people whose opinions you do not share. I like also how you never feel the need to examine perspectives not already your own, cause yours are so perfect.

I am amazed at how together you all are! So open minded, respectful, dignified and mature! :rolleyes:
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So stick around and lead by example. You know exactly what we want. We want some evidence that your "ideas" have some basis in reality. We want some evidence that the "remedies" you sell actually work. We want you to show us that you are not the transparent fraud that you appear to be.

Get to it or go away.
 
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D'rok said:
I am very interested in this. Please drop by regularly and keep us updated on how this goes. Will you be armed? What will your response be when challenged by law enforcement? Should we be worried about shootouts between FOTLers and cops?
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Hi! These are actually all very good questions, and ones I would be happy to answer. If you have more of this nature please share them with me, and I will do my best to answer them in my next video, which is in production now. (I am rendering on the other machine)

Short answers are :
NO not at first and never unless necessary.
Peaceful recording and witnessing.
No you have no need to worry about that, that I can see.
 
Menard,
I wonder what the big problem is here?
Can't you just supply information on your successful court cases, that would remove the doubt about FMOTL methods and shut up your detractors.

There must be some kind of public record of court cases, right? :)
 
FreemanMenard said:
Hi! These are actually all very good questions, and ones I would be happy to answer. If you have more of this nature please share them with me, and I will do my best to answer them in my next video, which is in production now. (I am rendering on the other machine)

Short answers are :
NO not at first and never unless necessary.
Peaceful recording and witnessing.
No you have no need to worry about that, that I can see.
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So what do you hope to accomplish with this? Can't you explain it without a video?
 
We want.... We want..... We want......


Well, well well, you sure have a extremely well developed sense of entitlement there do you not?

Let me ask you this:
Do your wants create an obligation upon me to provide?

Are you willing to pay me to meet your wants, or are you so naturally and inherently entitled, that you feel you have the right to demand my performance without payment of any sort? And if you d not get it, you get to demand performance of me leaving?

Is this the mentality you embrace and if so I think I know why the Freeman perspective is so scary to you.
 
FreemanMenard said:
We want.... We want..... We want......


Well, well well, you sure have a extremely well developed sense of entitlement there do you not?

Let me ask you this:
Do your wants create an obligation upon me to provide?

Are you willing to pay me to meet your wants, or are you so naturally and inherently entitled, that you feel you have the right to demand my performance without payment of any sort? And if you d not get it, you get to demand performance of me leaving?

Is this the mentality you embrace and if so I think I know why the Freeman perspective is so scary to you.
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There is no obligation whatsoever on you to provide any evidence for your claims to any of us here.

Sure would be nice if you did though.
 
FreemanMenard said:
Well, well well, you sure have a extremely well developed sense of entitlement there do you not?

Let me ask you this:
Do your wants create an obligation upon me to provide?
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That depends entirely on what you want, doesn't it? ;) I suspect you have only returned here because you have learned about jargon buster's site, which could demolish your little setup quite nicely. After all, it wouldn't do to be selling Freeman materials when nobody's buying, now would it?

Are you willing to pay me to meet your wants, or are you so naturally and inherently entitled, that you feel you have the right to demand my performance without payment of any sort? And if you d not get it, you get to demand performance of me leaving?
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On the contrary, it would be ideal if you stayed around, whether or not you respond to the questions posed. Your non-responses are equally as informational as your responses, and the questions you ignore provide plenty of knowledge simply by the fact of you ignoring them.

Let's start with this. What are the court case #s that demonstrate FMOTL success?
 
Hi, Rob.
Me again.
What happens if somebody states that they do not contract or consent to your peace officers?
 
FreemanMenard said:
Sure can. But will choose not to, as a video has greater impact and involves less typing. You do not mind me making my own choices do you?
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On the matter of how you choose to communicate? Knock yourself out. On the matter of your choices regarding promoting harmful nonsense for profit? I do indeed mind. You are as bad as the snake oil salesmen who promote magnets as cures for cancer. You harm people.

You could prove me wrong with some evidence.
 
I think Rob knows his time is short, which is why hes become absolutely hysterical these last few weeks. Hes gone from simply being yet another woo scamming other deranged people to near foaming at the mouth hysterics and paranoia.

The thing about freeman on the land woo is that it promises much and delivers nothing, because its all made up. True, were dealing with less than intelligent people to begin with who fall for it, but not all of them will put up with 0 results indefinitely. There are a small group of the really delusional who will, but they don't have the disposable income to keep Rob's scam afloat.

Interestingly, Rob does not accept A4V for his swag and other products. I wonder why...
 
FreemanMenard said:
So before I go, just to get the record straight, for my project, so I can pay homage to the great minds here, people who choose to think for themselves instead of doing without question what they are told by the government are 'sheeple', and, (Oh I love this one) your idea of adult discussion is equating someone with a barnyard animal.
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The adult discussion with you ended a long time ago. You were asked for proof of your claims and provided none. Anyone who is prepared to go along with anything you say is not thinking for themselves but following a shepherd.

Oh, and apparently I wasn't clear. I wasn't calling you a barnyard animal. I was calling you a coward. On reflection, I'll add charlatan. Better?
Okay I will pass that fact on to the public, so they can see what amazing minds reside here habitually.
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As they're freethinkers, I'm sure they'll come and see what people say for themselves. I wonder what they'll make of your inability to defend your ideas?

No, wait. They're sheeple. No need for you to worry, their wooly little heads won't be able to accept the notion that you talk out of a section of anatomy that your betters use for sitting on.
Why did I not stick around you ask
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Must be thinking of someone else. I didn't ask the question, nor would I have ever bothered to. I already know the answer.
Same reason I do not hang out all day with petulant children who are only capable of barn yard insults. It is simply boring, and I have better things to do, like become a peace officer and set up a national force of civilian and Freeman peace officers. Which is well under way, incidentally.
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You keep pretending that as you run away from criticism.
Well hope you all have fun here pretending that barn yard insults is debunking and a mature and adult form of discussion.
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Like I said, you were debunked a long time ago. Now you're a chew toy. Not a particularly good one, but you'll do for now.
Peace eh?
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Peace on you, as Spike Milligan would have said.
D'rok said:
There is no obligation whatsoever on you to provide any evidence for your claims to any of us here.
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I'd sorta disagree with that. People are of course entitled to think and believe whatever they want. As soon as they put those thoughts or beliefs into public, and especially if they're claiming that those thoughts and beliefs are a guide for other people to act on, they have an obligation to show their working, as it were.
 
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