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Proof of reincarnation

headscratcher4 said:
Reincarnation...ok. Someone please explain. There are lots, lots, lots (I mean lots) more people alive today than ever before. Assume reincarnation, where to all of the extra bodies/souls come from?
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As much as I doubt reincarnation, I don't like this kind of questions either. It's an appeal to ignorance, no better than Creationists asking what came before the Big Bang, or how the eye evolved.
 
psychicwonderer628 said:
dafydd, no rock solid proof but there isn't proof for a lot of things. Reincarnation only makes sense. Plus what I have experienced myself at two psychic readings...see my posts re Suzane Northrop
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800 dollars for a private consultation and 500 for the phone.Have you ever heard of cold reading? She's laughing all the way to the bank.
 
'Evolution' is a Theory; 'Reincarnation' is a Fantasy.

gerg said:
No conclusive proof but a strong belief. Likewise, there is no conclusive proof for the theory of evolution and yet a lot of people believe in it.
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Everybody is entitled to make up their own minds, but not their own facts. Validity of a belief is not in any way related to the number of people that believe in it. Facts do not come into existence simply because they are believed. Knowledge eliminates the need for belief.

Anecdote is not evidence. Anecdote is to evidence what correlation is to causation. Any opinion, however well-founded, is irrelevant when in conflict with the facts.
 
Fnord said:
Everybody is entitled to make up their own minds, but not their own facts. Validity of a belief is not in any way related to the number of people that believe in it. Facts do not come into existence simply because they are believed. Knowledge eliminates the need for belief.

Anecdote is not evidence. Anecdote is to evidence what correlation is to causation. Any opinion, however well-founded, is irrelevant when in conflict with the facts.
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Well you do get a lot of people rabbiting on about the theory of evolution as if it's an accepted fact. I hear even some schools teach about it even though many scientists ridicule the theory. So I guess in that example, I would argue that the validity of the belief is related to the number of people that believe it.
 
gerg said:
Well you do get a lot of people rabbiting on about the theory of evolution as if it's an accepted fact. I hear even some schools teach about it even though many scientists ridicule the theory. So I guess in that example, I would argue that the validity of the belief is related to the number of people that believe it.
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It is a fact, just because you don't believe it doesn't make it not true, the people that say its a fact aren't using a belief system, they have the empirical data that proves it. Facts always outweigh belief, so your opinion isn't even valid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact
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Marduk said:
It is a fact, just because you don't believe it doesn't make it not true, the people that say its a fact aren't using a belief system, they have the empirical data that proves it. Facts always outweigh belief, so your opinion isn't even valid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact
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From the same article "Evolution has been described as "fact and theory", "fact not theory", and "only a theory, not a fact". Conclusive? Give... me.. a... break!
 
And the very next line is "This illustrates a confusion in terminology that hampers discussion." How about you read the whole damn article instead of skimming through for a line you can twist to support your wilful ignorance?
 
Sledge said:
And the very next line is "This illustrates a confusion in terminology that hampers discussion." How about you read the whole damn article instead of skimming through for a line you can twist to support your wilful ignorance?
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And again from the same article ""In an absolute sense evolution is not a fact" Just accept it Sledge! :)
 
And again, the next line: "evolution is as much a fact as anything we know in science." READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE. STOP QUOTE MINING.
 
gerg said:
Well you do get a lot of people rabbiting on about the theory of evolution as if it's an accepted fact. I hear even some schools teach about it even though many scientists ridicule the theory. So I guess in that example, I would argue that the validity of the belief is related to the number of people that believe it.
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Yours is only an opinion, and has no supporting evidence. The correct form is to state, "The validity of a theory is determined by both the quality and quantity of the evidence that supports it."

Generally, the more validity a theory has, the more people will believe it. However, mere belief in an unsupportable "theory" does not make it valid.

a. Reincarnation has no validity, no evidence to support it, and has many believers.
b. The Theory of Evolution has validity, has evidence to support it, and has many believers.
:: It is the supporting evidence, and not the quantity of believers, that determines validity.

If it were otherwise, then how should you respond to the popular belief that you don't know what you are talking about?
 
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gerg said:
From the same article "Evolution has been described as "fact and theory", "fact not theory", and "only a theory, not a fact". Conclusive? Give... me.. a... break!
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You do not understand what a theory means in science; it does not mean a guess. Gravitational theory, germ theory of disease . . . these ring a bell? The theory of evolution explains the facts behind the hypothesis, the evidence, which is massive. In fact it is argued that evolution has more evidentiary weight than any other scientific theory.
 
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