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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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DOC said:
DOC said:
Do you have any evidence you were born on earth and not transported here by aliens A birth certificate could be forged (Some say that is what happened with Obama). Your relatives could be lying to you. Do you have film of your actual birth. Even that could be a fake.
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Obviously, I was making a point that some things are impossible to prove, even your own birth on earth. But I guess some people didn't get that.
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NO

It's obvious that you are trying to DODGE the issues...

If you can't see this, try:
  1. removing your blinkers
  2. thinking
you have nothing to lose but your delusions
 
DOC said:
And joobz brought in a website where the second definition was servant. When a word has 2 definitions that means it has two definitions translators can choose from.
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Nonsense. Consider the word cleave. Is the reponsible translator free to choose any definition?
 
John Jones said:
Nonsense. Consider the word cleave. Is the reponsible translator free to choose any definition?
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Yes, if a word has two definitions and the translator believes the second definition is the most accurate representation of what the text is saying, he should choose the second definition. Many words have several definitions. Translators shouldn't limit themselves to always choosing the first definition of a word.
 
So, whatever you want to call them, it is still OK to beat them.


Paul

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So DOC.
Do you think it is okay to beat a servant who does not do what is expected of him/her?
 
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It doesn't matter what I think regarding this issue, only what Christ thinks. This thread is not about me.
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Okay. Do you think it is okay for Jebus to say that is morally okay to beat your "servants" if he/she did not do what was expected of them?
 
DOC said:
It doesn't matter what I think regarding this issue, only what Christ thinks. This thread is not about me.
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Seeing if Christ wasn't real, he didn't think. And seeing that he wasn't the so-called son of a so-called god, what about it. Is the beating of someone OK.

Paul

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The point is not whether the translations of doulos use servant or slave; the point is that Jesus condoned the beating of a human being. Is this moral?
 
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Okay. Do you think it is okay for Jebus to say that is morally okay to beat your "servants" if he/she did not do what was expected of them?
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When you ask a question like this please quote exactly what Christ said (not your interpretation) and what translation you are using. You did not quote what he said. And I will not answer your question unless you use the name Jesus or Christ. You might ask yourself why you feel uncomfortable using the name of a historical person.
 
I love how calling something a god, makes whatever it does OK. As if morals don’t apply to it and it can do anything it wants and can at the same time hold us to a higher order.

Paul

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Your Christ said it was OK to beat someone. Simple, now is that OK with you.

Paul

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DOC said:
When you ask a question like this please quote exactly what Christ said (not your interpretation) and what translation you are using. You did not quote what he said.
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So you're okay with Jebus saying
"47And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
48But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more"?

So you lied when you claimed you already answered this question?
Why are you lying DOC?
Why won't you answer this simple question DOC?
Why are you ashamed of what Jebus said?
And I will not answer your question unless you use the name Jesus or Christ. You might ask yourself why you feel uncomfortable using the name of a historical person.
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You did not put an asterix next the this Jebus fictional character. I'm using an appropriate translation via the LOLCatz Bable.

Who is this Jesus or Christ person you are talking about? All I know of is someone called Yeshuah/Yeshu ben Yosef.

Why are you uncomfortable using the actual name of your fictional character?
 
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Agatha said:
The point is not whether the translations of doulos use servant or slave; the point is that Jesus condoned the beating of a human being. Is this moral?
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It is if God chooses to punish those who sin in a similar manner to the servant who beat several men and woman like the servant did in Luke 12:47.

And like I said before receiving some lashes is probably more lenient than making a person spend several years in jail.. If you were to ask people who have to spend 4 years in jail if they would submit to 10 lashes on the back if they could walk free, I doubt anyone would not agree to do it.

Bottom line if you read the bible, there is a price to pay for any unforgiven sin. God, being perfect, is not flippant about sin.
 
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