Amanda Knox guilty - all because of a cartwheel

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Matthew Best said:
Right back atcha, chief. I didn't say you said there was any evidence for your opinion, I asked if you had any.

You don't. I got it.
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My opinion is that Amanda didn't murder Meredith, I get it you don't agree with me. My opinion is that I see very little evidence against Amanda, and very much against Raffaele.
 
Fulcanelli said:
No it doesn't and I'm glad you asked...it comes done to all of this: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5834900&postcount=7036

But no surprise to see you employing the old tactic of sophistry by trying to isolate a single element and claim it to be the whole argument...when in fact the the 'whole' evidence comprises of multiple elements which forms its strength (Of which the glass neatly lined up on the sill with none of the ground below while compelling, is only one part of the greater picture).
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You simply posted the judge's report. I know that you think the judge's report is correct. I obviously do not.

This report is not evidence. The report is the judge's interpretation of the evidence.

I actually did not isolate anything. I looked at the entire scene and broke down all of the elements and made an assessment.
 
It would be extremely rare for the written time to be incorrect and the memory be more accurate.
 
Bruce Fisher said:
You simply posted the judge's report. I know that you think the judge's report is correct. I obviously do not.

This report is not evidence. The report is the judge's interpretation of the evidence.

I actually did not isolate anything. I looked at the entire scene and broke down all of the elements and made an assessment.
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An unfair assessment with the goal of Amanda being innocent.

You haven't been able to explain away the lack of glass outside the window, nor the fact that nothing was stolen from Filomena's room. Tie that in with the lack of real evidence that Rudy was ever in Filomena's room...and you've simply ignored any bit of evidence that you just don't like. The same thing you do with the knife, the bra clasp, the shifting alibis...
 
Draca said:
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BobTheDonkey said:
An unfair assessment with the goal of Amanda being innocent.

You haven't been able to explain away the lack of glass outside the window, nor the fact that nothing was stolen from Filomena's room."
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That nothing was stolen supports that the burglary was interrupted.

It has the opposite affect on the staged breakin theory. If someone was going to stage a break in they would 'steal' something to make it look good
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Who knows, maybe he broke into the cottage just to use the bathroom, then Meredith came home - it certainly doesn't look like a robbery to me.
He ate a bad kabob, went to the boys house nearby, they weren't home, tried upstairs, they weren't home, broke in and used the washroom.
Regardless, he could have simply broke in thru the window, or Amanda and RS could have broke it - they reason I think RS did it has nothing to do with the broken window, its the fact the two doors were close and Meredith's locked. Rudy, who stepped in blood in Meredith's room, left tracks straight out the front door, he couldn't have locked that door, who else would of..... Amanda left print pointed right at Merediths door, but not inside, thats how the prints would have to face if they were locking the door, Rudy's don't do this.
 
Draca said:
BobTheDonkey said:
An unfair assessment with the goal of Amanda being innocent.

You haven't been able to explain away the lack of glass outside the window, nor the fact that nothing was stolen from Filomena's room.



That nothing was stolen supports that the burglary was interrupted.

It has the opposite affect on the staged breakin theory. If someone was going to stage a break in they would 'steal' something to make it look good.
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Ahh, but at what point did he make it to the bathroom then? I was under the impression that he was disturbed on the toilet...

Or he, what, didn't even have a chance to go through Filomena's room before he had to use the bathroom? In through the window, right to the toilet? I suppose that's possible...but only if we ignore all the issues regarding the faked break-in...
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Amazer said:
Draca said:
Draca said:
They did steal something... remember Meredith's credit cards, cash and phones?
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Actually Rudy took the credit cards, cash and phones. He removed the duvet off of the bed and covered Meredith. He placed the bloody knife on the bed leaving the imprint, he then went through Meredith's purse taking the credit cards, cash and phones. Then he walked out the front door leaving shoe prints, set in Meredith's blood.
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Bruce Fisher said:
Amazer said:
Draca said:
Actually Rudy took the credit cards, cash and phones. He removed the duvet off of the bed and covered Meredith. He placed the bloody knife on the bed leaving the imprint, he then went through Meredith's purse taking the credit cards, cash and phones. Then he walked out the front door leaving shoe prints, set in Meredith's blood.
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Right... that's why Amanda and Raffaele are convicted and in prison. That's also why we have been having this rather long discussion in this forum.
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Bruce Fisher said:
Actually Rudy took the credit cards, cash and phones. He removed the duvet off of the bed and covered Meredith. He placed the bloody knife on the bed leaving the imprint, he then went through Meredith's purse taking the credit cards, cash and phones. Then he walked out the front door leaving shoe prints, set in Meredith's blood.
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You seem awfully sure about all that for someone who doesn't actually have any evidence that Rudy did all that.

At most, we have evidence that Rudy moved Meredith's purse and that he left bloody footprints out the front door.

Who closed/locked Meredith's door? Why was none of Rudy's DNA, nor Meredith's blood, found on the phones? Where are the bloody shoeprints between Meredith's door and the entrance to the hallway?

Why was no glass found outside of the cottage? Why was no evidence of Rudy's presence found in Filomena's room? Why was Raffaele's DNA in the 2nd highest concentration of all the traces found on the bra clasp? How did Meredith's DNA arrive on the knife and if by contamination, why did Raffaele feel the need to write a fictional explanation (read: lie) for how it arrived there?
 
Amazer said:
Bruce Fisher said:
Amazer said:
Right... that's why Amanda and Raffaele are convicted and in prison. That's also why we have been having this rather long discussion in this forum.
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Do you see discussions like this and many other discussions about this case that are occurring elsewhere happening with other cases where people have already been convicted? Not many right? This is because this case was not handled correctly. many people know this and are speaking out.

Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito have been wrongly convicted.
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