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Merged Scenes From The War On Drugs

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More insanity from the front on the War On Drugs: here's a recently released video of a raid that took place in a private home in Columbia, MO in February 2010. A heavily armed SWAT team burst into a home where a seven year old child was present and shot the family's two dogs. The crime? They found a small amount of pot, enough for a misdemeanor charge. To add insult to injury, the trigger happy cops added a charge of "child endangerment".

When our politicians talk tough about waging war on our own citizens, this is the inevitable result. The video is NSFW.

http://reason.com/blog/2010/05/05/video-of-swat-raid-on-missouri

 
BenBurch said:
It is time to legalize drugs. Prohibition has corrupted every level of our government, and the drug trade is what is making our southern border a nightmare, not the poor SOBs who just want a job.
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As much as I am morally opposed to drug use, and even though I've never used them and have no desire to try them, I'm beginning to lean this way.

This should accomplish three things: Take away the profit motive from the private sector (no need to buy from the guys on the corner), collect taxes for all levels of government and ensure uniformity in manufacturing quality (providing the federal government is involved the manufacturing process.)

Michael
 
It takes some brass ones to barge into someones house, discharge submachine guns in the house, and then charge the occupants with child endangerment.

edit: wait, a corgi? I take that back. What kind of psychotic coward is threatened by a *********** corgi?
 
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Oh, according to the video description, the pit bull was caged. So they were afraid of a caged pit bull and a corgi.
 
Taarkin said:
Oh, according to the video description, the pit bull was caged. So they were afraid of a caged pit bull and a corgi.
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I can sort of understand being afraid of the caged pit pull. Pit bulls are very strong dogs, and one agitated by people breaking into its house might just manage to break out of a cage. But a corgi? What's it gonna do bite their ankles?
 
As much as I am morally opposed to drug use, and even though I've never used them and have no desire to try them, I'm beginning to lean this way.
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As am I, even though I have friends and acquaintances who are/were drug addicts and am as heavily opposed to it as anyone.
 
Pot raid in Columbia. Police kill a caged dog-Find a pipe-Streets safe now.

If you need another reason why pot should be legalized:

This video shows a search warrant served by the Columbia Mo. police department. The cops bust in this guys house in the middle of the night and shoot his two dogs (one a pit bull that was caged in the kitchen and the other a Corgi) with children in the home. it turns out that rather than a big time drug dealer, this guy had a small pipe with some resin in it, a grinder, and what the cops here call "a small amount of marijuana" (meaning less than a few grams).
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I have not watched the video personally and I don't think I will after reading the description. It is sad police resources were wasted and this dog was murdered for a bowl of weed. To top it off the guy was arrested for child endangerment. Seems that didn't happen until the cops arrived. What the hell is wrong with this country..

Here is a link to the article: (apparently I cannot post links yet so I guess search google if you want to read the article. DO NOT watch the video unless you are prepared to see a caged dog being killed)
 
Rigel2112 said:
If you need another reason why pot should be legalized:



I have not watched the video personally and I don't think I will after reading the description. It is sad police resources were wasted and this dog was murdered for a bowl of weed. To top it off the guy was arrested for child endangerment. Seems that didn't happen until the cops arrived. What the hell is wrong with this country..

Here is a link to the article: (apparently I cannot post links yet so I guess search google if you want to read the article. DO NOT watch the video unless you are prepared to see a caged dog being killed)
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I've seen the video. I did not see any actual shooting. It goes down like this: the SWAT guys go in through the front door (videographer is still outside). You hear dogs barking and yelping. As the videographer gets to the door you hear a shot and a dog that sounds like it's taken a bullet. A few seconds later, with the videographer still in the foyer, you hear four more shots (off camera) and no more barking.

Unless there's another video - and I didn't see any other cameras on the scene - there isn't anything graphic (it's still disturbing, but not in a visual way).
 
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Taarkin said:
It takes some brass ones to barge into someones house, discharge submachine guns in the house, and then charge the occupants with child endangerment.

edit: wait, a corgi? I take that back. What kind of psychotic coward is threatened by a *********** corgi?
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Shooting the dogs is SOP for no-knock raids.
 
MikeMangum said:
Shooting the dogs is SOP for no-knock raids.
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Caged ones? If so SOP is messed up.

A year or so ago police entered my fenced yard chasing a someone. I let my dogs run free in this area often. I am lucky they were not out (or even caged out there apparently) or they would have killed them probably. Why is it I was more afraid of what the cops were going to do back there then the guy they were chasing?

Are there no less then lethal methods of taking care of dogs during raids?

Thanks for merging my previous post mods I did not see this one before posting.
 
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Yes, yes it is.
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I am afraid several officers would be going to the hospital as my family and I train civil protection and police K'9s as well and always have several here!
Good luck shooting that k9 while he is attached to your arm!
 
This is just sickening. It brings back memories of having my own home searched by police a few years ago. Nothing this violent but violating nonetheless.

Its very similar to this story where the SWAT team burst in on the mayor and killed his two dogs. It was later revealed to be a mistaken delivery.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/30/AR2008073003299.html

And to think...there's some 50,000 no-knock raids per year in the US. There has to be a better way of executing a search warrant. Why can't police stake out the home until the occupants leave, have a cruiser pull them over and while they are detained search the now empty house? Wouldn't that be far safer for all involved.
 
And they wonder why people go berserk and run amok. I don't have any drugs anywhere, but if anyone shot my dogs for any reason, I'd be the lunatic driving a tank through the local cop-shop. It would send me right over the edge.

Just on the issue of decriminalizing or legalizing illicit drugs. They go on about how drugs are such a menace now, but you used to be able to buy them at the chemist. You could buy pain relievers which were morphine based and slimming tablets which were amphetamines or something like that. I don't understand why they go on about drugs being a modern problem. I'm sure there's always been a proportion of society who've looked for a crutch of some kind, whether alcohol or drugs. I suppose the problem(s) were more hidden when you could freely get whatever you wanted than now when you are breaking the law.
 
I hear they found a whole crate of beer in his kitchen.

Such an amount cannot possibly be for personal use.

Clearly they've nabbed a dealer here.

I say waterboarding until he reveals from which supermarket he got the stuff.

Won't someone think of the children!
 
It's stories like this that make me happy I live in weed friendly Massachusetts. Assuming you have under an ounce, the worst they can do is give you a ticket and most of the time they don't do that. I know several people who have been caught by cops outside of clubs or in a park smoking, and all that ever happened to them is the cops asked them to take it inside. I accidentally left a joint in my bag once when I went to Logan airport, it wasn't hidden at all, was right out in the open but I forgot about it. Security found it and called a cop over, and he just threw it away. He didn't even question me, and told me to enjoy the rest of my day.
 
I hear they found a whole crate of beer in his kitchen.

Such an amount cannot possibly be for personal use.

Clearly they've nabbed a dealer here.
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Alcohol, in other words. Arguably the most dangerous drug in circulation in the US (according to Penn and Teller's episode on 12-step programs, 1 out of every 13 adult males in the US has a drinking problem). In Norway, I believe 60% of all crimes are carried out under the influence of alcohol. It's also known to cause addictions and **** up your liver quite badly after prolonged use.

It also happens to be completely legal.

Boggles the mind.
 
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From Bill Maher:

"It is ridiculous that we do not distinguish between drug use and drug abuse. Why is drug policy determined by what the losers do? We don't determine driving policy based on the way Gary Busey drives. Yet we determine drug policy based on Gary Busey."


"Must everything in our society be for and about the children? What ever happened to PEOPLE? What about adults, you know, the veterans of childhood? Those of us who made it out alive. Why can't we just say that some things are for children, and some things are not? We ALREADY do this in society. Cars, fire comes to mind."

"Yes, it's true, weed does lead to other things. Like dancing, or eating raw cookie dough."


I also read an article years ago in Rolling Stone about a senator who had been there for the congressional hearings to illegalize ecstacy. He talked about how the senators were shown videos taken from underground raves that showed people using ecstacy. He describes how the person presenting the video states, "As you can see, the drug is really kicking in. The users are now dancing and giving eachother massages." The senator talks about how he was sitting in his chair rolling his eyes and thinking, "Dancing? Massages? Oh dear God, ANYTHING but that!"
 
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