So the BNP manifesto

How does it change is you look at England alone? Scotland in particular has a lot of land with very few people on it (see: Highland Clearances).

Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
I guess. Round here, they used to blame the Catholics (i.e. the Irish). Probably some still do. The rest just march down the road with orange sashes and flutes because they don't know any better.

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The BNP likes to use the term "christendom" so it's a bit hard for them to object to poles being somewhat christian.
 
Frank327 said:
Looked it up on wikipedia (what else :p), and found out to my surprise that luxembourg is less densely populated than Britain. Apparantly they've got enough rural land around the city for that. In europe (barring dependency states and city states), the Netherlands is #1, Belgium is #2 and Britain is #3.
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We've been beaten by Belgium? That humiliating.
 
Rolfe said:
How does it change is you look at England alone? Scotland in particular has a lot of land with very few people on it (see: Highland Clearances).

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The Netherlands still edge out england but at least Belgium falls behind. Scotland just beats out Côte d'Ivoire but has a lower population density than Honduras. Slightly above the Republic of Ireland though.
 
According to this article, England is by now more densely populated than the Netherlands, and the only more densely populated country is malta which doesn't count because it's so small :D. Still doesn't make the BNP manifesto correct of course.

Minor nitpick about the article: they said Holland, but Holland is only two provinces (north and south) which contain the most densely populated area of the Netherlands, so when they said Holland was now less densely populated, they were wrong.
 
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According to this article, England is by now more densely populated thaMinor nitpick about the article: they said Holland, but Holland is only two provinces (north and south) which contain the most densely populated area of the Netherlands, so when they said Holland was now less densely populated, they were wrong.
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Yes, when Dutch people complain about this common mistake I love reminding them that they frequently call the whole of the UK "England" and they're enjoying a "pot meet kettle" moment.
 
Yes, but certainly not the urban British accent. I doubt Griffin will be asking if 'you get me blad?' anytime soon.
 
Rolfe said:
That's what makes me realise how much of this is about volume. Nobody could possibly object to English people moving to Scotland. They're our closest cousins, they're very similar to us, what's not to like? But when almost every other voice you hear in the village shop is English, you start feeling a bit hunted.
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Trouble is that this is very much the sort of sentiment you hear from BNP supporters. "I don't mind Asians, Kumar is very similar to us, what's not to like? It's just that there's so many of them, you never hear an English accent any more; I feel like a stranger in my own country".

Why is it wrong for them to hold those views when the people they're complaining about are brown, but acceptable for Scots to hold those views when the people they're complaining about are English?
 
I don't think it's right or even acceptable any which way you slice it. I was saying I understood how these feelings can arise.

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Rolfe said:
I don't think it's right or even acceptable any which way you slice it. I was saying I understood how these feelings can arise.
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Well, fair enough and your last paragraph indicated that as well.
 
Rolfe said:
I don't think it's right or even acceptable any which way you slice it. I was saying I understood how these feelings can arise.

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Thing is though that the BNP pick up support in areas with milidy less cultural diversity than the falkland islands.
 
They've been trying to make themselves more electable since the days of Tyndall. Didn't help him that photographs of him in a full nazi uniform leaked into the public domain.

They're as racist as they ever were, but don't publicise it because they'd lose votes. Thankfully they were hammered in last weeks election.
 
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Thing is though that the BNP pick up support in areas with milidy less cultural diversity than the falkland islands.
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This isn't entirely true. Information Is Beautiful has a nice graphic analysing BNP support vs Minority population

I can't post links, so search "Drugs and the BNP" into the Guardian's website.
 
Mmm, I suppose what I was trying to say in my clumsy sort of way, that resentment towards incomers doesn't necessarily always equate to bigotry. If you define bigotry as ill-will towards a different group simply because they are different.

I'd differentiate between people who would welcome any foreigner as a neigbour, but only start getting twitchy when half the people in the neighbourhood were foreigners, and people who would spit on a single immigrant simply because he was foreign.

Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
I'd differentiate between people who would welcome any foreigner as a neigbour, but only start getting twitchy when half the people in the neighbourhood were foreigners, and people who would spit on a single immigrant simply because he was foreign.

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I would too, but they're both bigots.
 
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