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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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paximperium said:
Nice fish. Do you have one for Argument from Authority...something involving Godwin-ing a thread from a well known mustachio person from the 1940s?
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DOC said:
Give a specific post that I made and then explain specifically why you think it has a fallacy, and then I will respond to your specific explanation.
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As others have noted, you've converted the other one to a Red Herring Fallacy. Here's another one: (I have dozens of these.)
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And I guess the writer's also tailored the words of Christ. So these liars and deceivers (as you imply) were able to create the most moral and sublime teachings (at least according to Thomas Jefferson) the world has ever known.
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DOC, do you agree or disagree that this is an example of the Fallacy of Argument from Authority?
 
DOC said:
So according to you every poster in this thread would think Obama lost his mind seeing something that Hawking states is almost certain to exist??
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Your ability to miss/ignore a point continue to amaze me.
 
Any hint of when this evidence of why we know the n/t told the truth will be disclosed?
 
me too!

Toke said:
Your ability to miss/ignore a point continue to amaze me.
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DOC said that Barack Obama going on TV claiming to have seen an alien at Camp David would be persuasive (more or less).

Stephen Hawking suggested that it is a near-certainty that life exists elsewhere in the millions of galaxies in the universe. This life could be from simple bacteria to God-like creatures. The thing is that we don't know.

So yes, really, if Obama went on TV and said he saw something which probably exists millions of light years away, I would say he's nuts. Yes.

I'm Godsmacked. (not a typo)
 
DOC said:
Joobz stated he believed Christ condoned slavery (which I disagree with and have explained why in many posts).
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Dolous = bond servant = slave.
Facts support my argument.

DOC said:
I simply asked Joobz a question which he didn't answer -- he just said it doesn't matter.
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because it doesn't matter.

DOC said:
One has to wonder why he couldn't just say yes they were wrong if he really believed Christ condoned slavery.
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Becuase it doesn't matter. They are not involved with this conversation, are they?
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I wasn't appealing to anything, I just wanted joobz to be honest and state if he believed they were wrong to embrace Christianity. Why couldn't he just say they were wrong.
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It's completely irrelevant to the topic.

Jesus condoned the beating of Dolous (This is true according to the bible.)
You have two options here:
1.) This means Jesus condoned beating servants (a horrible, amoral behavior)
2.) This means Jesus condoned beating slaves (a horrible, amoral behavior)

In either case, The bible shows Jesus condoning the beating of another human being. He condoned the beating of a person for breaking a rule he did not know existed
 
DOC said:
Then why don't you repeat it and not a strawman.



You really hurt your credibility by saying I said things I didn't say. You (and others) have done this several times. And the more you (and others) do it the worse you look.
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I'm sorry but that's how I read what you said, too.

Perhaps you can clarify.
 
joobz said:
because it doesn't matter.


Becuase it doesn't matter. They are not involved with this conversation, are they?

It's completely irrelevant to the topic.
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It does have something to do with your issue of servant/slavery in the NT because I have to believe that deep down you don't really believe Jesus condoned slavery. Because if you really did you would have no problem saying Rev.Martin Luther King, the Rev. Jesse Jackson and Barack Obama are wrong to embrace something that condoned slavery.

In my opinion you are the one worried about "authority" by not saying anything negative about KIng and Obama because of who they are. If you were coldly analyzing this issue you would say they were wrong to embrace it because of your servant/slavery issue. But you won't or can't do that, and thus I as said, I really don't believe deep down you believe Christ was not against our concept of slavery.
 
DOC said:
It does have something to do with your issue of servant/slavery in the NT because I have to believe that deep down you don't really believe Jesus condoned slavery.
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Deep down, I don't believe there was a jesus. I do believe there were wandering apocalytic preachers that the Jesus story was based off of. But a Jesus, most likely not.

I also believe that everyone condoned slavery as it was such a common part of culture.

I also believe that anyone's opinions are secondary to the facts. That according to the bible, Jesus is shown as conding the beating of slaves.

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Because if you really did you would have no problem saying Rev.Martin Luther King, the Rev. Jesse Jackson and Barack Obama are wrong to embrace something that condoned slavery.
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I think everyone is wrong to embrace something that condone's slavery. Why would those three people make a difference?


DOC said:
In my opinion you are the one worried about "authority" by not saying anything negative about KIng and Obama because of who they are. If you were coldly analyzing this issue you would say they were wrong to embrace it because of your servant/slavery issue. But you won't or can't do that, and thus I as said, I really don't believe deep down you believe Christ was not against our concept of slavery.
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Nope.

ETA:My family are descents of slaves.
 
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Evidence, please?

DOC, just a reminder about the thread title. Unless you believe that Dr. King, President Obama and Stephen Hawking were around 1900 years ago, they are off topic.

PS - The bible verses about Jesus condoning slavery are posted throughout the thread. (Ephesians 6:5, 1 Timothy 6:1/2 and the especially egregious Luke 12:47/48) The posts, to coin a phrase, speak for themselves, and everyone can see them. That is the great thing about a forum like this. :)
 
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