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How powerful is human immune system?

Do you think the body can cure itself of incurable diseases?

  • yes

    Votes: 8 5.7%
  • no

    Votes: 133 94.3%

  • Total voters
    141
THIS IS SO EXCITING. FINALLY A CHANCE TO FORCE THE POWERS TO BE TO INVESTIGATE CURES.

NOT

There is nothing anyone of you can do to get anyone involved. Matter of fact if this thread does not get deleted for letting the cat out of the bag I would be amazed. This is the most involved I have ever been allowed to get and I can see why so many of you are threatened.

I can only hope that you might be right and it might take half the population to report me but rest assured it doesn't help your case much if you haven't seen me. If only I wasn't curing my clients and they reported me. Those cured seldom report. I had a few do it on my request.

You do realize that the man whose name graces this forum spent his whole life demolishing goofballs like you?

You're not unique, you're not special, you're just another in a long line of deluded, narcissistic science deniers who are constantly ground to dust by the relentless progress of reason.

If all your crap worked you would apply for the Million Dollar Challenge, prove your awesome powers to a massive audience, and end the days of begging for money on YouTube.
 
It's pretty obvious now. That valve has blown its last gasket. I don't even think it's about his magical healing anymore. I think he's just got some kind of neurosis going where he absolutely has to have attention. Maybe by begging to be reported, he hopes to have people visit him at his home. It's kind of sad, really...

Here are my guesses:

55% chance he is crazy and this thread accurately represents his ideas.
15% chance he's a troll trying to piss us off for his amusement.
10% chance he's violently opposed to True Cures and is doing his best to smear the idea with his kabuki nonsense.
10% chance he's just high.
10% chance he's into bestiality and is angry he has to go a human doctor.
 
Yeah, that's what I thought. How silly that I trust the people who know things!

"I don't know how it works, but it works," is just not acceptable in 2010...unless you're discussing quantum theory.

Or maybe you're using that Deepak Chopra quantum healing!!!

Trane,

So you are suggesting that explanations are more important than cures. So if the cure is above your or my comprehension it is to be avoided. Hmmmm, seems like medicine to me.

The greatest thing about True Cures is it cures. If you were sick and wanted a cure that is what would be most important to you. Being that you are not sick and are only interested in proving your mental prowess you are argumentative like the rest.

The second greatest thing about True Cure is it is untouchable and any attempt to shut it down will only fuel to my fire. Without the FDA and Idaho getting involved it will only take me longer.

The third greatest thing about True Cures is being right. Even though I do not know the exact how's and why's I know more than those with a dozen PhD's not because I understand so much but because I can provide what doctors and so called geniuses cannot. I can provide cures and guess what, if I were to cure you you wouldn't have any better luck explaining it than I do! :)

You guys keep this thread rolling and keep it from being banned and someone will pick up on it and explain it. I have an explanation from another forum which could provide some insight. Anyone want to hear it.
 
But the worst thing we have at our disposal is to take away your license to practice medicine. I'm not sure how we'd go about applying that if you don't have a license to start with...

I think this is a criminal issue (hence the involvement of the Attorney General) and an FDA issue. Has anyone reported him to the FDA?

Linda

Nevermind. I found the other thread.

Linda
 
“TC, if you can see into this explanation it may give you further insight as to why you are correct about being able to "cure" yourself. However, if it is too off topic for your likes then just let me know and I will remove it. Please do not take this as me telling anyone the way things are, it is just my educated experience and like everything else should always be subject to self scrutiny.
Human beings use all 5 senses to experience the physical world but that world is less than half of the "equation" of existence. Electromagnetic radiation is the energy of physical existence; vacuum energy is the energy of consciousness. Both exist simultaneously however physical beings can only use their senses to detect electromagnetic "radiation" (out flowing energy). The vacuum of space appears empty because we cannot sense vacuum energy. If we could then the vacuum of space would appear completely "full". Vacuum energy has a form and geometry and is best envisioned as the infinite division of 1. For example, all physical existence is mainly 99% space and the rest is vortextually spinning light. All vortex lead to SINGULARITY at the center, from there you cross a boundary into the vacuum energy or division of singularity (1).
This is where all of the energy of creation comes from. Every atom in the universe vortextually spins and has singularity at its core which is what connects everything in the universe. When singularity "radiates" energy it "steps" out of 1 and becomes 2 and 3 and 4 and so on to what you can now "sense" as the expanding universe. But 2 and 3 and 4, etc. are not "within" 1 they are thrust out of and separate from 1 and that is what gives all physical beings the "sense" of individuality and separation. This vacuum energy explains "insight" "imagination" "intuition" "emotion" "gravity", the strong and weak nuclear forces, wormholes, etc; all things that are experienced but not sensed or seen.
Everything in physical existence has a whole other aspect to its existence that it cannot "sense" which is why it feels cut off from the reality it experiences. But everything in existence also exhibits "radiation" and "vacuum" energy simultaneously. Physical existence is simply consciousness "experiencing" or "looking" at itself as an "inverse" of its actual reality which is vacuum. Zen: in the "vacuum" the "vacuum" is not "vacuum". That is why you have a "mind" (which is not the physical interface called the brain, the brain is the CPU that coordinates all physical functions, your mind experiences physical reality through the point of singularity in every atom of your body, not exclusively through your brain) and this mind you have has no physical properties or limitations because it is "vacuum" energy, not physical electromagnetic energy.
That is why you have and use your mind for everything but cannot easily explain what it is. You cannot directly sense it with physical senses and you cannot directly explain it with physical concepts, it is not physical, it is vacuum, and therefore if you want to know where your "mind" and the "spirit" world are, look around at empty space that permeates all of the universe even micro millimeters in front of you and throughout you for that matter, it permeates everything and our physical bodies are its inverse. Every prophet and spiritual sage has instructed man that the kingdom of heaven is "within". Within what? Within the "atom", beyond singularity! Meditation stills the electromagnetic existence so that the subtle but infinitely expansive and powerful vacuum energy can be experienced and tapped. Mind and matter interface at singularity....
Incidentally, this is why no one can "see" God. This is also why science bangs its head against the wall when trying to formulate a "theory of everything". Science can only measure the effects of things as electromagnetic radiation or physicality; it does not recognize or account for the "vacuum energy observer" (at least officially). Up until very recently they treated all matter as "dead" or in other words, science is aware of the issue of the "observer" and the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, but will not know the true nature of why matter and even fundamentally, the electron, behaves the way it does until it acknowledges and studies the "vacuum".
This is the "forgotten knowledge" often whispered about. the "golden age" predicted to be occurring soon by just about everyone it seems, is not alien invasion, it is not Armageddon, it is not global catastrophe, it is not alien disclosure, that leads to everything looking golden, or everyone just being nice, or everyone having an unlimited supply of gold. The prediction was quite literal, the golden age is just that, the age of the golden ratio, phi, the structure and geometry of vacuum energy and the paradigm shift in life that will occur when it is acknowledged, studied, and utilized..... (very soon) there will be an admission/disclosure/recognition by the worlds governments that vacuum energy is not only the truth and behind all existence but that they have actually known and tapped it for some time and it has been deliberately held from the consciousness of the general population because when they admit this it will bring about a paradigm shift in the consciousness and reality of every individual. We will have to completely reformulate our very way of life and it is going to infinitely empower every individual and ruin current monopolies that rely on the stress of the individual feeling separate and the incorrect notion that energy is limited, wasted, and has to be supplied and paid for.
The truth was deliberately misconstrued, "Jesus" isn't going to come to you, you will be able to go to "him".
Hey TC, glad I could help. Sorry we got off on the wrong foot but it is great to see things turn out good. :-) It was interesting to hear you talk about pineal parasites. I did not know it was possible but I will look into it and this is why it is so important. [This was his response to my claim that almost every pineal gland in the world is parasitic.]
The Pineal gland is paramount to our remembering the "golden knowledge" that will return us to "reality". The reason has to do with the geometry of the "vacuum" energy. Which I will not fully explain here but in short happens to be fundamentally the tetrahedron. Everything else formed is a composite of multiple tetrahedrons which forms all other sacred geometrical shapes. The primary geometry of electromagnetic radiation is the sphere, which is why it is predominantly used in physical reality; the primary geometry of the vacuum is the tetrahedron.
The pineal gland, as you can easily verify on the web, has rods and cones just like the physical eye, however it is not exposed to physical reality, it is shielded from it in the center of your brain, it is given the largest supply of blood of any organ in your body, and it houses a sac of - water -. Water's chemical composition is H2O, duh, but water's geometric shape is..... tetrahedral..... the pineal is the gland we were supplied to "sense" vacuum energy, our spiritual selves..... water, because of its geometry, has the ability to invert between realities and the pineal gland can use it as a physical catalyst to sense and interact with the vacuum.
Every spiritual tradition uses, alludes to, or has hidden symbolism for the pineal gland. It is the single eye, the eye of "god", the "gateway", etc, etc. It allows your consciousness, when properly exercised, to cross the barrier of singularity.
For Christians, in the beginning of the bible when the true nature and name of God is mentioned, God is called tetragrammatron - tetra for gods form *tetrahedral* and grammatron for gods nature or perceived force in physical reality *gravity*. If the Christian bible is correct and we were created in "Gods" image then we would exhibit that trait in our own bodies..... and we do at the center and as the structure of every atom in our bodies and throughout physical space for that matter. Is it any coincidence that "Adam" (atom) was the first physical creation of "god". Eve (electron) or the "rib" of atom was created to allow physical procreation (chemical bonding) in order to experience physicality (eating the apple of knowledge, awareness of physicality, "thrust" out of the garden of Eden (vacuum energy beyond singularity) (2,3,4,5 etc all the way to astounding numbers like 1 x 10^45 etc.... )
The pineal is in trouble due to atrophy, chemical poisoning through halide fluoridation of our water supply, and general dismissal or lack of acknowledgment and cultivation through society.
I am way off topic now so I will apologize and quit. Thanks again for your knowledge as well.”
 
Ladies and gentlemen meet Rolfe!

He came out and unknowingly confirmed everything I said about farmer and ranchers and vaccinating livestock and then once he realized he confirmed my points the attacks begin.

ROLFE the only other person in a position to cure any one of you from and so-call incurable diseases is backing up.

Fact is, Rolfe has access to medicine that can cure any diseases. The problem is he cannot legally cure you with the medications any more than an MD can legally cure you.

Make no mistake, Rolfe can keep you every bit as healthy as ranchers and farmers keep their cows. Rolfe has never heard of a cow having diabetes because ROLFE and rancher supply stores supply ranchers with the proper vaccination against diabetes and if Rolfe wasn't so chicken **** (keeping with the farmer motif) he could cure a person of diabetes and HE KNOWS IT.

So here we are, two people who can cure you of incurable disease. One who relies on the natural immune system and one who could rely on medicine if they were not afraid to cure people.

Either way the truth is being revealed.

Now Rolfe do you want to try to weasel out of that one and explain to us how you can vaccinate cattle keeping them diabetes and primarily disease free and you how the medicine will not work on humans?


Cattle just don't get diabetes. Just like you don't get acetonaemia. Does your doctor have a magic vaccine to stop you getting acetonaemia? No. You're not a cow. You just don't get it.

In more ways than one I fear.

Nobody supplies any farmers with anything to prevent cattle getting diabetes.

Rolfe.
 
Here are my guesses:

55% chance he is crazy and this thread accurately represents his ideas.
15% chance he's a troll trying to piss us off for his amusement.
10% chance he's violently opposed to True Cures and is doing his best to smear the idea with his kabuki nonsense.
10% chance he's just high.
10% chance he's into bestiality and is angry he has to go a human doctor.

This.

And I appreciate that you made sure your guesses added up to 100%. :)

ETA: Under that first category, it may be worthwhile to subdivide it into crazy/mentally ill and crazy/stupid ideas?

Linda
 
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You guys keep this thread rolling and keep it from being banned and someone will pick up on it and explain it. I have an explanation from another forum which could provide some insight. Anyone want to hear it.

This is just overwhelming narcissism in action. You really think you're saying something important enough to get banned.

Now it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy: in order to satisfy that delusional narcissism, he will have to violate one of the rules flagrantly enough to get banned. He will then interpret that ban as being imposed due to the radical, frighteningly powerful nature of his message, rather than the specific violation.

We are watching a mind confronted with contradictory evidence alter auxiliary hypotheses to maintain a core belief.

It's sort of fascinating. A petri dish of psychological disorders...
 
Looks like ShareCures decided to just cut and paste random website garbage. I think he said he's quitting as well. Can we lock this thread and let it die, now?
 
By the war Rolfe being that you are a girl and not a farmer or rancher I think it is important that you know I can go to D&B 6 miles from me and buy all the medicine I need to keep livestock disease free.

I don't know how you city girls do it but here in Idaho and Oregon we pretty much do ourselves. When it comes to cures, I pretty much do that my self as well.

I'll bet my rancher clients know more about curing livestock than you and your city cronies. No disrespect but you might wish to stick with cats because at least with them you can dope them up with insulin even though you could cure them.

You didn't realize what you were getting into did you? :)


What makes you think every female is a city person? I told you. I'm 56 years old and I'm a vet and I work with livestock (that's FARM ANIMALS), and I teach agricultural students how to look after their animals properly. I live in the country.

Using the same basic pharmaceuticals that are used in human medicine, and where these are prescription only for human use they are also prescription only for animal use. If you decide only to use the stuff you can buy in an agricultural merchant's shop, you'll have some big disease problems.

Stick with cats? Patronising and sexist as well as ignorant, are you?

Rolfe.
 
“TC, if you can see into this explanation it may give you further insight as to why you are correct about being able to "cure" yourself. However, if it is too off topic for your likes then just let me know and I will remove it. Please do not take this as me telling anyone the way things are, it is just my educated experience and like everything else should always be subject to self scrutiny.
Human beings use all 5 senses to experience the physical world but that world is less than half of the "equation" of existence. Electromagnetic radiation is the energy of physical existence; vacuum energy is the energy of consciousness. Both exist simultaneously however physical beings can only use their senses to detect electromagnetic "radiation" (out flowing energy). The vacuum of space appears empty because we cannot sense vacuum energy. If we could then the vacuum of space would appear completely "full". Vacuum energy has a form and geometry and is best envisioned as the infinite division of 1. For example, all physical existence is mainly 99% space and the rest is vortextually spinning light. All vortex lead to SINGULARITY at the center, from there you cross a boundary into the vacuum energy or division of singularity (1).
This is where all of the energy of creation comes from. Every atom in the universe vortextually spins and has singularity at its core which is what connects everything in the universe. When singularity "radiates" energy it "steps" out of 1 and becomes 2 and 3 and 4 and so on to what you can now "sense" as the expanding universe. But 2 and 3 and 4, etc. are not "within" 1 they are thrust out of and separate from 1 and that is what gives all physical beings the "sense" of individuality and separation. This vacuum energy explains "insight" "imagination" "intuition" "emotion" "gravity", the strong and weak nuclear forces, wormholes, etc; all things that are experienced but not sensed or seen.
Everything in physical existence has a whole other aspect to its existence that it cannot "sense" which is why it feels cut off from the reality it experiences. But everything in existence also exhibits "radiation" and "vacuum" energy simultaneously. Physical existence is simply consciousness "experiencing" or "looking" at itself as an "inverse" of its actual reality which is vacuum. Zen: in the "vacuum" the "vacuum" is not "vacuum". That is why you have a "mind" (which is not the physical interface called the brain, the brain is the CPU that coordinates all physical functions, your mind experiences physical reality through the point of singularity in every atom of your body, not exclusively through your brain) and this mind you have has no physical properties or limitations because it is "vacuum" energy, not physical electromagnetic energy.
That is why you have and use your mind for everything but cannot easily explain what it is. You cannot directly sense it with physical senses and you cannot directly explain it with physical concepts, it is not physical, it is vacuum, and therefore if you want to know where your "mind" and the "spirit" world are, look around at empty space that permeates all of the universe even micro millimeters in front of you and throughout you for that matter, it permeates everything and our physical bodies are its inverse. Every prophet and spiritual sage has instructed man that the kingdom of heaven is "within". Within what? Within the "atom", beyond singularity! Meditation stills the electromagnetic existence so that the subtle but infinitely expansive and powerful vacuum energy can be experienced and tapped. Mind and matter interface at singularity....
Incidentally, this is why no one can "see" God. This is also why science bangs its head against the wall when trying to formulate a "theory of everything". Science can only measure the effects of things as electromagnetic radiation or physicality; it does not recognize or account for the "vacuum energy observer" (at least officially). Up until very recently they treated all matter as "dead" or in other words, science is aware of the issue of the "observer" and the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, but will not know the true nature of why matter and even fundamentally, the electron, behaves the way it does until it acknowledges and studies the "vacuum".
This is the "forgotten knowledge" often whispered about. the "golden age" predicted to be occurring soon by just about everyone it seems, is not alien invasion, it is not Armageddon, it is not global catastrophe, it is not alien disclosure, that leads to everything looking golden, or everyone just being nice, or everyone having an unlimited supply of gold. The prediction was quite literal, the golden age is just that, the age of the golden ratio, phi, the structure and geometry of vacuum energy and the paradigm shift in life that will occur when it is acknowledged, studied, and utilized..... (very soon) there will be an admission/disclosure/recognition by the worlds governments that vacuum energy is not only the truth and behind all existence but that they have actually known and tapped it for some time and it has been deliberately held from the consciousness of the general population because when they admit this it will bring about a paradigm shift in the consciousness and reality of every individual. We will have to completely reformulate our very way of life and it is going to infinitely empower every individual and ruin current monopolies that rely on the stress of the individual feeling separate and the incorrect notion that energy is limited, wasted, and has to be supplied and paid for.
The truth was deliberately misconstrued, "Jesus" isn't going to come to you, you will be able to go to "him".
Hey TC, glad I could help. Sorry we got off on the wrong foot but it is great to see things turn out good. :-) It was interesting to hear you talk about pineal parasites. I did not know it was possible but I will look into it and this is why it is so important. [This was his response to my claim that almost every pineal gland in the world is parasitic.]
The Pineal gland is paramount to our remembering the "golden knowledge" that will return us to "reality". The reason has to do with the geometry of the "vacuum" energy. Which I will not fully explain here but in short happens to be fundamentally the tetrahedron. Everything else formed is a composite of multiple tetrahedrons which forms all other sacred geometrical shapes. The primary geometry of electromagnetic radiation is the sphere, which is why it is predominantly used in physical reality; the primary geometry of the vacuum is the tetrahedron.
The pineal gland, as you can easily verify on the web, has rods and cones just like the physical eye, however it is not exposed to physical reality, it is shielded from it in the center of your brain, it is given the largest supply of blood of any organ in your body, and it houses a sac of - water -. Water's chemical composition is H2O, duh, but water's geometric shape is..... tetrahedral..... the pineal is the gland we were supplied to "sense" vacuum energy, our spiritual selves..... water, because of its geometry, has the ability to invert between realities and the pineal gland can use it as a physical catalyst to sense and interact with the vacuum.
Every spiritual tradition uses, alludes to, or has hidden symbolism for the pineal gland. It is the single eye, the eye of "god", the "gateway", etc, etc. It allows your consciousness, when properly exercised, to cross the barrier of singularity.
For Christians, in the beginning of the bible when the true nature and name of God is mentioned, God is called tetragrammatron - tetra for gods form *tetrahedral* and grammatron for gods nature or perceived force in physical reality *gravity*. If the Christian bible is correct and we were created in "Gods" image then we would exhibit that trait in our own bodies..... and we do at the center and as the structure of every atom in our bodies and throughout physical space for that matter. Is it any coincidence that "Adam" (atom) was the first physical creation of "god". Eve (electron) or the "rib" of atom was created to allow physical procreation (chemical bonding) in order to experience physicality (eating the apple of knowledge, awareness of physicality, "thrust" out of the garden of Eden (vacuum energy beyond singularity) (2,3,4,5 etc all the way to astounding numbers like 1 x 10^45 etc.... )
The pineal is in trouble due to atrophy, chemical poisoning through halide fluoridation of our water supply, and general dismissal or lack of acknowledgment and cultivation through society.
I am way off topic now so I will apologize and quit. Thanks again for your knowledge as well.”

You, sir, are a loon. And I can see now why you are so turned off on medicine. There's no medicine on Earth that can cure that kind of crazy. I feel sorry for you. :(
 
Cattle just don't get diabetes. Just like you don't get acetonaemia. Does your doctor have a magic vaccine to stop you getting acetonaemia? No. You're not a cow. You just don't get it.

In more ways than one I fear.

Nobody supplies any farmers with anything to prevent cattle getting diabetes.

Rolfe.

Right. That is where you and medicine is wrong. Diabetes is a pathogenic disease and the vaccinations for cattle though created to reach specific pathogens will reach other pathogens. Of course that isn't the case with cattle and diabetes. The medicine may not be labeled to prevent diabetes but rest assured it YOU personally treated cattle the same as you treat horsed or house pets THEY WILL GET DIABETES.

That is why cattle do not get diabetes. They are vaccinated against it.
 
Cattle just don't get diabetes. Just like you don't get acetonaemia. Does your doctor have a magic vaccine to stop you getting acetonaemia? No. You're not a cow. You just don't get it.

In more ways than one I fear.

Nobody supplies any farmers with anything to prevent cattle getting diabetes.

Rolfe.

Now there's an excellent marketing opportunity for me:

"I can sell you something which 100% guarantees you will never get acetonaemia."

I probably don't even have to bother finding out what it is.

Linda
 
Right. That is where you and medicine is wrong. Diabetes is a pathogenic disease and the vaccinations for cattle though created to reach specific pathogens will reach other pathogens. Of course that isn't the case with cattle and diabetes. The medicine may not be labeled to prevent diabetes but rest assured it YOU personally treated cattle the same as you treat horsed or house pets THEY WILL GET DIABETES.

That is why cattle do not get diabetes. They are vaccinated against it.

Will get diabetes, will not get diabetes, will get diabetes. Is that a correct summarization of your otherwise incoherent rant?
 
Isn't that a testable hypothesis? Get a cow and give it diabetes. Once you've managed that, get back to us.
 
What makes you think every female is a city person? I told you. I'm 56 years old and I'm a vet and I work with livestock (that's FARM ANIMALS), and I teach agricultural students how to look after their animals properly. I live in the country.

Using the same basic pharmaceuticals that are used in human medicine, and where these are prescription only for human use they are also prescription only for animal use. If you decide only to use the stuff you can buy in an agricultural merchant's shop, you'll have some big disease problems.

Stick with cats? Patronising and sexist as well as ignorant, are you?

Rolfe.

Wrong, you teach people how to look after animals in a way that it benefits you and veterinarian medicine and you are more than likely completely unaware of it.

As far as using the products from ranch supply stores only, maybe you are right and occasionally some new pathogen enters a heard but it is not unusual for a rancher or farmer to go years without veterinarian support.

My point is still accurate though. Idaho and Oregon ranchers, not horsemen rarely need vets. Also the best of them can keep their dogs disease free with the same livestock medicine and YOU KNOW it.

I'm am well aware that all this is potentially harmful to you and your business but you need to start warming up to it.

I'm not the original person to figure it all out I'm just the first person who is unwilling to corrupt it and turn it into a medicine. :) I would just as soon people know the truth.
 
Originally Posted by Sledge View Post
Isn't that a testable hypothesis? Get a cow and give it diabetes. Once you've managed that, get back to us.

That seems testable to me, and would be much easier than all this flying around the country, spending two weeks trying to convince skeptics one at a time.

I agree but for me to give a cow diabetes would be exposing the cause of diabetes and that cannot be revealed and what medicine is protecting in the first place.

You see guys, diabetes is suppose to be too complicated for you all to understand. When in reality it is nothing but a little itty bitty pathogen that cattle vaccination eliminates. But I'm up for it if you can find someone willing to let the cat out of the bag in regards to diabetes. I'm game!
 

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