Amanda Knox guilty - all because of a cartwheel

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Bruce Fisher said:
That is what burglars do. They find out information about future break-ins. Rudy would have possibly talked with the guys downstairs, he would have asked questions to see where people were going to be.
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Wasn't there something in the report about the guys downstairs asking Meredith to water the marijuana plants while they were away?
 
Bruce Fisher said:
Do you honestly believe that 99.5% of the information about the case is a big secret?
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Well if it's in your possession Bruce, apparently it is..we keep asking for X or Y and not getting it.
 
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capealadin said:
Bruce: Your silence on these questions speak volumes. Here's an easier one for you. In Amanda' words to her mother : "I cannot lie, I was There". Hmmm?
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Amanda was speaking about the fact that she was at Raffaele's.

You are bringing up all of the old refuted Guilter talking points. I thought we moved on from that long ago.
 
Bruce Fisher said:
Amanda was speaking about the fact that she was at Raffaele's.

You are bringing up all of the old refuted Guilter talking points. I thought we moved on from that long ago.
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Over 60 recorded phone calls and the police were inable to find anything incriminating about Amanda Knox.

If she had anything to do with the murder, she surely would have said something to someone during all of those secretly recorded calls.
 
Shuttit said:
Steffanoni testified for two days. How much of what she said do we have? The case file is 10's of thousands of pages, how many pages of the case file do we have?
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Well, here is the good news Shuttit. The Massei Report incorporates a great deal of what she said, running into many pages. Some is hard to follow (very techy) but a great deal is very illuminating and there's a huge amount there we didn't get in the press reports. So, when it's published you'll be able to read all that :)
 
Fulcanelli said:
Well, here is the good news Shuttit. The Massei Report incorporates a great deal of what she said, running into many pages. Some is hard to follow (very techy) but a great deal is very illuminating and there's a huge amount there we didn't get in the press reports. So, when it's published you'll be able to read all that :)
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Hey, how come you get to talk about information that isn't available yet? No Fair! You are breaking the rules. You need a 3 minute time out.
 
Bruce Fisher said:
Over 60 recorded phone calls and the police were inable to find anything incriminating about Amanda Knox.

If she had anything to do with the murder, she surely would have said something to someone during all of those secretly recorded calls.
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So where was Amanda on the night of the murder?
 
Why would that have been a problem in not wanting to lie about it? Amanda had discussed Raff being her boyfriend. Or is it now the VIRGIN AMANDA? Mom would be horrified that Amanda was at Raff's place. It is your inability to not being able to cede one point, that makes your credibility shot. Still no answer about Raff, eh?
 
Bruce Fisher said:
That is what burglars do. They find out information about future break-ins. Rudy would have possibly talked with the guys downstairs, he would have asked questions to see where people were going to be.
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That is about as daft as saying only a woman would cover a body because of compassion.
 
Charlie Wilkes said:
There was too much publicity. Acquitting Knox and Sollecito would have been tantamount to an admission that the criminal justice system in Perugia screwed up on this case. It's not just Mignini who would have looked bad. The police would have looked bad, and Micheli and Matteini would have looked bad. Massei works with those people. They're all part of a local system.
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Oh no, not the 'saving face' rubbish again. The only people I see desperate to save face are all the FOAKers who have invested so much time and energy into arguing her innocence, only to have been shown up as complete suckers by the evidence. You guys just project onto the ILE.
 
Dan O. said:
That link was generic for those that have never bothered to look.

It's uncertain if there was actually a change or if Amanda was just looking from a different angle. It's also possible for the pipes to hammer from quickly shutting off one valve causing the valve in the other toilet to open briefly. This is a problem in older houses that is easily corrected by installing an expansion tank. [note to guilters: I am not saying that there was any evidence that hammering was a problem in the cottage]
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I thought it was a shelf toilet. is that not correct?
 
Brice Fisher said:
I love how you jump on one item. Everyone has gone insane because I mentioned that a burglar might wear gloves.

Rudy was a burglar. Rudy was a thief. Rudy fit the profile. We can disagree on that point for now. You will be proven wrong in the near future.
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You need to back that up Bruce. Do you have anything beyond mere assertion? What a strange burglar with no criminal record.

Bruce Fisher said:
If Rudy cased the cottage like many burglars do, he would have known that certain people were not going to be home that night.
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How would he have known? Is he clairvoyant? Could he read minds? Was the information beamed down to him from the mother ship? How could he possibly know exactly who was going to be where and when? Is there any evidence for this 'casing out'?

Also, casing out for what? What was the prize for such an investment of time, energy and risk? Was a rare world famous priceless diamond stashed in the cottage that we don't know about? Lost Nazi gold? A missing Rembrandt?
 
Fulcanelli said:
You need to back that up Bruce. Do you have anything beyond mere assertion? What a strange burglar with no criminal record.



How would he have known? Is he clairvoyant? Could he read minds? Was the information beamed down to him from the mother ship? How could he possibly know exactly who was going to be where and when? Is there any evidence for this 'casing out'?

Also, casing out for what? What was the prize for such an investment of time, energy and risk? Was a rare world famous priceless diamond stashed in the cottage that we don't know about? Lost Nazi gold? A missing Rembrandt?
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It is rather curious to imagine that Guede would know where everyone was when Amanda didn't. I wonder who he got the information from
 
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