Was Dick Oliver confused about what he heard on 9/11

[DGM]

Even PLANE SPOTTING, true believers in the common storyline should have called you to task for the insipid, weak nature of the above comment.

Do better next time.

sheesh

Why? he's right. The WTC PATH station was in fact underground.

 

[jammonius]

Jim Friedl?

Is'nt he the bozo who miraculously saw both hits on both towers, got onto two network teevee spots and who described exactly the mechanism of destruction that it took NIST 4 years and $16million to find a way, through obfuscation and a lot of fake science to lay a claim to, such that they could call it "probable"; i.e., "collapse due to structural failure"?

I'm surprised plane spotters and Congress haven't built a statue of him and issued him the Medal of Freedom, and demanded the money back from SAIC and ARA, NIST's main contractors, to boot. What a waste. All they had to do was replay Jim Friedl, and case closed.

I also think he is not nearly as reliable as are the 4 witnesses.

By the way, here we are 200 posts in and there are literally and figuratively more NO PLANE witnesses being discussed than there are PLANE SPOTTERS.

At most you have 5, counting Pfeifer and Walsh. Put those up against the 4 witnesses + David handschuh, + Stephen Gregory + Stephen King + jr343 + Chief Ganci + Dick Oliver, for starters.

 

[Oystein]

Jim Friedl?

Is'dt he the bozo

How objective you are today!

who miraculously

How objective you are today!

saw both hits on both towers, got onto two network teevee spots and who described exactly the mechanism of destruction that it took NIST 4 years and $16million to claim; i.e., "collapse due to structural failure"?

How objective you are today!

I'm surprised plane spotters and Congress haven't built a statue of him and issued him the Medal of Freedom, respectively.

How objective you are today!

I also think he is not nearly as reliable as are the 4 witnesses.

...

It truly saddens me that you have left the enlightened and noble path of objectivity...

 

[jammonius]

Hey Posters and Lurkers,

Our Lady from the Path Train was apparently such an effective witness that right after her, the feed from Dick Oliver was LOST and our window on 9/11 reality was closed. After that, we got the set piece feed and Rosa Cardona Rivera, if you get my drift.

However, before we lost Dick Oliver for good, we did get one additional clinching piece of information.

The bus seen in the back of Our Lady PT is clearly and loudly heard. Not as loud, mind you, as when the camera was on the curb next to two buses, but loud enough to know that the buses remain the leading candidate for the sound heard in the 1:16 video.

Plus, the noise of the traffic was mentioned in various places in the second Dick Oliver video by both Oliver and Ryan. Finally, Dick Oliver's description of what he heard that he tried, at one time or another, to match to a plane, but which he ended up saying, in substance, was inconclusive to him, clearly did not match the sound heard. Oliver described in one instance a wishhh, in another a screech and in a third a wail.

Finally, at the 7:15 mark of the second video, as seen right behind Our Lady, we hear the same sound again as heard in the 1:16 video.

Give up posters. It's not conclusive, you can still "believe" in the common storyline as it is "postulated" if you want to.

But, sooner or later, reality is likely to begin to invade your illusion.

Behold, the bus!

 

[sylvan8798]

Jim Friedl?

Is'dt he the bozo who miraculously saw both hits on both towers, got onto two network teevee spots and who described exactly the mechanism of destruction that it took NIST 4 years and $16million to claim; i.e., "collapse due to structural failure"?

I'm surprised plane spotters and Congress haven't built a statue of him and issued him the Medal of Freedom, respectively.

I also think he is not nearly as reliable as are the 4 witnesses.

By the way, here we are 200 posts in and there are literally and figuratively more NO PLANE witnesses being discussed than there are PLANE SPOTTERS.

At most you have 5, counting Pfeifer and Walsh. Put those up against the 4 witnesses + David handschuh, + Stephen Gregory + Stephen King + jr343 + Chief Ganci + Dick Oliver, for starters.

So easy to dismiss the people who contradict your nutty claims as liars and bozos. So difficult to convince anyone here to do likewise.

 

[jammonius]

How objective you are today!



How objective you are today!



How objective you are today!



How objective you are today!




It truly saddens me that you have left the enlightened and noble path of objectivity...

Give up Oystein. Jim Friedl is a well known character, or should I say, caricature, in 9/11 world. He is described as "a BOZO" in and by several leading 9/11 Truth publications, including, by way of nonexhaustive example, either Loose Change or 9/11 Mysteries, or both. As you may know, those two documentaries, though flawed, contain a lot of very valuable research and were exceedingly influential in getting a large percentage of people all over the world to wake up.

Jim Friedl is, then, a bozo and is a part of the 9/11 psyop, according to many. His story does not hold up under scrutiny and he is, indeed, yet another who should be included with Sean Murtagh and Rosa Cardona Rivera. Fake and phoney witnesses, orchestrated by and for the psyop.

 

[Bell]

Hey Posters and Lurkers,

Wonder how Jammonius explains the Naudet video (where we can also HEAR the jet, even though no busses or subway trains are nearby), the video where the firefighters look up at the sky and Jules pans and zooms his camera towards AA11 and the WTC?

Wonder how Jammonius explains why chief Pfeifer called in the first report, and reported a plane hit the Trade Center? Wonder how Jammonius explains why chief Pfeifer did not stop his brother from going up in WTC1?

Me too!

 

[twinstead]

Jammonius, now you're just a caricature. It has ceased being fun

 

[sylvan8798]

Add a hearing check to the list of medical services jammonius is in need of. Hopefully he has good health insurance

 

[Oystein]

...several leading 9/11 Truth publications, including, by way of nonexhaustive example, either Loose Change or 9/11 Mysteries, or both. As you may know, those two documentaries, though flawed, contain a lot of very valuable research and were exceedingly influential in getting a large percentage of people all over the world to wake up.

Jim Friedl is, then, a bozo and is a part of the 9/11 psyop, according to many. His story does not hold up under scrutiny and he is, indeed, yet another who should be included with Sean Murtagh and Rosa Cardona Rivera. Fake and phoney witnesses, orchestrated by and for the psyop.

Your implicating innocent people in mass murder is disgusting and nearly makes me puke.

The publications you mention are entirely void of research and packed to brim with lies upon lies upon lies.

You are easily the most despicable person I have ever debated.



ETA: EVER!

 

[sylvan8798]

Hey Posters and Lurkers,

Wonder how Jammonius explains the Naudet video (where we can also HEAR the jet, even though no busses or subway trains are nearby), the video where the firefighters look up at the sky and Jules pans and zooms his camera towards AA11 and the WTC?

Anything which isn't otherwise explainable was part of the psyop. That video was all staged beforehand. They were just acting their parts.

 

[jammonius]

Add a hearing check to the list of medical services jammonius is in need of. Hopefully he has good health insurance

The sound at about the 7:15 mark of the second Dick Oliver video matches the sound heard in the 1:16 video at the 0:18 -0:28 segment, up to the squeak sound in that first video.

Moreover, at about the 7:28 mark of the second Dick Oliver video, a very important development occurred:

The Dick Oliver feed was lost or cut; and, small wonder. The Dick Oliver video was giving us the reality of 9/11 and not the psyop.

One wonders whether Dick Oliver and David Stollick kept on recording and caught the second explosion?

If so, more 9/11 truth might exist. Certainly, Jim Ryan knew that the Dick Oliver picture was the better of the two he apparently had access to. The Dick Oliver feed allowed Jim Ryan to be among the early NO PLANERS. He said:

"...If that's the case, where's the plane, I would ask? I don't see it in that live picture..."

Well, JIM RYAN, unfortunately, we were all prevented from seeing THAT PICTURE soon afterwards.

When the picture from Dick Oliver was lost, we lost a lot, posters and lurkers.

 

[jammonius]

Your implicating innocent people in mass murder is disgusting and nearly makes me puke.

The publications you mention are entirely void of research and packed to brim with lies upon lies upon lies.

You are easily the most despicable person I have ever debated.



ETA: EVER!

Implication, simplification and oversimplification. You do not know what you are talking about.

9/11 was verifiably conducted on the basis of uber secrecy. From those we know who were engaging in EXERCISES and who could not differentiate "exercise" from "real world" and vice versa, to those who knew they were supposed to push such and such a button or say such and such a thing, the technique of compartmentalization and of compartmented information kept almost all who were involved in 9/11 OUT OF THE LOOP of knowing what was actually happening. Just ask Dawne Deskins.

Not only do we not know what happened on 9/11, we certainly do not know who did it. Because we do not know who did it, I am not implicating anyone or any entity. We simply do not know who did 9/11 and it is as futile to say who did it as it is for you to try to avoid looking at the truth imparted by the 4 witnesses.

 

[BigAl]

Not only do we you don't know what happened on 9/11, we certainly do not know who did it. Because we do not know who did it, I am not implicating anyone or any entity. We simply do not know who did 9/11 and it is as futile to say who did it as it is for you to try to avoid looking at the truth imparted by the 4 witnesses.[/I][/B]

"We" ? Is there someone there with you?

As far as users here on JREF and in the real world, you are all alone.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Is'nt he the bozo who miraculously saw both hits on both towers,

How is it miraculous he saw both? If had seen the first from across the the river I'm pretty sure I would have kept watching the drama unfold.....what do you think he should have done instead?

 

[tsig]

Ok.
Ok!
I have to come clean.
I saw NO PLANE myself. Clear as day.

I was in my office in Cologne, Germany. Actually, customer premises, but we had a project office there. Around 2:55pm CET (8:55 ET), one of the two project assitants sent around an email that claimed a plane had crashed into WTC 1 - but frankly, from where we were, we did not hear a plane, and we did not see a plane. I repeat: NO PLANE!
I am pretty sure I heard no bus either, and definitely no subway train.
Which kinda - I don't know, I didn't know what it was, I only know we all saw NO PLANE. So it immediately struck me it had to be something that does not exist, and that I know absolutely nothing about, and then it struck me:

Of course! DEWs!


ETA: The project assistant's parents at the time worked for the German diplomatic corps in Kirgistan. Yeah, that Kirgistan, that's next to Caveman-country (Afghanistan)!
There uhhhhh must be a connection!! Somehow!!! 11!!!111eleventy!

ETA: PS: What does this 11!!!111eleventy! stuff mean???


[/LOGJAM]

it means the "!" and the "1' are on the same key and in the heat of the moment some forget to hold down the shift key.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Give up Oystein. Jim Friedl is a well known character, or should I say, caricature, in 9/11 world. He is described as "a BOZO" in and by several leading 9/11 Truth publications, including, by way of nonexhaustive example, either Loose Change or 9/11 Mysteries, or both.

Oh well thats conclusive then...NOT!

As you may know, those two documentaries, though flawed, contain a lot of very valuable research and were exceedingly influential in getting a large percentage of people all over the world to wake up.

They are absolute unadulterated tripe! Name one thing they got right....just one!

Jim Friedl is, then, a bozo and is a part of the 9/11 psyop, according to many. His story does not hold up under scrutiny and he is, indeed, yet another who should be included with Sean Murtagh and Rosa Cardona Rivera. Fake and phoney witnesses, orchestrated by and for the psyop.[/

You have not shown that any of them are not exactly who they claimed to be or that they did not see what they saw. Please provide proof of what you assert or shut up.

 

[tsig]

The sound at about the 7:15 mark of the second Dick Oliver video matches the sound heard in the 1:16 video at the 0:18 -0:28 segment, up to the squeak sound in that first video.

Moreover, at about the 7:28 mark of the second Dick Oliver video, a very important development occurred:

The Dick Oliver feed was lost or cut; and, small wonder. The Dick Oliver video was giving us the reality of 9/11 and not the psyop.

One wonders whether Dick Oliver and David Stollick kept on recording and caught the second explosion?

If so, more 9/11 truth might exist. Certainly, Jim Ryan knew that the Dick Oliver picture was the better of the two he apparently had access to. The Dick Oliver feed allowed Jim Ryan to be among the early NO PLANERS. He said:

"...If that's the case, where's the plane, I would ask? I don't see it in that live picture..."


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Well, JIM RYAN, unfortunately, we were all prevented from seeing THAT PICTURE soon afterwards.

When the picture from Dick Oliver was lost, we lost a lot, posters and lurkers.

Yes, you were that close.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

9/11 was verifiably conducted on the basis of uber secrecy.

OK please show us how it is "verified"?

From those we know who were engaging in EXERCISES and who could not differentiate "exercise" from "real world" and vice versa, to those who knew they were supposed to push such and such a button or say such and such a thing, the technique of compartmentalization and of compartmented information kept almost all who were involved in 9/11 OUT OF THE LOOP of knowing what was actually happening. Just ask Dawne Deskins.

Word salad

Not only do we not know what happened on 9/11, we certainly do not know who did it. Because we do not know who did it, I am not implicating anyone or any entity. We simply do not know who did 9/11 and it is as futile to say who did it as it is for you to try to avoid looking at the truth imparted by the 4 witnesses.

[/QUOTE]

You don't know, because you are mentally ill.....but almost everyone else in the world does know.

 

[beachnut]

...
9/11 was verifiably conducted on the basis of uber secrecy. From those we know who were engaging in EXERCISES and who could not differentiate "exercise" from "real world" and vice versa, to those who knew they were supposed to push such and such a button or say such and such a thing, the technique of compartmentalization and of compartmented information kept almost all who were involved in 9/11 OUT OF THE LOOP of knowing what was actually happening. Just ask Dawne Deskins.

Not only do we not know what happened on 9/11, we certainly do not know who did it. Because we do not know who did it, I am not implicating anyone or any entity. We simply do not know who did 9/11 and it is as futile to say who did it as it is for you to try to avoid looking at the truth imparted by the 4 witnesses.

... having an exercise going has evaluators on hand who augment the response to a real world event like 911 and thus having aircraft up and on CAP for the first time over our cities. Who makes up the delusions about exercises? Exposes a lack of logic and knowledge.

We know exactly what happen on 911 because it was documented. We know exactly who did 911 and where they died on 911.

From the video there is absolute proof of an airliner, the frequency response is that of a an airliner (time of sound of impact and sound traveling through the ground verify an aircraft impact at the WTC). RADAR verifies the exact time and location of the airliner to augment the unique sound spectrum. Eyewitnesses and video verify the same.

Dick Oliver was not confused what he heard on 911 after he had all the evidence. If you think jet engines are wheel covers, you might be unable to figure out 911; you prefer delusions and to remain in ignorance.