Amanda Knox guilty - all because of a cartwheel

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lane99 said:
The one example that springs most immediately to mind is the murder of the Petit family in the US. One of the most henious and sickening crimes in memory. And the two men that did it were small time losers (like Rudy Guede) and had no particular history of violence. In fact, they had been specifically designated as "non-violent" offenders. That's how, I believe, they were able to get out of prison in the first place to become available to commit the atrocities against the Petits.

Apart from that, I would venture to say that if you looked at the background of perpetrators of home invasion rapes and murders, if not 100%, a significant majority will have of previously been involved in B&E burglaries.
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And this one example proves what?

And while you may or may not be correct with your claim that most if not all perpetrators of home invasions, rapes and murders have previously been involved in B&E burglaries; It was my contention that B&E burglaries wouldn't have been the only type of crimes in the they were involved with.

And in particular that those whose only crime is B&E burglaries were less likely commit rape and murder in subsequent crimes. Fiona's linked study seems to support that view to an extent.
 
[quote="Bruce Fisher]Put your daughter in the same situation and let me know if you still feel that 3 hours isn't long and grueling.[/quote]

You'd put your daughter there a thousand times over if it wasn't her lying dead on that cottage floor. Or would you want to swap her situation with Merediths? As a father, I'd take the hours of questioning and be glad of it...and gladly receive in exchange the reality that my daughter is still alive.

Were it your daughter on that floor, it would be your screams that would be the loudest at the slightest hint the police didn't rigorously chase every angle.

I feel glad for Meredith's family that the Italian police treated her case with such commitment. They 'could' have treated her as some foreigner (so who cares?), but they didn't, They sought the truth, despite the fact that doing so would cause tools like you to scream in outrage ('She's American, how dare you!'). How much easier it would have been for them to blame everything on the black guy. But then, Italy is not America...in a good way...after all, they don't have a history of hanging the nearest black guy from the nearest tree.

Understand, this is not a criticism of 'Americans' (many Americans despise this prejudice as much as I), but of a certain number of bad apples in the barrel. Every nation, every family, has them.
 
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halides1 said:
To all,

Dr. Johnson was initially approached by someone close to the defense. She, Dr. Hampikian, and Dr. Krane all asked to review the electronic data files in their role as consultants for the defense. Their request was made via the defense, and the prosecution refused to hand them over. By my count this was the fourth time that electronic data files had been requested and not turned over. They were requested before the pretrial hearing, the trial, and in July when the court ordered their release. I do not have access to any trial-related defense motions (if someone has such access, PM me). I hope that this answers all of your questions, because I will have to take a break for quite some time to attend to a personal emergency. I do, however, reserve the right to respond to braying.

Halides1
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Chris,

Thanks for your response. I wish you well in your personal emergency and hope you won't be away long.
 
Fulcanelli said:
You'd put your daughter there a thousand times over if it wasn't her lying dead on that cottage floor. Or would you want to swap her situation with Merediths? As a father, I'd take the hours of questioning and be glad of it...and gladly receive in exchange the reality that my daughter is still alive.

Were it your daughter on that floor, it would be your screams that would be the loudest at the slightest hint the police didn't rigorously chase every angle.

I feel glad for Meredith's family that the Italian police treated her case with such commitment. They 'could' have treated her as some foreigner (so who cares?), but they didn't, They sought the truth, despite the fact that doing so would cause tools like you to scream in outrage ('She's American, how dare you!'). How much easier it would have been for them to blame everything on the black guy. But then, Italy is not America...in a good way...after all, they don't have a history of hanging the nearest black guy from the nearest tree.

Understand, this is not a criticism of 'Americans' (many Americans despise this prejudice as much as I), but of a certain number of bad apples in the barrel. Every nation, every family, has them.
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You are a delusional human being.

You wrote: "it would be your screams that would be the loudest at the slightest hint the police didn't rigorously chase every angle."

You think the police rigorously chased every angle?

The first 2 people they laid there eyes on became their first 2 suspects.

They knew Amanda was guilty before any evidence was even collected.

Have you ever heard me talk about the fact that Amanda is American so how dare Italy? I don't know if you noticed the subtitle of my site.

A site detailing the wrongful conviction of Amanda Knox & Raffaele Sollecito

Last time I checked, Raffaele was Italian.

You defend Rudy Guede in a very disturbing way. I will never understand that. Rudy Guede brutally murdered Meredith Kercher. There is more to come about Rudy.

The fact that Guede will most likely be out of prison in 8 years is extremely unfortunate. Meredith and her family deserved to have justice served. The prosecution in this case failed them.


You bring race into the conversation when it has no bearing on this case. You take your jab at America and then give it a little side note.

Your true character has really been revealed over the last few days. Good luck to you. One day you will look in the mirror and realize what you have become.
 
shuttlt said:
Bruce,

when you come back... it strikes me that the nearest equivalent 'guilter' site to yours is True Justice. What would you say were the top one or two factual errors on it?
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Harry Rag posts all of his lies on True Justice. He posts as "The Machine"

Peter Quennell is a very unique man. He doesn't like me.
 
halides1 -

I too wish you well in dealing with your personal emergency and offer my wish that it is not such an emergency as you first thought.
 
Bruce Fisher said:
Harry Rag posts all of his lies on True Justice. He posts as "The Machine"

Peter Quennell is a very unique man. He doesn't like me.
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Don't just call them 'lies', deconstruct them...provide your evidence to show that they are lies.

Otherwise, it's just more assertions. And to call someone a liar on the back of nothing more then an assertion? That's rather bad form.
 
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Fulcanelli said:
Ahh, the 'murder' may not have been, but something 'else' might well have been ;)

Knives aren't only useful to murder people. They also frighten people. Just a thought.
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Keep changing the storyline when the facts don't fit. Don't ever admit that you could be wrong.
 
Fulcanelli said:
Don't just call them 'lies', deconstruct them...provide your evidence to show that they are lies.

Otherwise, it's just more assertions. And to call someone a lar on the back of nothing more then an assertion? That's rather bad form.
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I wrote a page on Harry Rag. It's on my site. He is also the one that keeps claiming Amanda was arrested in Seattle and that her shoe print is on the pillow.
 
Bruce Fisher said:
Keep changing the storyline when the facts don't fit. Don't ever admit that you could be wrong.
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What are you talking about?

Quite a few of us have postulated that the knife was originally for theatrics, not murder - and we've done so since the beginning of this thread (or close to it).
 
Bruce Fisher said:
There are only a few poeple here. Let's face it, there are maybe ten people here.
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A thread that's lasted almost five months. Nearly 9,000 posts by over 150 members, and close to 170,000 views of the thread.

Yup, only a few.

And this isn't even a 'true crime' board. Heck, there are hardly any true crime threads here. Unless you count the CT forums (which this is beginning to resemble, with your help.)

I know of at least one true crime board roughly as large and busy as the JREF Forums as a whole that has had a thread on the Knox case running since '07, and in that entire time it has barely had a third as much activity as this one's five months.

Yup. Only a few.

There's been more than "maybe ten people" who have become forum members solely to post to this thread.

I happen to dislike PMF if you had not noticed. I don't like people that devote their lives to attempt to hurt others.

I am at work. When we are slow, I come on here and kill time.

I am realizing that it isn't even a good way to kill time.
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Now, don't feel like that. It's been vastly amusing. At least to me. I suspect I'm not the only one who's enjoyed you. I suppose it's sad in a way, but still fun to watch, sort of like slapstick comedy.

It was good you came when you did. Dan O. was getting boring and repetitive. Not to mention embarrassing, what with the rampant xenophobia and all.
 
Fulcanelli said:
And that's your problem...you treated us like your fish from the get go. Best you go talk to your fish. We'll challenge your assertions, your fish won't.

Learning ones own limitations is the beginning of personal growth.
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I keep coming back because I am intrigued at what garbage you will post next. Go to sleep, it's 3:30 in the morning. You can start up your delusional thoughts again after a good night sleep.

Kermits back to keep me entertained. Maybe he will make another powerpoint. I like Spiderman.
 
quadraginta said:
A thread that's lasted almost five months. Nearly 9,000 posts by over 150 members, and close to 170,000 views of the thread.

Yup, only a few.

And this isn't even a 'true crime' board. Heck, there are hardly any true crime threads here. Unless you count the CT forums (which this is beginning to resemble, with your help.)

I know of at least one true crime board roughly as large and busy as the JREF Forums as a whole that has had a thread on the Knox case running since '07, and in that entire time it has barely had a third as much activity as this one's five months.

Yup. Only a few.

There's been more than "maybe ten people" who have become forum members solely to post to this thread.




Now, don't feel like that. It's been vastly amusing. At least to me. I suspect I'm not the only one who's enjoyed you. I suppose it's sad in a way, but still fun to watch, sort of like slapstick comedy.

It was good you came when you did. Dan O. was getting boring and repetitive. Not to mention embarrassing, what with the rampant xenophobia and all.
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Oh the memories of what once was. this used to be a good board. I read it often. Those days are over. It's just on average, 10 people now.
 
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