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Kirby: Most people with autism born after 1987

shawmutt

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Sorry if a repost, I searched around and was surprised I didn't see this posted. A buddy of mine posted this a few days ago on Facebook. The stupidity sensors in my brain burned away the sight receptors, and I'm just now regaining my vision.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/autism-vaccine-epa-study_b_548837.html

Kirby said:
If it seems like most of the people you know with autism are 22 or younger, that's because most people diagnosed with autism were born after 1987.
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:jaw-dropp

But...wait...huh? I never knew someone could fit so much stupid in a single sentence. I can see that his career as a journalist really paid off.

He goes on:

The EPA officials did not offer a list of substances that should be looked at, though they did note that studies on MMR vaccine and the mercury-based vaccine preservative thimerosal, "did not support a relationship with autism," including a 2004 report from the Institute of Medicine.

No studies have been done on other vaccine ingredients and autism risk, however, nor on the entire vaccine schedule.
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Slick bit of double-speak there--"it's not the vaccines...or is it???!?!?!?" It's those "other" ingredients.

Ugh, got to stop, the whole article is just a slimy strawman. Is there a HuffPo death count website yet?
 
The actual study seems pretty inconclusive to me. It says that the rate of reported AD increased, but we really knew that.
It mention the definition of AD being consistent, but considering that the problem is with applying this diagnostic, that does not mean much.
It does not address the rate of AD across the population, which is important to determine if new incidence were involved.

The article itself is very prudent and putative in its tone and, really, the only thing they firmly state is how unlikely it is that vaccine are implicated.
Which is, not surprisingly, the only part Kirby does not mention...
 
I was well in my 20's before I knew I had ADHD. Because they really did not 100% know what it was when I was a kid. I was just hyper/lazy kid growing up.
 
Most people alive today are reported to have been born after 1900. You have a greater chance of dying if you were born on or before 1900.
 
headscratcher4 said:
Most people alive today are reported to have been born after 1900. You have a greater chance of dying if you were born on or before 1900.
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The number of people born before 1900 is now less than 1000 - more on the 500 level. Of course, they are all at least 110 years old, so that makes a difference.

It's pretty amazing, we are almost without anyone born before 1900.
 
shawmutt said:
Is there a HuffPo death count website yet?
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Considering the amount of space they give to new age gurus hawking miracle cures, their constant claims that modern medicine doesn't work, and the amount of anti-vax stuff, there really should be.

Huff Po is the Fox News of the left
 
Schrodinger's Cat said:
Considering the amount of space they give to new age gurus hawking miracle cures, their constant claims that modern medicine doesn't work, and the amount of anti-vax stuff, there really should be.

Huff Po is the Fox News of the left
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No Kidding.
Any idea that people on the Left are automatically more immune to buying into nonsense then those on the Right should be dispelled by a visit to Huffpo--or The Democratic Underground for that matter.
What amazes me is how many people on the Left have been taking in by that Con Woman Adriana....she wants to be some kind of political kingmaker, and does not care what ideology she adapts to that end. NOt all the long ago she was trying to a conservative big time player, and it is only when she failed at that that she had her conversion to the left.
It's interesting that California Liberals want nothing to do with her; they know too much about her.
 
Asperger Syndrome (AS) is something a person is born with (research supports the likelihood of a genetic basis). It is a form of behavioral and developmental impairment, and not a form of mental impairment (many people with AS are highly intelligent). AS was first proposed in 1944 to define a set of behavioral characteristics, and has been 'officially' recognized since 1994. Currently classified as a form of High-Functioning Autism, this classification is also currently in dispute. Thus, at least one form of Autism was under study as far back as 70 years ago.
 
Schrodinger's Cat said:
Considering the amount of space they give to new age gurus hawking miracle cures, their constant claims that modern medicine doesn't work, and the amount of anti-vax stuff, there really should be.

Huff Po is the Fox News of the left
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Not at all.

Huff Po never, ever claimed to be "fair and balanced."

The problem with Fox News is not that they have a conservative spin. It is that they do it while claiming they don't.

Neither Huffington Post or MSNBC, the usual suspects in the "left's version of Fox" never make any such pretense. As such, they are nothing like Fox.
 
pgwenthold said:
Not at all.

Huff Po never, ever claimed to be "fair and balanced."

The problem with Fox News is not that they have a conservative spin. It is that they do it while claiming they don't.

Neither Huffington Post or MSNBC, the usual suspects in the "left's version of Fox" never make any such pretense. As such, they are nothing like Fox.
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This is like an inverted false analogy fallacy.

Instead of " these 2 things have one thing in common(while ignoring differences relevant to the argument), therefore they are the same."

You say " these 2 things have this one irrelevant difference(while ignoring glaring similarities), therefore they are nothing alike."

Who cares what Fox News' slogan is or if it is false? This is par for the course on cable news and NO ONE believes that they are "fair and balanced" but those who are already biased, thus it doesn't really matter what they call themselves. Fox News' slogan might as well be "watching any other news network gives you AIDS!".

It is a claim that no one takes seriously, and is therefore not relevant IMO.
 
Gate2501 said:
It is a claim that no one takes seriously, and is therefore not relevant IMO.
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You haven't met my family, apparently.

In fact, a very large number of conservatives actually believe that Fox News is "fair and balanced."

Again, the problem with Fox News is not that they are biased, but they assert they are not - and too many buy into it. If Fox News viewers would say, "I like Fox because they put a conservative spin on the news," then I would say they are like Huff Po and MSNBC. But that's not what they say.
 
pgwenthold said:
The number of people born before 1900 is now less than 1000 - more on the 500 level. Of course, they are all at least 110 years old, so that makes a difference.

It's pretty amazing, we are almost without anyone born before 1900.
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500 yet? how many centennials do i have to keep "euthanizing"? geez...
 
2 factors 'probably causing a higher rate of recorded autism since 1987:
population increase (there were about 5 billion in 1987, now heading for 7 billion), and the diagnosis itself, which most people who are autistic/AS have been diagnosed more recently, and a lot of older people with autism/AS would not have a diagnosis at all. also a lot of people with mild autism/AS might not get diagnosed as a child. (I self diagnosed myself with AS at the end of last year, and got an official diagnosis with AS earlier this year, and I am 19)
 
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