The Freeman Movement and England

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Why should anyone 'submit' an application to use the highway when, in fact, the Common Law recognises the right of everyone to travel without being stopped (unless they are suspected of committing a crime) ? So says the law.

Furthermore, I need no 'permit' from anyone to exercise my rights in law. If you wish to beg for them by application forms, permits, licences etc. that's your business.

But let me leave here with this simple fact. Licences are granted ONLY for lawful activities. Think about it. It is lawful to do any kind of business that is already lawful. I do not need anyone to licence what is already lawful. If you do, great.

Welcome to reality.

And the difference is simple. Some know the law and their own rights in law. Others are subject to every statute under the sun. What is lawful and what is legal are two very different things. Know the Common Law and stop being a slave of the system.

That's the difference and it shows.
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And when courts decide to adhere to the actual common law (you know, by following precedent and such) instead of your fanciful imaginary version of it, what then? Armed rebellion?
 
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Why should anyone 'submit' an application to use the highway when, in fact, the Common Law recognises the right of everyone to travel without being stopped (unless they are suspected of committing a crime) ? So says the law.
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The right in question is the right to operate a motor vehicle on a public highway, for which the law requires proper registration, insurance and licensing. You are of course welcome to travel on any public highway whenever you see fit, but it may take a long time if you're walking.

Dave
 
tobjai said:
Dude, you don't get" pulled over" for driving in your own lot. Not even in police-state-GB. What a ridiculous insinuation!
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You do if someone had reported that he was about to drive on the highway without plates or insurance.
 
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Why should anyone 'submit' an application to use the highway when, in fact, the Common Law recognises the right of everyone to travel without being stopped (unless they are suspected of committing a crime) ? So says the law.
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Do you just make up the law as you go along (answer: yes). Please cite the common law case which declares you have the freedom to travel on government owned property (hint: thats what roads are - even if you don't want to pay for them everyone else is) without obeying the rules surrounding the use of that property?

We'll wait while you go find it. This might take a while, since such a case does not exist.

That is because the minute you drive a car on a road that you didn't build, there are rules surrounding its use because it is government property paid for by tax dollars. You are free to "travel" all you want and not use the roads, and you won't have to have a drivers license.

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The difference is simple. Some know the law and their own rights in law. Others are subject to every statute under the sun. What is lawful and what is legal are two very different things. Know the Common Law and stop being a slave of the system.
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Indeed, the difference is simple. Some know the law and know that you have to have a drivers license if you want to drive on government roads. Others live in delusional fantasy lands.
 
D'rok said:
You're right. I did miss that post. Given that Josh is in serious legal trouble over his "travels", are you really going to argue that "highway" doesn't mean precisely what it is defined to mean in the Act?
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So you read my initial post now? You still blabber on about "highway" as if you didn't read that post! What's up with that?!?
 
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Why should anyone 'submit' an application to use the highway when, in fact, the Common Law recognises the right of everyone to travel without being stopped (unless they are suspected of committing a crime) ? So says the law.

Furthermore, I need no 'permit' from anyone to exercise my rights in law.
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Do you drive, Especially?
 
tobjai said:
So you read my initial post now? You still blabber on about "highway" as if you didn't read that post! What's up with that?!?
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Please enlighten me. What does Josh require in order to "travel" in his car on the "highways" (as defined in the Act) in London, Ontario?
 
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How true ! And there IS a difference between living and non-living things, isn't there ?

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Self evidently.

It's a pleasure to come across a Freeman who is in a position to 'enlighten' us with his 'pearls of wisdom'. Most of you lot seem to be banged up or making a nuisance of yourselves in Magistrate Courts.
 
tobjai said:
Have you ever spend much time on the subjects of psychology and lingual science?
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"Lingual science"? Interesting turn of phrase there. To the people who actually have spent time on that subject, the term is "linguistics." For example, the largest and most prestigious body in the field is the LSA : the Linguistic Society of America. The departments are almost univerally called "linguistics" in the universities. (Example.) There's no journal with "lingual science" in the title.

I suspect our friend may be less familiar with this field than many others on the thread.
 
drkitten said:
"Lingual science"? Interesting turn of phrase there. To the people who actually have spent time on that subject, the term is "linguistics." For example, the largest and most prestigious body in the field is the LSA : the Linguistic Society of America. The departments are almost univerally called "linguistics" in the universities. (Example.) There's no journal with "lingual science" in the title.

I suspect our friend may be less familiar with this field than many others on the thread.
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He's a legal scholar. Can't expect him to know everything about everything.
 
remirol said:
Sorry if you don't like it, but you have to live here same as the rest of us. Unless you'd like to provide some evidence...
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I have. You just refuse to accept it as such.


But again... You guys... keep worshipping your headmasters and ridiculing the free (even if its just the free cognitively, like in my case) while padding your own shoulders. Meanwhile we are going to set ourselves free, and enlarge the community by spreading the word... in the end the question of "does it work?" is only a matter of numbers.

Yous, who love oppression by means of codification and despise (quote Drok) the true free have a long way to go... learning about responsibility,spiritual superiority and love... oh, and first and foremost being willing to learn!

Thats it for me.... for now... be back in a week or so... maybe :)
 
tobjai said:
I have. You just refuse to accept it as such.
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That's because it isn't evidence, it's just assertions on your part.

Of course, we have evidence (conveniently provided by Josh himself) that Josh was indeed ticketed and summoned to court for the very offence you try to pretend he wasn't.

Reality is so much easier than jail, isn't it?
 
tobjai said:
I have. You just refuse to accept it as such.


But again... You guys... keep worshipping your headmasters and ridiculing the free (even if its just the free cognitively, like in my case) while padding your own shoulders. Meanwhile we are going to set ourselves free, and enlarge the community by spreading the word... in the end the question of "does it work?" is only a matter of numbers.

Yous, who love oppression by means of codification and despise (quote Drok) the true free have a long way to go... learning about responsibility,spiritual superiority and love... oh, and first and foremost being willing to learn!

Thats it for me.... for now... be back in a week or so... maybe :)
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You are Canadian, yes? I have pointed out numerous times in this thread the actual heroism of some historical Canadians - namely Emily Murphy, Henrietta Muir Edwards, Louise McKinney, Irene Parlby, and Nellie McClung. Do you care to comment on their struggle? Just to jog your memory, it was to have their personhood recognized, so that "person" included women. Please regale us with your revisionist history of how they really struggled to put the chains of codification on themselves, and of how you "truly" free dipsticks are going to change all of that.

I'm waiting.
 
Jail seems to be a continual theme in your posts Remirol.

Let me put it this way. Governments are there to serve people, not vice versa. How does that grab you ? Can you handle it ? It's called freedom. And the Common Law is the context within which we are able to stay free. How simple does it get ?



remirol said:
That's because it isn't evidence, it's just assertions on your part.

Of course, we have evidence (conveniently provided by Josh himself) that Josh was indeed ticketed and summoned to court for the very offence you try to pretend he wasn't.

Reality is so much easier than jail, isn't it?
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Jail seems to be a continual theme in your posts Remirol.
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It also seems to be a continual theme for Freemen... as in it's where they all end up any time they try to put any of this rubbish into practice.

Still waiting for your demonstration of you driving without a license, registration, or insurance, being pulled over, and being let go. Going to step up to the plate?
 
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