Minds that think alike...(re: Aliens)

In my speculative opinion, extraterrestrials that would have been traveling around space for awhile now would have, at some point, succumb to disease via viruses. As they evolved, within the confines of their ships, the viruses would have eventually become the dominant organism as they mutated to overcome the attempts by the aliens to suppress them. What would be advantageous, would be for the virus to eventually adapt to the host in such as a way as to control the host to "do it's bidding", thus the host and the virus would essentially be "one". And as one host died, the virus could infect another one, spreading onward from host to host, controlling the host in attempts to maintain a population and individual lifespan for the virus, not the host.

Eventually, though, hosts would run out, and the virus would have to either remain dormant somehow, or learn to use aspects of the ship, or aspects of space, as a host. And at the point the virus arrived to earth, there would be no trace of an extraterrestrial species that powered a ship set out to explore the universe ... there would only remain the virus which was capable of adapting to both organism and inanimate object in order to reproduce and continue to project it's cumulative and mutated "will".

And thus, we have Republicans that still exist today.
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ETA: and Mayday, with your OP title, are you saying you think like an alien or like Stephen Hawking?
 
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mayday said:
What this man says makes perfect sense to me...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100425/sc_afp/scienceastronomyextraterrestrialhawking
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There is no doubt that what Hawking says makes sense - logically it is an entirely plausible scenario. However, it has not happened yet with current alien visitations.

On the virus side of things, we have just begun to discover the power of DNA to "manufacture" useful chemicals etc and even repair mechanisms for our own DNA - and aliens would presumably know that power and may have been sampling DNA (from microbes to humans) for a very long time in search of discoveries - discoveries that we have only just begun to realise the potential existence of - perhaps they have already taken patents out with the Galactic Council...
 
Rramjet said:
There is no doubt that what Hawking says makes sense - logically it is an entirely plausible scenario. However, it has not happened yet with current alien visitations.

On the virus side of things, we have just begun to discover the power of DNA to "manufacture" useful chemicals etc and even repair mechanisms for our own DNA - and aliens would presumably know that power and may have been sampling DNA (from microbes to humans) for a very long time in search of discoveries - discoveries that we have only just begun to realise the potential existence of - perhaps they have already taken patents out with the Galactic Council...
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And the Galactic Council sends scout ships to scare the crap out out of rednecks on lonely roads at night and flatten some cornfields.Highly advanced,you've convinced me.
 
Michael Crichton's book 'Sphere' talks about such concens in (if I renmember correctly) quite an interesting way.

Alien contact might be far more alien than we are capable of imagining.

Or they may be entirely benign and friendly but accidentally wipe us out simply with their greeting of hello.

Or may simply consist of a great big sphere that no-one can get into and can't understand.
 
The US probes Pioneer 10 and 11 were launched in 1972 and 1973 bearing plaques of a naked man and woman and symbols seeking to convey the positions of the Earth and the Sun.
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Why was it necessary to point this out, I wonder? Why not just say "images of humans"?
 
arthwollipot said:
Why was it necessary to point this out, I wonder? Why not just say "images of humans"?
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Because that is too complicated for simpletons to understand.

Regarding the OP, maybe it already happened. The aliens manipulated the DNA of a member of the ape family to create a ready source of semi-intelligent slave laborers.:cool:

I've always felt that the idea of broadcasting information to space was a risky proposition. It may stem from the same "superiority complex" that compels Christians to send missionaries to other countries and that has been used to justify colonization. "We are humans, created in god's image, so we are better than anything and anybody in the universe."
 
mayday said:
What this man says makes perfect sense to me...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100425/sc_afp/scienceastronomyextraterrestrialhawking
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I doubt that there are a lot of people who don't think that intelligent alien life exists, not only in the universe but within our own galaxy.

The possibilty that these aliens are close enough, in both space and civilization, to travel to Earth is much less likely.

The possibility that these aliens pop in to tease lonely humans on desolate country roads is, I think, vanishingly small.
 
SonOfLaertes said:
I doubt that there are a lot of people who don't think that intelligent alien life exists, not only in the universe but within our own galaxy.

The possibilty that these aliens are close enough, in both space and civilization, to travel to Earth is much less likely.

The possibility that these aliens pop in to tease lonely humans on desolate country roads is, I think, vanishingly small.
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And the odds of anal probes?
 
Yeah, its not the first time I hear such concerns about aliens contact. Honestly I don't find the idea and the arguments very convincing. Its built over "maybes" and "what ifs" based on a single-point dataset and bias.

I remember reading decades ago an old Mandrake comic where they find a big alien spacecraft (humanoid but with cool gliding membranes like those of flying squirrels). They ask the aliens "Are you here to invade Earth?" and the reply is something like "No. Invading other planets is just way too expensive!."

Come to think of it, why the hell would a civilization capable of interstellar travel want to harvest mineral commodities on Earth's gravity well when you can find them all floating around as asteroids and nebulae?
 
I think that the scientific knowledge to be gained from genuine alien contact outweighs any purely social concerns. We're pretty resilient. We'll cope. And what we'd learn..!
 
I would think that an alien race advanced enough to travel here from great distances would be smart enough to look for resources closer to home, as there is a huge cost in time, effort, and energy requirements, such that the value of any minerals taken from Earth would be almost worthless, or used up, by the time they got them back home. As some have pointed out, there are easier ways to get useful minerals without mining them from here. Unless there is some specific and quite unique mineral or life form here on the planet they are desperate for, then I do not see a benefit to traveling great intergalactic distances to acquire what can be found closer to home. It just doesn't make sense to me.
 
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TheSkepticCanuck said:
I would think that an alien race advanced enough to travel here from great distances would be smart enough to look for resources closer to home, as there is a huge cost in time, effort, and energy requirements, such that the value of any minerals taken from Earth would be almost worthless, or used up, by the time they got them back home. As some have pointed out, there are easier ways to get useful minerals without mining them from here. Unless there is some specific and quite unique mineral or life form here on the planet they are desperate for, then I do not see a benefit to traveling great intergalactic distances to acquire what can be found closer to home. It just doesn't make sense to me.
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They come here for cheeseburgers.

Which also explains the cattle mutilations...they don't come anywhere close to us in the area of beef grinding technology.
 
Imagine what we would do if we could travel to other planets; extrapolate; hide the children.
 
Hellbound said:
They come here for cheeseburgers.

Which also explains the cattle mutilations...they don't come anywhere close to us in the area of beef grinding technology.
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There is evidence to back this claim.

Although McDonalds was founded in 1940, the revolutionary "Speedee Service System" wasn't implemented until 1948, making it essentially the first fast food restaurant.

If that's not alien technology resulting from the 1947 Roswell fiasco I don't know what is.

Furthermore, who would gain to benefit the most from high volume consumption of beef in a fast food environment? Chicken Gods. That's who. It's the only answer that has ever made sense to "why did the chicken cross the road." ----- it was to enslave mankind on beef intake, after that fateful crash in New Mexico, in order to fatten us up for their day of reckoning and liberation of the rotisserie brethren.
 
quarky said:
Imagine what we would do if we could travel to other planets; extrapolate; hide the children.
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Oh, but what exactly would we do? You know, James Cameron's Avatar is not exactly a faithfull representation of how mining companies act nowadays. Looks nice on the big screen and reinforces the beliefs of many a leftist greenie but its a big fat lie.

If you want metals, asteroids have plenty of it and in metallic state. Stuff which is much easier to process than what you would find down on Earth. Oh, and no gravity well. If you want water, there's the Oort cloud... Have I mentioned that in both cases there would be no annoying meat bags around?

Now, what would we actally do if we could travel to other planets? Wait, we already can! And what are we actually doing? Sending robotic probes to do science.

Deep down, when it comes to alien behavior, what people do is to project beliefs and fears. See us as ruthless imperialists? You'll project evil conquerors. See value in our scientific enterprises and believe our civilization will evolve better ethics? You'll project scientists tracking our evolution.
 
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