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Bill O'Reilly is Completely Dishonest
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The BBC not only thinks it, they admit it. They are not only bias, but they fake video footage as well. The fact you fail to recognize the inherent BBC bias "makes it even funnier."
Confessions of a BBC liberal
"The BBC has finally come clean about its bias, says a former editor, who wrote Yes, Minister
"In the past four weeks there have been two remarkable changes in the public attitude to the BBC. The first and most newsworthy one was precipitated by the faked trailer of the Queen walking out of a photographic portrait session with Annie Leibovitz.
It was especially damaging because the licence fee is based on a public belief that the BBC offers a degree of integrity and impartiality which its commercial competitors cannot achieve."
BBC Admits Anti-American Bias
"The BBC is coming around to recognizing and acknowledging its own bias.
At a recent, so-called "impartiality" conference, one of its top executives acknowledged that the BBC has not been listening to its viewers, and has come to be dominated by leftist and politically correct viewpoints."
http://www.aim.org/media-monitor/bbc-admits-anti-american-bias/
BBC report damns its ‘culture of bias’
"It concludes that the bias has extended across drama, comedy and entertainment, with the corporation pandering to politically motivated celebrities and trendy causes."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article1942948.ece
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Shalamar
Dark Lord of the JREF
Ahh.. The ever common Cicero 'Liberals are evil' comments, and 'Conservatives are never wrong, and are paragons of integrity'. In other words.. The ravings of a right-wing nut.
I almost miss Lefty Sergent.. We seem to have run low on left-wing nuts.
I almost miss Lefty Sergent.. We seem to have run low on left-wing nuts.
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Papa Funkosophy
...and that's why it's okay for O'Reilly to lie his fool head off and/or that's why O'Reilly didn't lie after all!!
Yay!
Saying O'Reilly was wrong means he was right in your parallel universe? That is just nuts in either direction.
funk de fino
Dreaming of unicorns
One guys says. Are you seriously trying to paint them as bias against the Queen? Good luck with that.
So the BBC should be populist? From your piece, the only part about the US.
One guy said. Your headline is a lie.
Yet they did not report or show the Palestine appeal?
Epic fail.
Those on the left say it is right wing, those on the right say it is left wing. Some say it is anti israel, some say it is pro palestine. the clue here is that both sides claim bias. That should tell you something.
funk de fino is blissfully ignorant about his beloved BBC's bias, Reminding him of their bias is the reason for the burr under your saddle?
I said O'Reilly was wrong in post #27. Did you miss that for the same reason that Shalamar did?
Shalamar
Dark Lord of the JREF
The thread is 'Bill O'reilly was dishonest'. He certainly is. You replied 'He was wrong', which is not the same. And you still rant about how evil the left is..
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And then, in post #60, you hedged back by cherry-picking quotes with words like may and theoretically possible. Suggesting it wasn't as wide-spread or pervasive as it really was.
I don't really care about the BBC one way or the other. What does that have to do with this thread, Cicero?
funk de fino
Dreaming of unicorns
It's the usual to wrongs make a right argument. It seems to be all he has after the Babs Streisand debacle.
It is only permissible to "rant" about how "evil" the right is on JREF?
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Since you don't admit the BBC is biased, even when they themselves admit to it, why would Babs sharing troofer beliefs get you to admit she is a troofer?
Now Upchurch can Upbraid you on bringing in Babs' trooferism into this thread.
Shalamar
Dark Lord of the JREF
I'd rather there was no ranting at all. The ranting makes the politics section... While.. somewhat entertaining, less full of actual facts and information.
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Papa Funkosophy
I have no idea what you are talking about. How does this relate to the thread topic, Cicero?
Do you have funk de fino on ignore? Your thread derail accusations are curiously selective.
So, once all the facts are actually in:
O'Reilly wasn't wrong. Directly following an announcement that implied the possibility of jail time, Fox News talked about it as a possibility. All the quotes that have been brought up are from that period.
No one on Fox News has reported or implied that the bill as actually passed will send people to jail, which was O'Reilly's statement to Coburn, and is true.
O'Reilly wasn't wrong. Directly following an announcement that implied the possibility of jail time, Fox News talked about it as a possibility. All the quotes that have been brought up are from that period.
No one on Fox News has reported or implied that the bill as actually passed will send people to jail, which was O'Reilly's statement to Coburn, and is true.
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Looks like you were the one that brought up BBC and then went nuts about it.
Unabogie
Philosopher
No, seriously, you can't believe what you just wrote. Bill O'Reilly claimed that no one ever said anything about jail on FOX. And he said this because some woman told Tom Coburn she was afraid of going to jail. Coburn rightly said that FOX had misled her and they did. That's why people who watch FOX think the law mandates criminal penalties and has "16000 new IRS agents" to enforce the penalties.
Did you watch the clips? FOX was rife with jail talk. They were teeming with it. Silly with it. Infested with it.
None of this was ever true. Not now, not before. The fact that in some tortured reading of the bill, you could have made the case that an out of control IRS would seek massive tax evasion charges over $1900 delinquencies and targeted poor patriotic Teabaggers is just part of the dishonesty. Name a law, and I can point out to you how some whacked out prosecutor could abuse it and charge someone. That doesn't mean the law is flawed or that the idea has any validity whatsoever.
It's a conspiracy theory masquerading as garden variety cynical mendacity.
In other words, it's nuts.
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I have a couple of comments on this.
The original house bill that was passed, HR 3962 said this (Sec. 59B)
The bill also required you to state all sorts of information about your coverage, and there were real tax-code penalties (that I haven't looked up yet, but may include jail) for not reporting them.
The Bill that was passed, H.R. 3590 (aka the Senate Bill) has a clause forbidding jail time or criminal prosecution in Sect 5000A,
The first bill that passed the house included penalties (probably jailtime) for not paying the additional taxes due to not having health insurance. The final bill that passed both houses specifically forbid any criminal prosecution. Which means no one has to pay it because they can't force you to.
The original house bill that was passed, HR 3962 said this (Sec. 59B)
The bill also required you to state all sorts of information about your coverage, and there were real tax-code penalties (that I haven't looked up yet, but may include jail) for not reporting them.
The Bill that was passed, H.R. 3590 (aka the Senate Bill) has a clause forbidding jail time or criminal prosecution in Sect 5000A,
The first bill that passed the house included penalties (probably jailtime) for not paying the additional taxes due to not having health insurance. The final bill that passed both houses specifically forbid any criminal prosecution. Which means no one has to pay it because they can't force you to.
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If you believe this was a "CT," ABC News and MSNBC's Keith Olbermann perpetuated it as well.
In the same show with Coburn, O'Reilly agreed with Coburn's second point about how some FOX News on-air people utter uncivil remarks about Pelosi. Was that "nuts" as well? Does that make O'Reilly more or less "dishonest?"