Directed-energy weapons and the WTC

[Scott Sommers]

I'm also wondering about the behaviour of the so-called dustified steel. Metal powder reacts to magnets in very particular ways. It's claimed that hundreds of thousands of tons of dustified metal was floating around interacting with magnets and other magnetized surfaces. I don't know where one would find magnets in commercial products, but I'm sure they exist.

Jammi, real question - are there any reports of steel 'dust' sticking to magnets in the households of New Yorkers? There must be a hundred billion fridge magnets in NY City. And this wouldn't even include powerful commercial magnets.

Now that I think about it, there has probably never been such a huge amount of metal 'dust' in the world, much less in one localized area. It couldn't have just 'blown away'.

Come on Jammi, in eight years you haven't figured out this one. Makes me think your thinking on this isn't too deep. Find me up some reports of what happened to all this steel dust.

 

[BigAl]

I'm also wondering about the behaviour of the so-called dustified steel. Metal powder reacts to magnets in very particular ways. It's claimed that hundreds of thousands of tons of dustified metal was floating around interacting with magnets and other magnetized surfaces. I don't know where one would find magnets in commercial products, but I'm sure they exist.
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NYC subway track workers have inhaled steel dust as an occupational hazard. Doctors can identify it. Survivors of GZ of course show no such symptoms.

 

[aggle-rithm]

I'm also wondering about the behaviour of the so-called dustified steel. Metal powder reacts to magnets in very particular ways. It's claimed that hundreds of thousands of tons of dustified metal was floating around interacting with magnets and other magnetized surfaces. I don't know where one would find magnets in commercial products, but I'm sure they exist.

Jammi, real question - are there any reports of steel 'dust' sticking to magnets in the households of New Yorkers? There must be a hundred billion fridge magnets in NY City. And this wouldn't even include powerful commercial magnets.

I remember as a child reading a book about meteorites. The book said that if you wanted to find them, go out in your back yard with a magnet and run it over the ground. You will pick up many fine particles of iron dust, which is the remains of meteors that are constantly burning up in the Earth's atmosphere, and have been for billions of years.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

It obvious that its the space station that has the dustification beamy thingie.......its obviously a NWO plannie thingie to get around the tin foil hats that most Truthers have started to wear......
Thinking about it, what orbit would the dustification Beamy thingie or DBT for short be in to be able to hit the north tower from the north and the south tower from the south about 17 minutes later?

 

[Scott Sommers]

It obvious that its the space station that has the dustification beamy thingie.......its obviously a NWO plannie thingie to get around the tin foil hats that most Truthers have started to wear......
Thinking about it, what orbit would the dustification Beamy thingie or DBT for short be in to be able to hit the north tower from the north and the south tower from the south about 17 minutes later?

Claims the WTCs were destroyed by a space station in orbit around the Earth are completely unfounded. Until you can produce evidence of this, the most logical explanation for their destruction is a hand-held energy beam such as depicted by the Star Trek phaser. This phaser appears to have the ability to demagnitize iron and its alloys and perhaps time distortion abilities. I am sure there are abilities to this ray gun that I have missed.

Jammi and Doctor J. seem to have the most information about this. I have repeatedly called on Jammi for clarification, but he seems shy about this one. Jammi, Jammi, where are you? Help me. Help us. There seems to be no Earthly power with such techology. Could this be space aliens? I've heard there were numerous sightings of UFOs on 911. Is this the secret technology Bob Lazar tells us is being kept in Area 51? What's the connection? Area 51 must be connected with the ray guns. What else could it be?

 

[sylvan8798]

It obvious that its the space station that has the dustification beamy thingie.......its obviously a NWO plannie thingie to get around the tin foil hats that most Truthers have started to wear......
Thinking about it, what orbit would the dustification Beamy thingie or DBT for short be in to be able to hit the north tower from the north and the south tower from the south about 17 minutes later?

Yeah, but then they had to hit the south tower from above, followed by the north tower from above a short time later. And really interesting is that the dustification takes place from the impact points down and up, rather than from the roof downward, as one might expect from ray beams hitting the rooftop. That's a lot of manuevering around in a short period of time. Or maybe there were several orbiting thingies all firing away. Hmmm....my brain is starting to hurt.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

=scott.in.taiwan;5843793]Claims the WTCs were destroyed by a space station in orbit around the Earth are completely unfounded. Until you can produce evidence of this, the most logical explanation for their destruction is a hand-held energy beam such as depicted by the Star Trek phaser. This phaser appears to have the ability to demagnitize iron and its alloys and perhaps time distortion abilities. I am sure there are abilities to this ray gun that I have missed.

No No No! It can't have been a Federation Phaser as they leave no dust!....I think the most likely perpetrator were Romulan Disruptors with the dust being quite clearly residual antiprotons.
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan_disruptor

How can you not see that?

 

[Pikachu]

No No No! It can't have been a Federation Phaser as they leave no dust!....I think the most likely perpetrator were Romulan Disruptors with the dust being quite clearly residual antiprotons.
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan_disruptor

How can you not see that?

I think it's much more likely to be a spaceborne variant of the Jathar Sunglider weapon retroengineered by Torchwood. When it was used against the Sycorax it produced dust all over London. QED

 

[Scott Sommers]

I really think Jammi should straighten us out on this one. Perhaps I should send him a PM asking for help. we're never going to be able to answer this without assistance from someone who has thought more deeply about this than any of us here.

 

[ktesibios]

I'm also wondering about the behaviour of the so-called dustified steel. Metal powder reacts to magnets in very particular ways. It's claimed that hundreds of thousands of tons of dustified metal was floating around interacting with magnets and other magnetized surfaces. I don't know where one would find magnets in commercial products, but I'm sure they exist.

Loudspeakers, for one. Also dynamic microphones, old-style telephone receivers... what else...

Permanent magnet electric motors come to mind. Since these are universally used in such devices as CD players, one would expect an awful lot of home-entertainment systems to malfunction if there were large quantities of superfine steel dust floating around.

Also, CRT-type color displays (as in color TVs, older computer monitors, etc.) commonly had small permanent magnets as part of the deflection yoke assembly. The position of these magnets was adjusted to help tweak the electron beams so that they would strike the correct phosphor dots- so you would expect a lot of TV repair calls caused by conductive dust stuck all over the CRT neck.

Anything magnetized would attract the dust. I remember a product called "Mag-View", which was extremely fine iron powder suspended in a volatile liquid and dispensed from an aerosol can. We used to use it to "develop" recorded magnetic tape so as to make the recorded tracks visible for the purpose of checking track placement.

With the local atmosphere acting as a giant can of Mag-View, anything with a remanent magnetic field, such as a floppy disc, would suddenly acquire strange surface patterns of grayish dust.

 

[Bell]

But what if the DEW has changed the magnetic properties of the steel dust? Huh? Huh?

 

[alienentity]

Jammi and Doctor J. seem to have the most information about this. I have repeatedly called on Jammi for clarification, but he seems shy about this one. Jammi, Jammi, where are you? Help me.

j is singing directly from the Dr Judy playbook, so he can't answer about DEW's - Dr. Judy hasn't got a clue, and doesn't want to get a clue, you see.
All she will allow is that it was directed, some kind of energy, and some kind of weapon.
Pretty insightful, huh?

There still seems to be a market/appetite for far-fetched, crackpot ideas like this. Richard Syrett is milking this crap on his conspiracy show, and I'm noticing quite a lot of woo coming from places like one radio with Patrick Timpone - he has the usual anti-vaccine, health cure stuff - which is actually tied into 9/11 woo thru the mutual belief in the NWO grand conspiracy stuff.
I think chemtrails intersect somewhere in there as well.

I'm actually not searching for this stuff, but my podcast aggregator keeps pulling it up.

 

[Scott Sommers]

j is singing directly from the Dr Judy playbook, so he can't answer about DEW's - Dr. Judy hasn't got a clue, and doesn't want to get a clue, you see.
All she will allow is that it was directed, some kind of energy, and some kind of weapon.
Pretty insightful, huh?

There still seems to be a market/appetite for far-fetched, crackpot ideas like this. Richard Syrett is milking this crap on his conspiracy show, and I'm noticing quite a lot of woo coming from places like one radio with Patrick Timpone - he has the usual anti-vaccine, health cure stuff - which is actually tied into 9/11 woo thru the mutual belief in the NWO grand conspiracy stuff.
I think chemtrails intersect somewhere in there as well.

I'm actually not searching for this stuff, but my podcast aggregator keeps pulling it up.

You mean there are Truthers just hooking on to crazy ideas that make no sense? I can't believe it. And Jammi was sounding so clear and well thoughtout. I really want to know how the phaser beams demagnitize the metal. Is there a time distortion effect? Why does the commercial technology using DEW seem so weak and feeble compared with all that great stuff Punch & Judy keep telling us about? Is the Illuminati keeping all the cool for themselves?

I will never again post a picture of anything on the JREF, but readers might find humorous this picture of Punch & Judy puppets
http://tinyurl.com/cdzgug

 

[Sam.I.Am]

I will never again post a picture of anything on the JREF

If you don't mind me asking, why not?

 

[X]

j is singing directly from the Dr Judy playbook, so he can't answer about DEW's - Dr. Judy hasn't got a clue, and doesn't want to get a clue, you see.
All she will allow is that it was directed, some kind of energy, and some kind of weapon.
Pretty insightful, huh?

Well, technically the aircraft were directed (read: piloted), were a kind of energy (kinetic) and were used as weapons...

Which, if nothing else, goes to show how utterly useless their phrasing is in terms of defining anything specific.
Or maybe they intentionally avoid making specific claims.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Lurkers, Is it not agreed that since the use of Federation Phasers has not been proven, we ought to demand a new investigation into the possibility that planes were used, piloted by suicidal religious nutcases?

 

[Scott Sommers]

Lurkers, Is it not agreed that since the use of Federation Phasers has not been proven, we ought to demand a new investigation into the possibility that planes were used, piloted by suicidal religious nutcases?

I've been lurking around this post for a while. It's been very interesting. But I notice recently some of the most knowledgable regulars on this type of post have not been saying very much. What happened to that guy, Strawberry Jam or something like that. I haven't seen him answer any of the questions posted here about what happened to the metal dust after the WTCs were turned into piles of dust by the big ray guns.

The idea of the WTC being attacked by suicidal religious nuts is interesting. I heard something about that. But I think the idea of giant Star Trek starships or Battlestar Gallactica sounds way more interesting. And I'd like to hear that stuff about nuclear bombs, as well. It's way more fun to talk about with the kids in the lunch room. Religion's so boring. Besides, wasn't Kennedy assassinated by the CIA? And there are aliens in Area 51?

 

[twinstead]

Religious nuts with hijacked jets? Now that's just crazy talk!

 

[Scott Sommers]

Religious nuts with hijacked jets? Now that's just crazy talk!

I'm glad someone finally agrees with me. I for one knew there was something wrong even back in 2001. And if that's not enough, Jammi's pictures of wheel covers and parts of the building disappearing in dust clouds,...well that should overwhelm you with proof. Anyone who has ever seen a real demolition will know right away that the piles of dust thrown up by a building falling down are completely different from the piles of dust thrown up at the WTC collapse.

But the amazing thing to me is how anyone could discover this. As Jammi and Doctor J have pointed out, no one human seems to have seen the effect they describe. They can not point to a device that does this thing. The physical effect of turning metal to dust is unknown by the scientists and engineers who work with our Earthly knowledge. Prior to 911, there has never been a single event, in the laboratory or otherwise, that is related to this understanding of what happened at the WTC. It is truely an amazing work of deductive power that Doctor J could understand the true origins of the collapse.

The major questions left now involve the role of aliens in all this. Do you think we should open another thread?

 

[sylvan8798]

Aliens? Or psychedelic mushrooms? You make the call...