Hugo Chavez Loves Free Speech...

[funk de fino]

Hmm, where is it?

McHrozni

It's one of the DC and FdF bickering threads from moons ago.

ETA - Continuing derail reported.

 

[DC]

It's one of the DC and FdF bickering threads from moons ago.

i googled it but didnt find it anymore. and as you reported OT a few days ago, i asume the admins decide it to be not OT.

 

[funk de fino]

i googled it but didnt find it anymore. and as you reported OT a few days ago, i asume the admins decide it to be not OT.

This thread is about freedom of speech, not FARC compouters. I can see why you want to avoid the report I linked to.

 

[DC]

This thread is about freedom of speech, not FARC compouters. I can see why you want to avoid the report I linked to.

why should i debate you ?
when im wrong i admit it, when you are wrong, like FARC - Chavez evidence, you just runned away after beeing schooled, like you like to say it.

 

[funk de fino]

why should i debate you ?
when im wrong i admit it, when you are wrong, like FARC - Chavez evidence, you just runned away after beeing schooled, like you like to say it.

This thread is not about FARC. I am not debating it here as I have already debated you on it in another thread.

You have gone quiet on the OP. I gave evidence for you and you have run away and continued to participate in a derail.

 

[DC]

This thread is not about FARC. I am not debating it here as I have already debated you on it in another thread.

You have gone quiet on the OP. I gave evidence for you and you have run away and continued to participate in a derail.

there is simply not enough data avaible .

and i long ago stated already what i think about it, if it is 60 minutes max and also if it is more like you claimed.

and oh wonder oh wonder, and once more i disagreed with my alleged hero Chavez.

so i must go for another few days.

60 minutes per week max. not very good, but i think acceptable, should be only for emergencys in my oppinion.

a 7 hour alo presidente on all channels? no way acceptable, but just not following the law is also not smart. but for this i first have to see evidence.

but at the end, its up to the venezuelan voters.

 

[funk de fino]

there is simply not enough data avaible .

and i long ago stated already what i think about it, if it is 60 minutes max and also if it is more like you claimed.

There is lots of data, you just refused to read it and made a fool of yourself and only looked at one page of something I gave you.

Do you think this is fair for democracy in Venezeula for when the time comes for elections to have so much one sided propoganda on the TV??

and oh wonder oh wonder, and once more i disagreed with my alleged hero Chavez.

Read the whole report. The presidential broadcasts are not the only issues they report on.

 

[DC]

There is lots of data, you just refused to read it and made a fool of yourself and only looked at one page of something I gave you.

Do you think this is fair for democracy in Venezeula for when the time comes for elections to have so much one sided propoganda on the TV??



Read the whole report. The presidential broadcasts are not the only issues they report on.

no its not fair, like already said, how many time do you want to hear it?

but when you read the EU commission reports you will note that while the comercials before the elections were polarizing, they managed to keep it pretty fair and balanced, i hope the Venezuelans will be able to manage that again.

and i hope they dont decide based on comercials who to vote for, but by their experiance of the changes they already have.

and for the people that dont want Chavez i hope they find a good alternative to him.
i also hope the situation will be less polarized in future.

i hope you are happy now. good night

 

[McHrozni]

huh? so when the government of Columbia claims to have evidence you belive it.

but when the evidence gomes from a Columbian court, you first want to know what the evidence actually says.

that is very interesting.

You must've missed the part where Interpol claimed the evidence was not tampered with and Columbia shared it with other countries in private.

again, FARC only need to read the Interpol report.

Would you please re-read the stuff you quoted?

yes. also interesting are the parts about dates in the future, or Columbian authorities not following international standards in handlin electronic evidence etc.

Incidentally, I red that part. I find it rather important that the Interpol states this did not affect the integrity of the information. Any idea why that is?

I'll have to agree with funk de fino, though. The mere fact we're still talking about FARC is a derail. Could you please comment on this report:
http://cidh.org/countryrep/Venezuela2009eng/VE09.TOC.eng.htm

McHrozni

 

[DC]

You must've missed the part where Interpol claimed the evidence was not tampered with and Columbia shared it with other countries in private.



Would you please re-read the stuff you quoted?



Incidentally, I red that part. I find it rather important that the Interpol states this did not affect the integrity of the information. Any idea why that is?

I'll have to agree with funk de fino, though. The mere fact we're still talking about FARC is a derail. Could you please comment on this report:
http://cidh.org/countryrep/Venezuela2009eng/VE09.TOC.eng.htm

McHrozni

lol, yeah its better you change topic away from the alleged evidence
i guess you want me only to comment on the parts of the report that are about freedom of press, or it would be just another derail, aint it?

 

[McHrozni]

no its not fair, like already said, how many time do you want to hear it?

but when you read the EU commission reports you will note that while the comercials before the elections were polarizing, they managed to keep it pretty fair and balanced, i hope the Venezuelans will be able to manage that again.

and i hope they dont decide based on comercials who to vote for, but by their experiance of the changes they already have.

and for the people that dont want Chavez i hope they find a good alternative to him.
i also hope the situation will be less polarized in future.

i hope you are happy now. good night

Let's get this straight, are you denouncing the following posts in this thread:
#324, #330, #343, #349, #353, #359, #375, #377, #383 and #390?

McHrozni

 

[DC]

Let's get this straight, are you denouncing the following posts in this thread:
#324, #330, #343, #349, #353, #359, #375, #377, #383 and #390?

McHrozni

quote them, i aint going to look em up thanks.

 

[McHrozni]

lol, yeah its better you change topic away from the alleged evidence

For you maybe, since you had absolutely nothing at all.

Unless, of course, you can prove the stuff you quoted, and allegedly red. That, however, requires literacy, and I doubt many Chavez supporters outside of Venezuela are capable of that.

i guess you want me only to comment on the parts of the report that are about freedom of press, or it would be just another derail, aint it?

It would be a very good start.

McHrozni

 

[funk de fino]

no its not fair, like already said, how many time do you want to hear it?

but when you read the EU commission reports you will note that while the comercials before the elections were polarizing, they managed to keep it pretty fair and balanced, i hope the Venezuelans will be able to manage that again.

This is not about commercials. Its about hours of state propoganda not only on one station but all stations. Remember globo doesnt reach many homes.

Its too one sided.

and i hope they dont decide based on comercials who to vote for, but by their experiance of the changes they already have.

Presidential broadcasts forced on all stations are not adverts.

and for the people that dont want Chavez i hope they find a good alternative to him.
i also hope the situation will be less polarized in future.

i hope you are happy now. good night

So do I.

 

[McHrozni]

quote them, i aint going to look em up thanks.

It's about every post of yours from page 8 onwards in this thread that was longer than half a line. Do you now denounce your previous stance about Chavez entirely?

McHrozni

 

[DC]

For you maybe, since you had absolutely nothing at all.

Unless, of course, you can prove the stuff you quoted, and allegedly red. That, however, requires literacy, and I doubt many Chavez supporters outside of Venezuela are capable of that.



It would be a very good start.

McHrozni

and what parts are those?

 

[DC]

It's about every post of yours from page 8 onwards in this thread that was longer than half a line. Do you now denounce your previous stance about Chavez entirely?

McHrozni

no why?

there are many things i dislike about Chavez, but also alot things i like.

 

[McHrozni]

and what parts are those?

Case in point regarding lack of literacy.

Hint:
IV. FREEDOM OF THOUGHT AND EXPRESSION

McHrozni

 

[McHrozni]

no why?

Because you consistently sought to derail the thread about the lack of free speech under Chavez in Venezuela. Obviously you like this part about him, eh?

McHrozni

 

[WildCat]

no why?

there are many things i dislike about Chavez, but also alot things i like.

Is completely destroying the Venezuelan economy one of the things you like about him?