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David Henson said:
The Law of Moses was a temporary and imperfect law which ended with Jesus, the Christ.
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So we can ditch that whole Ten Commandments stuff now? Because the Christian church sure has! They have hated their fellow man and raped and killed and plundered and coveted and stolen just as much as the next despotic regime you care to name. Still doing it today, as a matter of fact.
 
Zep said:
So we can ditch that whole Ten Commandments stuff now? Because the Christian church sure has! They have hated their fellow man and raped and killed and plundered and coveted and stolen just as much as the next despotic regime you care to name. Still doing it today, as a matter of fact.
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Yes, and the ancient Israelites were no model citizens either.
 
Zep said:
Glad you agree.

Now, perhaps time for you to heed Christ's words: Remove the log from your own eye before you try to remove the mote from mine.
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Oh, now the Bible is good for you to use against me? Anyway, I was just going to leave the mote in yours until you mentioned the log in mine. What log?
 
David Henson said:
Oh, now the Bible is good for you to use against me? Anyway, I was just going to leave the mote in yours until you mentioned the log in mine. What log?
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It was good enough for you to try to use against others, apparently. It also appears to be the only book you will take any heed of. I am only trying to limit myself to the simple language that you limit yourself to. ;)

Your log? Deliberate and supercilious ignorance. The worst kind.
 
David Henson said:
The Hebrew term for woman is ishshah which literally means female man. It can also be rendered wife. The Greek word gyne is likewise either rendered as woman and wife.

Since God is neither male nor female as a spirit is genderless, sexless, and he created both man and woman in his image or likeness, This indicates that certain aspects of the masculine personality as well as the feminine personality are, of course, a reflection of Jehovah God.

Woman was created as a helper for man...
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I think you're taking things too literally. Kabbalah, or esoteric Judiasm sees creation as a lightening flash, with the ineffable God (Kether) producing light ("male") and then matter ("female" - the "womb of creation".) Obviously there would be no stuff in the universe without this limiting, condensing factor, so that's the only reason it's called a "helper".
 
Zep said:
It was good enough for you to try to use against others, apparently. It also appears to be the only book you will take any heed of. I am only trying to limit myself to the simple language that you limit yourself to. ;)

Your log? Deliberate and supercilious ignorance. The worst kind.
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[Laughs] Oh, you mean disagreement! :cool:
 
Aquila said:
I think you're taking things too literally. Kabbalah, or esoteric Judiasm sees creation as a lightening flash, with the ineffable God (Kether) producing light ("male") and then matter ("female" - the "womb of creation".) Obviously there would be no stuff in the universe without this limiting, condensing factor, so that's the only reason it's called a "helper".
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Interesting take on it, thanks for providing it.
 
I'm not here to argue about science; I'm a Bible student, if you can't discuss the Bible and Bible related issues then don't preach science to me instead. Ignore my Bible based posts as I will your science.
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BTW - I think you're in the wrong forum.
 
David Henson said:
[Laughs] Oh, you mean disagreement! :cool:
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Thereby proving my point.

Seriously, your attempt at wrapping all skeptics in the same strawman to attempt a beatdown on them is pretty pathetic. Even more pathetic when you fail at it repeatedly and as a result get your arse handed to you time and again. And even more pathetic when you still continue to pretend you still have da skillz. That is your delusion, right there.

I can only surmise that you have no intention of upholding any serious discussion at all, disagreements or otherwise. I suspect you are here on false pretenses...like trying to "gain points" as part of some religious mission for "taking it to the atheists where they live". We have seen that before.
 
Zep said:
Thereby proving my point.

Seriously, your attempt at wrapping all skeptics in the same strawman to attempt a beatdown on them is pretty pathetic. Even more pathetic when you fail at it repeatedly and as a result get your arse handed to you time and again. And even more pathetic when you still continue to pretend you still have da skillz. That is your delusion, right there.

I can only surmise that you have no intention of upholding any serious discussion at all, disagreements or otherwise. I suspect you are here on false pretenses...like trying to "gain points" as part of some religious mission for "taking it to the atheists where they live". We have seen that before.
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I told you he is doing the cyberspace equivalent of JW doing the doors,they have to do that to book their ticket to heaven.I feel sorry for them,they are in for a big disappointment.
 
dafydd said:
I told you he is doing the cyberspace equivalent of JW doing the doors,they have to do that to book their ticket to heaven.I feel sorry for them,they are in for a big disappointment.
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I beg to differ in one small respect - they aren't in for a big disappointment.

When they die, that will be the end. They will never realize that there is nothing more than this life.

In other words, they will die as they lived - smug, ignorant, and arrogant.

We won't have the satisfaction of knowing that they'll realize how wrong they have been.

Of course, they won't be around to annoy us anymore.

Guess you can't have your cake and eat it, too.
 
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