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funk de fino said:
So are you saying they are lying about how much broadcasts were shown by the govt?

You ask for sources and evidence and then you just handwave it away. The report has sources. You have to prove those soures are no good. I backed up my claims. You have to disprove them. If you cannot then my claims stand.
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more claims are not evidence.
 
DC said:
you decide, there are also reports from EU commissions.
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I do not care. I am not accusing them of bias. You are. You have to prove my claims wrong. You cannot.

Go read the report and look at the sources. OAS is not anti Chavez.
 
DC said:
more claims are not evidence.
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I have supported my claims with a report and sources. You have handwaved it and given nothing except an incorrect claim about 60 mins and forgot about Article 192.

Please prove my sources wrong or my claims stand.
 
funk de fino said:
I do not care. I am not accusing them of bias. You are. You have to prove my claims wrong. You cannot.

Go read the report and look at the sources. OAS is not anti Chavez.
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no i made no claims other than they did not bring up evidence, just claims.

but i am expected to accept claims as evidence here. thats a bit odd, especially on a sceptics forum.
 
funk de fino said:
I have supported my claims with a report and sources. You have handwaved it and given nothing except an incorrect claim about 60 mins and forgot about Article 192.

Please prove my sources wrong or my claims stand.
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well i didnt claims its not true what they claim, it contradicts other claims. and i didnt find any evidence on both sides.

on the other hand you claim now that the 60 minutes limit is incorrect, evidence for this?
 
DC said:
yeah because it makes a fool of you.
you cant be wrong eh, and especially you cant admit it.
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I can admit when I am wrong. Sad thing is you can never show me to be wrong. I showed you up in the other thread about the arms spending and it took you many posts to admit you made a mistake.

Prove my claims wrong about excessive presidential broadcasts and I will admit I am wrong.
 
funk de fino said:
I can admit when I am wrong. Sad thing is you can never show me to be wrong. I showed you up in the other thread about the arms spending and it took you many posts to admit you made a mistake.

Prove my claims wrong about excessive presidential broadcasts and I will admit I am wrong.
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did Interpol confirm the accuracy of the evidence or did they just search for altered files on the electronic devices found?
 
DC said:
well i didnt claims its not true what they claim, it contradicts other claims. and i didnt find any evidence on both sides.
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It does not contradict other claims. Those are different things. I have given you evidence and sources for my clams. You have nothing to disporve them.

on the other hand you claim now that the 60 minutes limit is incorrect, evidence for this?
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Even the quote I gave you explains that. This is two different things we are talking bout. Please try and keep up. The 60 mins is seperate to the article 192 stuff.

Additionally, the information received indicates that in 2008, communications media had transmitted 186 blanket broadcasts (172 hours and 55 minutes), while in July of 2009, there were 75 messages broadcast (88 hours and 19 minutes). The information also shows that on January 13, 2009, the longest blanket broadcast of the period of 1999-2009 was aired, equivalent to 7 hours and 34 minutes. Such figures do not include the transmission of the program Aló Presidente, the ten minutes daily for governmental messages imposed by the Law on Social Responsibility in Radio and Television, or the official publicity that is typical in television or radio
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funk de fino said:
It does not contradict other claims. Those are different things. I have given you evidence and sources for my clams. You have nothing to disporve them.



Even the quote I gave you explains that. This is two different things we are talking bout. Please try and keep up. The 60 mins is seperate to the article 192 stuff.
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you sourced your claims yes, but your source does not prove their claims.
 
DC said:
and non of the candenas were longer than 60 minutes......... not even longer than 50 minutes, no 7 hour alo presidente......
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You did not read the full report did you? You just looked at the first page. Many of them were over 3 hours.

Thats an EPIC fail. I never claimed a 7 hours Alo Presidete so stop with the lies.

My claims stand I have supported them. Try if you can, to disprove them. It helps if you read things I give you it would help you to stop making embarrassing mistakes.
 
Promedio minutos por cadenas = Average minutes per cadenas

ha ha ha ha ha

This is Article 192

Article 192 of the Organic Law on Telecommunications provides the following:

Without prejudice to the legal provisions applicable to matters of security and defense, the President of the Republic may, either directly or through the National Telecommunications Commission, order operators of subscription television services, using their customer information channel, and the operators of open-to-air radio television broadcasters, to carry, free of charge, messages and official addresses made by the President or Vice-President of the Republic or cabinet ministers. Regulations shall be established to determine the mechanisms, limitations, and other features of these transmissions and broadcasts. Publicity by public entities is not subject to the obligation established in this article
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Regulations and limitations?

Where are those?

60 mins is from the link to the other Social Responsibility thing you gave. Two different things.

Article 10 of the Law on Social Responsibility
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funk de fino said:
Promedio minutos por cadenas = Average minutes per cadenas

ha ha ha ha ha

This is Article 192

Article 192 of the Organic Law on Telecommunications provides the following:



Regulations and limitations?

Where are those?

60 mins is from the link to the other Social Responsibility thing you gave. Two different things.
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well im confussed. i dont know whos claims are correct or not.
 
where is the full telecommunication laws in english? can find them only in spanish.
 
DC said:
well im confussed. i dont know whos claims are correct or not.
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It's because you only read the front page and not the whole report. That is very very sad. If you give me something I will read it all. That was a total schoolboy mistake there mate. The report has timings for each broadcast. He made three in one day.

DC said:
where is the full telecommunication laws in english? can find them only in spanish.
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Try a translator for pages.
 
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