A Browne Fan Speaks Up

Here's what I've never understood. If psychics are inaccurate and make mistakes and are only 85 percent accurate or whatever the number is- for the sake of argument, let's pretend there are such things as psychic powers- where does the wrong info come from? Where does "He's dead and the body is buried in the woods" come from? Where do you get that from?

What, someone in the spirit world got Shawn Hornbeck confused with a dead body? They are all powerful, all knowing, can transcend all that's seen and unseen, have a direct line to the divine creator of the universe- but they behave like the post office in a third world nation ?
 
EeneyMinnieMoe said:
Here's what I've never understood. If psychics are inaccurate and make mistakes and are only 85 percent accurate or whatever the number is- for the sake of argument, let's pretend there are such things as psychic powers- where does the wrong info come from? Where does "He's dead and the body is buried in the woods" come from? Where do you get that from?

What, someone in the spirit world got Shawn Hornbeck confused with a dead body? They are all powerful, all knowing, can transcend all that's seen and unseen, have a direct line to the divine creator of the universe- but they behave like the post office in a third world nation ?
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Exactly. And in Sylvia's books she always says she gets her info directly from god. She just "lets go and lets god." Well, her god is pretty mixed up, then, right?

But we now she's just spewing nonsense. And so does she.

Didn't she, after the Hornbeck fiasco, say she must have misinterpreted the message and it was another child she was seeing? But that doesn't work, either. It was Sean's parents she was talking to and reading for. :mad:
 
Agreed. How do psychic powers work anyway? God whispers in Sylvia's ear? Francine tells her where missing bodies are? Dead people do? Dead people in heaven? Ghosts? All of them do?
 
Just as a side-issue RSL, you gotta stop using the turn "a browne fan" - every time I see it my mind goes into the gutter and I end up spitting coffee onto my laptop.

thanks
 
RSLancastr said:
I am a 25 year old norwegian woman, living in Norway.
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This may be attributable to a language difference or a misunderstanding of some kind but where does she think you think Norwegians live? :confused: Burkina Faso? Idaho? The moon?
 
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Yes, skeptics are very close-minded. Lucky we believers just ignore them.

Alex.
 
EeneyMinnieMoe said:
Here's what I've never understood. If psychics are inaccurate and make mistakes and are only 85 percent accurate or whatever the number is- for the sake of argument, let's pretend there are such things as psychic powers- where does the wrong info come from? Where does "He's dead and the body is buried in the woods" come from? Where do you get that from?

What, someone in the spirit world got Shawn Hornbeck confused with a dead body? They are all powerful, all knowing, can transcend all that's seen and unseen, have a direct line to the divine creator of the universe- but they behave like the post office in a third world nation ?
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This is an interesting point. Of course, I'm of the opinion that it's all just wild guesses... ;)

What I've always wondered is... if psychics are inaccurate and make mistakes, and they *KNOW* it, why the Rule Ten do they then say something so horrid to the desperately hoping parents? Let me tell you something. If I had a suspicion that my neighbor's child was dead, but I knew I might be wrong, I would NEVER tell her that her child was dead! In my mind you don't say things like that unless you are absolutely sure. So a psychic admitting that they make mistakes, to me, means that person better keep quiet about things they might be wrong about, especially if it's really important to the person who is getting the reading. They never are quiet though; I've held my tongue many times when someone is looking for a pet dog or something and I'm afraid (but not sure) it is dead, but psychics don't seem to have that same self-control.
 
Skeptics, known to me as people who like to think the worst first and forget the best for last.
 
Monkey Ghost said:
I think that if a person writes a book, they must be telling the truth.
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I read a lot of Tom Clancy...So he's a historian?!?

Man, the world sucks. There's been like, five world wars and fifteen apocalyptic-scale terrorist attacks I didn't know about.
 
JoeyDonuts said:
I read a lot of Tom Clancy...So he's a historian?!?

Man, the world sucks. There's been like, five world wars and fifteen apocalyptic-scale terrorist attacks I didn't know about.
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Reminds me of when I found a David Icke book in the "History" section of a book store.
 
JoeyDonuts said:
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Yes. I complained to the woman behind the counter. She looked at it and said "well, it IS a history book!"

I showed her a page in the book where George W. Bush and the Queen of England were shown to be shape-shifting reptilian aliens from another dimension. She then showed me the place on the book's spine where the publisher had indicated that the book should be filed in "History" and she then explained that the store's policy was to file a book wherever the publisher said it should be filed.

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I have a better story than that. You know where Sylvia Browne's books are in the New York Public Library system? In Nonfiction. As are the books about Nostradamus, ghosts, astrology and UFOs.

I've mentioned it here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88229

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126856


I once told you this, Robert, and said that if it were up to me, I would take them all off the shelves and classify them in the perfect category for them, "Adult Fiction".

You replied "I can't even say where I'd put them!"

:D
 
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EeneyMinnieMoe said:
I have a better story than that. You know where Sylvia Browne's books are in the New York Public Library system? In Nonfiction. As are the books about Nostradamus, ghosts, astrology and UFOs.

I've mentioned it here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88229

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126856


I once told you this, Robert, and said that if it were up to me, I would take them all off the shelves and classify them in the perfect category for them, "Adult Fiction".

You replied "I can't even say where I'd put them!"

:D
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Maybe what Barnes & Noble needs is an Abandon All Hope section. :D They could put Sylvia Browne and all the ghost and UFO stuff over there, alongside Jenny McCarthy, John Edward and David Icke.
 
A good example of a book that was thought to be non-fiction but turned out to be complete fiction was that book Oprah endorsed on her show. I forget the name of it, but she highly recommended it in her book club, had the author on her show, and it was at the top of the NYT bestsellers list, and then it was discovered that the author had made up many of the stories in the book, if not all of them. This is proof positive that it is possible for an author to state a book is completely accurate and real, when it is in fact complete fiction.
 
TheSkepticCanuck said:
A good example of a book that was thought to be non-fiction but turned out to be complete fiction was that book Oprah endorsed on her show. I forget the name of it, but she highly recommended it in her book club, had the author on her show, and it was at the top of the NYT bestsellers list, and then it was discovered that the author had made up many of the stories in the book, if not all of them. This is proof positive that it is possible for an author to state a book is completely accurate and real, when it is in fact complete fiction.
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A Million Little Pieces; James Frey.
 
RSLancastr said:
I received the following email today in my StopSylvia mailbox

It contains permission to publish it, so I thought I would share it here. I have already composed a reply.
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There are two things that come to mind when reading that letter. First, how absurd this quote is "Do you really think Sylvia would have written a book if it was a lie?". Second, that people like Sylvia Browne really do fool some of the nicest most vulnerable people.

Also, didn't Sylvia Browne lie about having a Masters Degree in English from a University that doesn't exist? I know I've read that somewhere.
 
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