9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

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I'm sure you can come up with a list of comedians that did Himmler impersonations. Or can't you?
The attendees surely had no reason to lie about something that would incriminate them and the organisations they served in. We sure should trust those nazis because they had absolutely nothing to gain from lying... :rolleyes:

There was very little to be gained by the Nazi defendants by denying the authenticity of the evidence, mostly the conceded the evidence but they themselves were not personally involved or their role was only a cog between the people who set the policy and the people who carried out the killing. Hence Berger's very tentative denial of the authenticity of the record is unusual at Nuremberg. And as it happens using records and not tape as the recording technology was unusual in Germany.

Anyway, somewhat related to the subject. Do you recall Sefton Delmar?

" Odd sort of chap, Hess," I said. "It might take quite a bit to shock him. I cannot really see him talking to us just because his friend Adolf is being beastly to him. Flattery is the way to the heart of the Nazis I've always found. Make him think we take him terrifically seriously. But best of all would be to give him a shot or two of a truth drug."

" Can't use drugs," said Valentine, who had been a Guards officer in the first war. "That's not done. Not in this country!" and he glared at me, a friendly little glare, as much as to say'none of your continental ruthlessness here, my lad!' "No," he continued, "I have an idea that might do the trick." And he proceeded to outline it to me.

Valentine's war-winner was that we should print a counterfeit page of Hitler's official newspaper, the Volkischer Beobachter. It would be an exact replica of a genuine page taken from the most recent V.B. to come into our possession since Hess's arrival. Except for one item. This item-to be written by me in the best V.B. style-was to contain news that would upset Hess, and bring him over to us. The counterfeit page would then be inserted in the otherwise genuine V.B. and would be presented to Hess with his breakfast at the first opportunity. " I suggest," said Valentine, "that you work out something on the lines that Frau Ilse Hess and her son have been shut up in a Concentration Camp."

I saw difficulties ahead of us. Did we have the right newsprint for the job, and the right type, and the right rotary press? However, who was I to worry about that? I had said my say. So I sat down, and there and then worked out two drafts for Valentine. Neither, I regret, was a masterpiece. But I like to think they were at least written in true German police reporter journalese.

" The Chief State Attorney announces," said the first, "that Frau Ilse Hess, after prolonged and thorough interrogation by himself and Kommissar Dr. Braschwitz of the Political Police has made a complete confession. Frau Hess confirms that she smuggled nerve drugs, believed to be of British origin, into her husband's food. These drugs made Party Comrade Hess subjective to the hypnotic influence of British-inspired German traitors and produced the mental fog in which he flew to England. (For the Volkischer Beobachter Scotland was part of England.) Frau Hess has been transferred to Munich for confrontation with the adjutants of Party Comrade Hess and other members of this sinister ring who are now in secure custody."

For good measure, I added a second item which I suggested might be inserted in the counterfeit of a local Munich newspaper, if we had one available for copying. The local paper's news item, tucked away in an insignificant corner, would report the arrest of two women and a man who had caused a street disturbance on the evening of Sunday, May the 12th, by trying to interfere with the police, as they were arresting a woman and her small boy at a villa in Harlaching. Harlaching was the suburb of Munich where Hess resided with his wife and son. Valentine was delighted. Alas, as I feared, when it came to printing the items, we suddenly discovered that the resources of the department were not equal to the job. Nor was the S.O.i file of German personalities able to give me the name of a police official for the Munich district who would have been more suitable for the job of interviewing Frau Hess than my old Berlin antagonist, Dr. Braschwitz. I made a mental note of these deficiencies and determined to remedy them for the future at least as far as our `black' work was concerned. For a register of personalities high and low and a fount of all the current German types as well as a supply of German-made paper were going to be essentials if we were to have any success in deceiving the Germans into accepting our products. And before many months had passed I had succeeded in laying the foundations for all these things.

But on this day of May the 16th, 1941 we had to confess defeat. Ultimately the item was printed in English in a London newspaper-Hess's English being quite up to reading English newspapers. Several hundred copies had to be rolled off the rotary press in a top-secret special edition in order to get the one copy wanted for Hess. The rest were destroyed-instantly!

In due course the newspaper was served up to Hess with his breakfast. The effect? Not what we had hoped. All that happened was that Hess accepted the bit about the British having drugs which made their victims subject to suggestion. From now on he refused to eat or drink anything unless he had seen someone else taste it first.

Fortunately Hess's highly rational and articulate performance before the Nuremberg tribunal should put paid to any suggestion he was drugged in any form during his captivity.
 
Nope. He tells people he lives in Moscow working as a translator but he lives in Tehran. That's where his mail is sent.

Also you are wrong about his charges. It was about distribution of other peoples work.

Any sources to back these assertions up? Even your ideological palls say he lives in Moscow, the first address in the 'white world' for free speech concerning the H-word:

http://www.antisemitism.org.il/eng/Jürgen Graf
http://en.allexperts.com/e/j/j/jürgen_graf.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jürgen_Graf

And even Wikipedia says: "Graf and his publisher, Gerhard Förster, were prosecuted by a Swiss court for 'Holocaust denial' in July 1998 and was sentenced to a fine and 15 months imprisonment."

Nothing about other 'crimes'.

Matthew no doubt will quietly drop the subject.
 
Yup. No evidence whatsoever. Why, we pull numbers out of our ass!

Exactly right. Hence, at Nuremberg they can pull out 4+ million killed at Auschwitz, and the director of Yad Vashem can confirm the number in 1981. Now that the data is available the actual number is on the order of 100,000 with more Roman Catholic dying than Jews, see

http://en.auschwitz.org.pl/m/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=109&Itemid=8

Those are REAL numbers, not fantasy numbers. See the difference?

Even better, see the Bradley Smith challenge to Yad Vashem, USHMM, and US academia to name ONE person who died in a gas chamber at Auschwitz, with the proof of that claim. No response from the entire hoax establishment.

Better yet, the Nazis investigated crimes in the camp system and prosecuted the perpetrators, google Konrad Morgen Bloodhound Judge for the facts. Compare that to the ZOG administration of the prisons at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo where crime was rampant and there were NO investigations or prosecutions before the media uproar.
 
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Did you just completely ignore the evidence I presented in favour of going off on some other tangent? Yawn.

Also, did you even read the page you linked to?

Franciszek Piper, head of the Historical Research Department and author of the book How Many People Died in Auschwitz, estimates that slightly over 900,000 people were exterminated immediately after arrival, without being registered. The majority of them, almost 900,000, were Jews, the majority of whom professed Judaism. Also unregistered were some 10,000 Poles, 2,000 Roma, and 3,000 Soviet POWs; Catholicism was the religion of the majority of these unregistered non-Jews.
 
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Did you just completely ignore the evidence I presented in favour of going off on some other tangent? Yawn.

Also, did you even read the page you linked to?

Hey, you'll have to excuse me, I must have missed that F. Piper SAID that 900,000 Jews were killed. I mean, how much more evidence do you need :D
 
Hey, you'll have to excuse me, I must have missed that F. Piper SAID that 900,000 Jews were killed. I mean, how much more evidence do you need :D

Ah, so it's 'Real' numbers when it backs your point, but 'fantasy' numbers when they say that Jews were killed en masse. Got it.
 
Better yet, the Nazis investigated crimes in the camp system and prosecuted the perpetrators, google Konrad Morgen Bloodhound Judge for the facts. Compare that to the ZOG administration of the prisons at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo where crime was rampant and there were NO investigations or prosecutions before the media uproar.


Oh you mean Georg Konrad MorgenWP that told this at Nuremberg
Wirth said that he had four extermination camps, and that about 5,000 Jews were working at the extermination of Jews and the seizure of Jewish property. In order to win Jews for this business of extermination and plundering of their brethren of race and creed, Wirth gave them every freedom and, so to speak, gave them a financial interest in the spoliation of the dead victims. As a result of this attitude, this extraordinary Jewish wedding had come about.
Then I asked Wirth how he killed Jews with these Jewish agents of his. Wirth described the whole procedure that went off like a film every time. The extermination camps were in the East of the Government General, in big forests or uninhabited waste lands. They were built up like a Potemkin village. The people arriving there had the impression of entering a city or a township. The train drove into what looked like a railroad station. The escorts and the train personnel then left the area. Then the cars were opened and the Jews got out. They were surrounded by these Jewish labour detachments, and Kriminalkommissar Wirth or one of his representatives made a speech. He said: "Jews, you were brought here to be resettled, but before we organize this future Jewish State, you must of course learn how to work. You must learn a new occupation. You will be taught that here. Our routine here is, first, everyone must take off his clothes so that your clothing can be disinfected and you can have a bath so that no epidemics will be brought into the camp."
After he had found such calming words for his victims, they started on the road to death. Men and women were separated. At the first place, one had to give his hat; at the next one, his coat, collar, shirt, down to his shoes and socks. These places were set up like check-rooms, and the person was given a check at each one so that the people believed that they would get their things back. The other Jews had to receive the things and hurry up the new arrivals so that they would not have time to think. The whole thing was like an assembly line. At the last stop they reached a big room, and were told that this was the bath. When the last one was in, the doors were shut and the gas was let into the room.
As soon as death taken place in, the ventilators were started. When the air coup be breathed again, the doors were opened, and the Jewish workers removed the bodies. By means of a special process which Wirth had invented, they were burned in the open air without the use of fuel.
whose aide was disappeared while investigating Hoess?

Edit: Further link to his testimony in the Frankfurter Auschwitzprozess of 1964 in German here.
 
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Better yet, the Nazis investigated crimes in the camp system and prosecuted the perpetrators, google Konrad Morgen Bloodhound Judge for the facts. Compare that to the ZOG administration of the prisons at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo where crime was rampant and there were NO investigations or prosecutions before the media uproar.

What!? Are you saying that Germans investigated THEMSELVES!? this cannot be true...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Konrad_Morgen

Considered a pacifist by many... Morgen went on to prosecute so many Nazi officers for individual violations that by the following April, Himmler personally ordered him to restrain his cases. Among the people he investigated was the commandant of Buchenwald and Majdanek Karl Otto Koch, husband of Ilse Koch - as well as the Buchenwald concentration camp's doctor Waldemar Hoven, who was accused of murdering both inmates and camp guards who threatened to testify against Koch. He later testified at the Nuremberg trials where he claimed the stories of Koch's fetish with lampshades made of human skin were merely a legend. Indeed, he kept denouncing this while being threatened with beatings and while actually being beaten twice by his Allied investigators after the war.

Darned, it IS true! So this Morgen guy during the war investigated wrong doings of Germans in the camps... Now why would the Germans allow for these kind of investigations? uhhh, I guess that 'gassings' fell out of his jurisdiction but Ilse Koch's dog was prosecuted till Kingdom come. Strange fella's these Krauts.... uhhh... unless of course the Allied story is totally bogus. But that is the beauty of being victorious, you can make up stories unopposed... until this nasty invention of the internet comes along, a useful tool in the hands of those who have an ax to grind.

Question: why was this nice pacifist German beaten twice by the Allies? I mean, he was the good guy! Makes you wonder how often the more robust Nazis types were beaten? Answer: they were not. The notoriously noble Allies used to kick them in their testicles.

Thanks Saggy for another nice item in my future blog, a real gem!
 
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More on Morgen:

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Weberb.html

American soldiers repeatedly beat former SS captain Konrad Morgen in an unsuccessful effort to force him to sign a perjured affidavit against Ilse Koch, a defendant in the US military's 1947 "Buchenwald" case. American officials also threatened to turn Morgen over to the Soviets if he did not sign the false statement. (note 82)

http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/libcamps.shtml

It would be tedious to itemize and refute the thousands of bizarre claims as to Nazi atrocities. That there were instances of German cruelty, however, is clear from the testimony of Dr. Konrad Morgen, a legal investigator attached to the Reich Criminal Police, whose statements on the witness stand at Nuremberg have never been challenged by proponents of the Jewish Holocaust story. Dr. Morgen informed the court that he had been given full authority by Heinrich Himmler, commander of Hitler's SS and the dread Gestapo, to enter any German concentration camp and investigate instances of cruelty and corruption on the part of camp personnel.

As he explained in sworn testimony at Nuremberg, Dr. Morgen investigated 800 such cases, resulting in more than 200 convictions. [9] Punishments included the death penalty for the worst offenders, including Hermann Florstedt, commandant of Lublin (Majdanek), and Karl Koch (Ilse's husband), commandant of Buchenwald.

While German camp commandants in certain cases did inflict physical punishment, such acts had to be approved by authorities in Berlin, and it was required that a camp physician first certify the good health of the prisoner to be disciplined, and then be on hand at the actual beating.


So let me get this straight: the same Germans who allegedly had a massive extermination program going on send Germans to death for attrocities committed against those who were to be exterminated?

How stupied must you be to believe that?
 
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What!? Are you saying that Germans investigated THEMSELVES!? this cannot be true...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Konrad_Morgen

The same Georg Morgen who said:

"It was the usual, tested procedure....A company of unarmed Ukrainian police trainees arrived who formed only a security cordon and had nothing more to do with it; while a single officer holding a small-calibre weapon waited at the end of each trench, accompanied by two or three others to charge magazines and take turns carrying out the executions, so the entire operation was carried out by only a very few police. Meanwhile the camp inmates - 6,000 Jews and 9,500 Jewesses - assembled voluntarily at the near end of the trenches. Here they handed over their personal effects - money, documents, wristwatches, and so forth - while the women and girls removed their jewelry. Husbands and wives, mothers and daughters made their farewells and waited quietly; none were mistreated before execution. When their time came, the inmates undressed and began to enter the trenches, both sexes completely naked and running one behind another in orderly, infinite lines. The men went first, into one trench, and later the nude women had their own separate trenches....All passed silently and methodically through the trenches, so the executions went very quickly."

Anyway, now that you are here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

Auschwitz II.......1,400,000
Belzec..................600,000
Chelmno...............320,000
Jasenovac.............600,000
Majdanek.............360,000
Maly Trostinets.......65,000
Sobibór................250,000
Treblinka..............870,000

Total ca. 4,4M exterminated (well according to Zionist edited Wikipedia that is)


So, are you absolutely sure that these numbers refer to Jews who were GASSED, or do you think they may refer to total death tolls at those camps by all methods?
 
Ah, more derail attempts with Morgen. It seems that he only acted against cases where arbitrary killings took place, and didn't act against official killings, like those taking place in the final solution. As Heinz Hoenhe puts it.

It was an absurd spectable; one or two 'unauthorized' murders of Jews were investigated -- by a whole squad of SS legal experts -- inside the extermination camps where thousands were being murdered daily!

As for his reaction to Auschwitz.

In Lublin and in Auschwitz he suddenly stumbled across the gas chambers and realized that he had been hunting one or two cases of murder in places where millions were being slaughtered. But how did he react to his discovery? The answer he gives today shows that he also suffered from his Reichsfuehrer's schizophrenia. There were at the time, he would have us believe, three types of murder: the officially decreed murder of Jews 'against which nothing could be done because the orders issued from the Fuehrer's Chancellery within the framework of the 'Final Solution' and were given by Hitler himself; the euthanasia killings which were equally official; finally 'arbitrary killings' of prisoners. Only against the third category of murders did he set the SS machine in motion.


Naturally, none of what Morgen did has anything to do with the facts of the Holocaust, but I suppose makes a good distraction for a moment or two.
 
Well, funny that Konrad Morgen mostly did his work against SS goons who embezzled money and valuables taken from the murdered jews. Like the 1kg of gold extracted from the teeth of the dead. Nicely fits with Himmler's mention of having delivered all the valuables of the murdered jews in the Posen speech. Personal gains from mass murder were verboten. Killing Jews wasn't.
And your argument gets really funny when the same violently threatened Morgen a) refused under torture to indicate Ilse Koch which he believed to be guilty of the crimes they charged her with (lampshades and other legends excluded) and b) then relates what he knows about the Endlösung not only at Nuremberg but also 15 years later in Frankfurt.
Bad attempt at argument from incredulity also noted.
 
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So, are you absolutely sure that these numbers refer to Jews who were GASSED, or do you think they may refer to total death tolls at those camps by all methods?

Why should I know for sure what is going on on the twisted minds of the H-word enforcers?

I guess that this is rather uncontroversial:

http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/auschwitz-death-toll-arolsen-1.jpg

Death toll by 'natural causes'. Out of the top of my head I believe some 5000 executions were among them as well.

(There used to be a neater version around of this document but that unfortunately was pulled)

Number of verified deaths by the Red Cross based on the documents of the Germans themselves.

The controversy is that the H-word believers maintain that next to these ackowledged death there is another hidden death toll due to gassings, the same gassings of which Jews like van Pelt en Simone Veil admit that there is no physical proof whatsoever.

But you see, these evil Germans removed every thinkable trace. That's the story now.
 
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And let's not for get the trial of Max Taubner, which verdict reads in part:
E. Klee said:
1. The accused shall not be punished because of the actions against the Jews as such. The Jews have to be exterminated and none of the Jews that were killed is any great loss. Although the accused should have recognized that the extermination of the Jews was the duty of Kommandos which were set up especially for this purpose, he should be excused for considering himself to have the authority to take part in the extermination of Jewry himself.

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But you see, these evil Germans removed every thinkable trace. That's the story now.
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You mean every trace except the transportation records of trainload after trainload who were sent to the death camps and never went anywhere again?

Oh, and testimonies of those involved.

Umm, and then there're the traces of HCN so intense as to have survived decades of exposure to the elements.

Not to mention the surviving reports from the EG detailing who many Jew were rounded up and shot.

Errr, and then there're all those mass graves being verified by the nearbytownspeople as the sites of mass murder, and all those shell casings found near...

But other that that, no thinkable trace. Of course, this just means that all the traces are unthinkable to 9/11, since zie has an overriding ideological need to not think of them....
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You mean every trace except the transportation records of trainload after trainload who were sent to the death camps and never went anywhere again?

The fate of Anne Frank and Simone Veil speak a different language: they entered Auschwitz and left alive. Many others likewise.

Oh, and testimonies of those involved.

Yes testimonies without cross examining. Enter the court room, say your thing and leave the court room.

Umm, and then there're the traces of HCN so intense as to have survived decades of exposure to the elements.

Wow, the nerve! TSR is reversing the result of the work done by Leuchter and Rudolf who showed that real traces of HCN were to be found in the only gas chambers that existed, namely the fumugation rooms.

Not to mention the surviving reports from the EG detailing who many Jew were rounded up and shot.

EG=Einsatzgruppen I presume? TSR forgets to document his statements: links + numbers. Nobody denies the EG rounding up partisans.

Errr, and then there're all those mass graves being verified by the nearbytownspeople as the sites of mass murder, and all those shell casings found near...

I think TSR is forgetting what the topic of this thread is: the 6M figure and gas chambers. Nobody claims WW2 was a picnic.
 
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And let's not for get the trial of Max Taubner, which verdict reads in part:

We are justified in asking whether TSR understands English because if you read the rest of the link something totally different comes out. TSR vilely quotes out of context in the hope that nobody notices:

SS-Untersturmfuehrer Max Taubner is condemned because he lowered himself while applying Bolshevic tactics!

TSR tries to deceive us in thinking that the quote shows us that unqualified extermination of the Jews was SS policy. It does not. On the contrary!

"Although the accused should have recognized that the extermination of the Jews was the duty of Kommandos which were set up especially for this purpose, he should be excused for considering himself to have the authority to take part in the extermination of Jewry himself. Real hatred of the Jews was the driving motivation for the accused. In the process he let himself be drawn into committing cruel actions in Alexandriya which are unworthy of a German man and an SS-officer. These excesses cannot be justified, either, as the accused would like to, as retaliation for the pain that the Jews have caused the German people. It is not the German way to apply Bolshevic methods during the necessary extermination of the worst enemy of our people. In so doing the conduct of the accused gives rise to considerable concern. The accused allowed his men to act with such vicious brutality that they conducted themselves under his command like a savage horde... "

It is clear that this quote refers to the rounding up of partisans, meaning people wanting to kill Germans. This is still a war, TSR. The crime Taubner committed was excess and cruelty. And for this conduct he is punished. Germans have considerable higher standards than Anglo's let alone the Anglo's natural ally: the largest mass-murdering bunch of history, the Soviets.

And you can bet that TSR knew it very well when he made the quote!!

Talking about the difference between the Germans and the Soviets, it is very instructive how general Patton changed his views about the conflict and started to discover the real interests behind the war:

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v05/v05p397_Lutton.html

By the end of the war Patton was expressing serious doubts about the results of the conflict. In a letter to his wife, he confessed: "Berlin gave me the blues. We have destroyed what could have been a good race and we [are] about to replace them with Mongolian savages." And in another letter, Patton admitted: "The stuff in the papers about fraternization is all wet... All that sort of writing is done by Jews to get revenge. Actually, the Germans are the only decent people left in Europe... I prefer the Germans... Patton and Montgomery considered the Soviets to be a serious menace. Both felt it best to carry the war into Russia in 1945, while the Anglo-American ground and air forces were mobilized and on the Continent, rather than wait for some crisis to emerge in the future. Patton was confident that he could be in Moscow within months.

Patton in the end understood that the Jews were calling the shots in Washington and London and started to oppose the anti-German ukazes. Patton died under very mysterious circumstances, probably killed.

In a letter to his wife he wrote: "I have been at Frankfurt for a civil government conference. If what we are doing (to the Germans) is 'Liberty, then give me death.' I can't see how Americans can sink so low. It is Semitic, and I am sure of it."
 
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The fate of Anne Frank and Simone Veil speak a different language
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But see, the thing is: those two *were* documented as being sent elsewhere.

What about all of those who weren't?
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Yes testimonies without cross examining. Enter the court room, say your thing and leave the court room.
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Demonstrably wrong -- the witnesses were crossexamined. Shall we discuss Hoess' cross examination?
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Wow, the nerve! TSR is reversing the result of the work done by Leuchter and Rudolf who showed that real traces of HCN were to be found in the only gas chambers that existed, namely the fumugation rooms.
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Wrong -- nearly half of Leuchter's samples came back positive for HCN, and this after having been randomly diluted twice due to a fatally flawed methodology. Rudolf, after having repeatedly been owned by Richard Green, was reduced to asserting that "[C]hemistry is not the science which can prove or refute any allegations about the Holocaust 'rigorously'."

No, it is not I who is "reversing" the laughable attempts by those two liars, but instead the Krakow Institute for Forensic Research

Krakow Institute for Forensic Research said:
The present study shows that in spite of the passage of a considerable period of time (over 45 years) in the walls of the facilities which once were in contact with hydrogen cyanide the vestigial amounts of the combinations of this constituent of Zyklon B have been preserved. This is also true of the ruins of the former gas chambers. The cyanide compounds occur in the building materials only locally, in the places where the conditions arose for their formation and persistence for such a long time.

In his reasoning Leuchter claims that the vestigial amounts of cyanide combinations detected by him in the materials from the chamber ruins are residues left after fumigations carried out in the Camp "once, long ago"(Item 14.004 of the Report). This is refuted by the negative results of the examination of the control samples from living quarters, which are said to have been subjected to a single gassing, and the fact that in the period of fumigation of the Camp in connection with a typhoid epidemic in mid-1942 there were still no crematoria in the Birkenau Camp. The first crematorium (Crematorium II) was put to use as late as 15 March 1943 and the others several months later.
Seems a rather complete, scientific and historic demonstration of the worthlessness of Leuchter.

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EG=Einsatzgruppen I presume? TSR forgets to document his statements: links + numbers. Nobody denies the EG rounding up partisans.
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Okay: the Jäger report, which states in part:
the Jäger report said:
August 26, 41 Kaisiadorys all Jews, Jewesses, Jewish children 1,911
Every last Jewish citizen of Kaisiadorys, including every child, was a partisan?

Your proof of this?

Then maybe you can explain why Jäger goes on to whine:

I can state today that the goal of solving the Jewish problem for Lithuania has been achieved by Einsatzkommando 3. In Lithuania, there are no more Jews, other than the Work Jews, including their families. They are:

In Schaulen around 4,500
In Kauen “ 15,000
In Wilna “ 15,000
I also wanted to kill these Work Jews, including their families, which however brought upon me acrimonious challenges from the civil administration (the Reichskommisar) and the army and caused the prohibition: the Work Jews and their families are not to be shot!
Funny, he doesn't seem to be talking about partisans there?

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I think TSR is forgetting what the topic of this thread is: the 6M figure and gas chambers. Nobody claims WW2 was a picnic.
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No, the topic is very clearly the Holocaust as a whole. That you try to pretend that only the gassings count is yet another example of your irrational and complete intellectual bankruptcy. And one notes that even though you have acknowledged that your 6M gassed is a lie, you continue to use it.
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