Former Rooski Nucular Intelligence Officer To Blow the Reveal Entire 911 Plot

Bojangles sausage biscuit :cool:

I hates youse.

While I can get away with one of those, their steak biscuit is sooooo much better...

...and twice as fattening.
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You are just trying to kill me with food, aren't you. :mad:

*Sob*... steak biscuit...
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One of members here, Triforcharity, was a NY firefighter and spent weeks at GZ during the cleanup...why does he still have all of his hair and no radiation burns?

Not to mention Mark Roberts led many tours there, and as far as I can tell, he's not wearing a toupee either.

@Elmondo...and why does this pecan pie topped with 2 scoops of "death by chocolate" ice cream that I am eating right now taste so good? (sorry, El...I'm pure evil for rubbing it in.)

And you, you... you... GAAAAAAH!!!
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I wonder what kind of reception the guy EXPECTED on this skeptics forum, considering his extraordinary claims.
 
I think we need to introduce this guy to jammonius so they can both discuss their "theories". Can anyone imagine the two best paid "dis-info" agents going head to head (we could sell tickets). :D
 
I wonder what kind of reception the guy EXPECTED on this skeptics forum, considering his extraordinary claims.

Doesn't really matter. Someone who provides a claim like this:
5) To answer all questions in regard to radiation. I state that radiation levels on the ground zero in Manhattan that were about several hundreds Roentgens per hour during the first hour. Then they dropped to a couple of hundreds of Roentgens per hour and persisted as such for the next few hours, then they dropped to several tens of Roentgens per hour and persisted as such for a couple of days, then they dropped to several hundreds of milli-Roentgens per hour and persisted as such for a few days, then they dropped to several tens of milli-Roentgens per hour and persisted as such for a few weeks. Now the levels further dropped but remain noticeably above the normal radiation background even up to this day. Don’t believe – take your Geiger counter and go to ground zero. And you will see what will happen. Make sure that guards who guard the ground zero will notice you carry a Geiger counter before you enter the site. Then, please, report back to this Forum what happened with you and with your Geiger counter and what kind of discussions you had with the guards.

All statements claiming there was ‘no radiation’ on ground zero would be ignored from now on simply because I know that it was and I know it for sure, but those who make this kind of statements simply googled for such a ‘verifiable’ info or refer to other ‘reliable’ sources akin to the ‘NIST report’ or even the most respectable ‘Report of the 9/11 Commission’. I strongly suggest you don’t ask me about radiation anymore, but simply satisfy yourself with what is mentioned above in this regard.
... and doesn't provide any proof - such as actual measurements, instead of blank assertions as to what the levels were - is going to get lambasted in practically any forum he posts in.

Besides, as is common in conspiracy peddler circles, 9/11 truthers tend to turn on one another when their claims clash. As is the case here; recall that nanothermite pusher Steven Jones said he did in fact go measure radiation levels in New York, and didn't find anything above background:
http://www.journalof911studies.com/...re-used-on-the-wtc-towers-by-steven-jones.pdf

... and I think either Bill Deagle or Ed Ward took their own measurements too, although I'm fuzzy on that memory. If anyone knows for sure, sound off. The point here is that our fantasy peddler here is engaging in BS.
 
Oh... heh... whaddaya know? There was a confirmed, non-truther measurement of radiation at Ground Zero. Sad to say that I had to look up one of my own posts to remember this :o, but OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration for you non-Yanks) did in fact do some sampling:
http://www.osha.gov/nyc-disaster/summary.html

The EPA backs this up too, although I don't know if they did their own sampling, or merely relied on OSHA's measurements.

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Let's recall that the idea of 150Kt nukes being used is in fact not new. I recall that figure (150 kilotons) being given back in 2009, although discussions about nukes at the WTC range futher back than that (here's one from 2008, and we were already responding as if we've seen this before, so there are probably threads even further back than that). And there were insinuations about nukes even before that; here's one from 2007 where the OP doesn't directly blame a nuclear bomb, but rather discusses illnesses in firefighters and implies that it must be tied to radiation. This supposed Russian intelligence officer :rolleyes: may be acting like he's breaking new ground, but the fact of the matter is that he's only recycling old and very tired myths.
 
His whole "Story" is a massive piece of fail. It fails like this pizza of fail does when placed in the oven of scrutiny...

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Enough said.
 
Someone did (not me, I just happened upon that picture awhile back and found it appropriate to both the topic and the food mentioned here in this thread).
 
I think we need to introduce this guy to jammonius so they can both discuss their "theories". Can anyone imagine the two best paid "dis-info" agents going head to head (we could sell tickets). :D

Actually, this is reminiscent of Lily Tomlin's suggestion for what to do with the shopping cart crazies in NYC. "Pair them up. They'd still be talking nonsense to no one in particular, but it'd look like they were having a conversation. And we'd feel so much better."

We could have Jammo and 911th talk on different planes (or plains) and give them their own locked thread. It'd keep them from infecting other borderline crazies and would at least look like we found them something productive to do.
 
Not too many people were treated for acute radiation sickness - there numbers were about 400 to 500 hundred. However, several thousands were treated for chronic radiation sickness that become apparent after 1 to 3 years after working on ground zero due to slow cumulative effect.

The most serious cases were acute radiation sickness with exposure exceeding 300 Roentgens. Outcome - imminent death within first 10 days.

Devices were 150 kiloton. Delivery method - mini railway leading from underneath the WTC-7 underneath of the targeted Twin Tower in special tunnels. All explained in the movie.


There is a description at this site of the effect one 150 kiloton nuclear bomb would have on NYC. It seems to indicate a higher level of destruction than occured on 11/9/01. . . .
 
Okay, so I took 5 minutes of my time to look at one of 911thology's videos, No. 10 in his 26 part series, where he explains how the nuke blasts destroyed each tower. Here is his image of the process:

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He says everything up to 300 meters was dustified, including people, steel, office furniture, etc. People huh? So does Dmitri claim that men from Ladder Company 6 and Engine 39 were never in the towers at the time of the collapse and were never rescued from the rubble? Would he claim that they are liars? Billy Butler, Tommy Falco, Jay Jonas, Michael Meldrum, Sal D'Agastino, Matt Komorowski, Mickey Kross, Jim McGlynn, Rob Bacon, Jeff Coniglio, Jim Efthimiaddes, Dave Lim, Rich Picciotto, and also Josephine Harris. Actually he can't even claim that they are liars because the stairwell still stood for a long time afterwards, regardless of whether it was inhabited or not during the collapse.
 
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I guess we scared the Russian off. :(

It was probably more that he expected people to just be wowed by his claims and not indulge in the pesky habit of asking for real evidence. Saying "it's in my video" doesn't cut it around here, and neither does making baldfaced, unsupported claims. But he just tossed out randomly generated claims and expected an uncritical audience to just accept, or ask softball questions. Typical truther.

I also think he was dismayed at being hit with actual data; recall how he dismissed my posting of Gravy's summary of witness statements by sarcastically telling me to go buy the 9/11 Commision Report (why buy it, I don't know, given that it's frikkin' available for free...). He totally missed the fact that those witness statements were taken from a variety of sources, and not from the 9/11 Commision Report. Which is something he should've figured out had he actually read either the report or Gravy's links.

Note, too, his nonexistent defense of his inaccuracy regarding sonic booms, as well as his complete glossing over of the summary of evidence totally refuting his Pentagon claim. There's a great opportunity to say "No, these witnesses are wrong for this reason", but he chooses to be indignant instead.

Anyway, another case of much heat but no light. Someone who indulges in typical dodges and does his best to keep things unspecific is normally a run-of-the-mill charlatan who has no real evidence.

Mancman or tj15: Are his vids worth a point-by-point refutation, or is it just the same old crud regurgitated? From Mancman's post, it seems like it's the latter.
 
It was probably more that he expected people to just be wowed by his claims and not indulge in the pesky habit of asking for real evidence. Saying "it's in my video" doesn't cut it around here, and neither does making baldfaced, unsupported claims. But he just tossed out randomly generated claims and expected an uncritical audience to just accept, or ask softball questions. Typical truther.
I don't think so. He was even worse than a typical truther.

From his very first post, he seemed to expect what was coming. I think he came here just to count coup. He will now brag of his visit to JREF, where he proved that none were willing to take an honest look at the evidence. His visit here was a marketing ploy from the get-go.
 
I don't think so. He was even worse than a typical truther.

From his very first post, he seemed to expect what was coming. I think he came here just to count coup. He will now brag of his visit to JREF, where he proved that none were willing to take an honest look at the evidence. His visit here was a marketing ploy from the get-go.

I vote for this as well.

He knew exactly what to expect. He'll now get to brag that we didn't even want to listen to him. Watch my video indeed...:rolleyes:
 
It was probably more that he expected people to just be wowed by his claims and not indulge in the pesky habit of asking for real evidence. Saying "it's in my video" doesn't cut it around here, and neither does making baldfaced, unsupported claims. But he just tossed out randomly generated claims and expected an uncritical audience to just accept, or ask softball questions. Typical truther.

I also think he was dismayed at being hit with actual data; recall how he dismissed my posting of Gravy's summary of witness statements by sarcastically telling me to go buy the 9/11 Commision Report (why buy it, I don't know, given that it's frikkin' available for free...). He totally missed the fact that those witness statements were taken from a variety of sources, and not from the 9/11 Commision Report. Which is something he should've figured out had he actually read either the report or Gravy's links.

Note, too, his nonexistent defense of his inaccuracy regarding sonic booms, as well as his complete glossing over of the summary of evidence totally refuting his Pentagon claim. There's a great opportunity to say "No, these witnesses are wrong for this reason", but he chooses to be indignant instead.

Anyway, another case of much heat but no light. Someone who indulges in typical dodges and does his best to keep things unspecific is normally a run-of-the-mill charlatan who has no real evidence.

Mancman or tj15: Are his vids worth a point-by-point refutation, or is it just the same old crud regurgitated? From Mancman's post, it seems like it's the latter.

From what I watched (most of the videos through part 18), he believes the most insane theories of 9/11. He believs in the no-plane theory. He believes a missile hit the Pentagon. And he believes nukes brought down the buildings in the WTC.

Things he MUST believe for those theories to be correct:

1. ALL of the eyewitnesses at the Pentagon are either liars, government paid agents/people, completely wrong in what they saw, ect.

2. The outer walls of the towers managed to survive the nuclear blasts and not get damaged while stuff on the inside turned to dust.

3. The seismic data is fake. He claims the nukes would register 5.7 (I think that's what he said) on the richter scale; 2.1 and 2.3 is what was really registered on the richter scale (correct me if I'm wrong) during the collapses of the towers.

4. ALL of the videos of the planes hitting the towers were faked. This would have to include not only the videos from the news stations, but also people on the streets and in nearby buildings on their personal video cameras.

These are just a few things he must believe...
 
Sonic boom is when the object reaches the sonic speed, not when it flies at surpersonic speeds. Go study physics first. If I am lier than no point to ask me anything. Go read Report of the 9/11 Commission instead.

Wrong again: The sonic boom is a wave front similar to the wake of a boat and is produced any time an object is traveling above the speed of sound. BTW, which mental hospital in Bangkok do you live in?
 

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