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[Darth Rotor]

Why shouldn't I?

Simple:

If God does not exist, you are wasting your time with mental masturbation.

If God does exist, the power relationship between you and God is so unequal that it renders your attempt at judgment ludicrous. The number of orders of magnitude in the disparity is a bit larger than I can grok on short notice.

Imagine an amoeba attempting to hold you to its standards, of any sort. Such an exercise is irrelevant.

The more interesting path of exploration is figuring out how applicable this moral standard is, which you and many others do here with some frequency, and how well humans have discerned, or not, this moral framework.

DR

 

[John Jones]

If God does exist, the power relationship between you and God is so unequal that it renders your attempt at judgment ludicrous. The number of orders of magnitude in the disparity is a bit larger than I can grok on short notice.

That would seem to contradict the claims in Genesis that god made man in his own image, and that eating of the tree of knowledge gave man the knowledge of good and evil.

 

[I Ratant]

That would seem to contradict the claims in Genesis that god made man in his own image, and that eating of the tree of knowledge gave man the knowledge of good and evil.

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Wanna bet you can find more contradictions?
And I for one am quite displeased with my godlike image!
30 frikkin' pounds that won't go away!

 

[Simon39759]

God sure like hid ethereal donuts...

 

[Brainache]

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Wanna bet you can find more contradictions?
And I for one am quite displeased with my godlike image!
30 frikkin' pounds that won't go away!

I suggest a diet of locusts and wild honey. Sweet and crunchy as God intended!

 

[iknownothing]

Imagine an amoeba attempting to hold you to its standards, of any sort. Such an exercise is irrelevant.

If I lectured the amoeba on morality and gave it a handy book as its moral guide, then the amoeba would be within its rights to point out where my behavior falls short and where there are inconsistencies in the book.

 

[Sun Countess]

That isn't the most common pairing up, is it? Why did you choose that age split?

Also, thanks for clearing up how I read your post. Much appreciated.

DR

The age divide may not be a common one, but it helped to show how the lower AOC was being abused locally. The fundamentalist mormon polygamous compound in eastern BC, which has ties to the polygamous compounds in Utah and Arizona, used to transport 14 and 15 year old American girls to marry off to the middle-aged male leaders.

Of course, there were also problems across the country with pimps recruiting very young, very naive child prostitutes, and the parents' hands were tied, since neither prostitution nor sex with 14-year old girls was illegal.

And....you're welcome.

 

[Morrigan]

I think age difference should be taken into account. A 17-year-old shouldn't be punished as a rapist for having sex with a willing 14-year old. I'm not sure what's the current status of the law, though. Do they take age difference into account?

Back on topic; this thread is both funny and sad. The warped justifications for the mass murder and rape in the Old Testament are hysterical. Even more so the assertion that sex between a slave and an owner was "probably consensual". Are you for real??

 

[TimCallahan]

I still have no response from Dave as to whether he sees God as omnipotent and omniscient or if he thinks God is limited in certain ways.

 

[laca]

I still have no response from Dave as to whether he sees God as omnipotent and omniscient or if he thinks God is limited in certain ways.

Yes. If God is omnipotent that means there isn't anything that he can't do, correct? God can't lie.

If God is omnipresent that means he has no central location. There is no need in placing him here or there, correct? God is in hell. God was in the temple of Solomon. God's central location is Heaven. God will be with us in a new Earth.

If God is omniscient he would know everything without having to think about it, correct? God asked Adam, Cain and others what had they done? God sent messengers to see if Sodom was as bad as the complaints against it.

There you go.

 

[TimCallahan]

Show to me, in scripture, where there is any indication that Jehovah God is omniscient, omnipresent, or omnipotent.

Okay, fine. So what the hell is this about?

 

[Hokulele]

Simple:

If God does not exist, you are wasting your time with mental masturbation.

In some cases, this is true. However, when other people are insisting that not only does God exist, but they know what he wants me to do, why shouldn't I use what reason and moral sense I do have to determine whether or not this God-being, as described by them, is moral, immoral, or amoral before I decide whether or not to agree with those people?

If God does exist, the power relationship between you and God is so unequal that it renders your attempt at judgment ludicrous. The number of orders of magnitude in the disparity is a bit larger than I can grok on short notice.

Imagine an amoeba attempting to hold you to its standards, of any sort. Such an exercise is irrelevant.

But I am not an amoeba. Even if I were, why should it matter what the power relationship is before rendering judgement? The United States government and the forces it can command are far more powerful than I, and yet I am encouraged to judge various parts of it regularly.

In addition, if the power disparity alone means I cannot render personal judgement on a being, that is abuse IMHO. It is rather like a teacher taking advantage of the power disparity between him/herself and his/her students to perform any act he/she chooses and reject any judgement rendered by said student.

The more interesting path of exploration is figuring out how applicable this moral standard is, which you and many others do here with some frequency, and how well humans have discerned, or not, this moral framework.

DR

Agreed, in the sense that some moral standard must be defined before God can be held accountable to it.

 

[Mark6]

I think age difference should be taken into account. A 17-year-old shouldn't be punished as a rapist for having sex with a willing 14-year old. I'm not sure what's the current status of the law, though. Do they take age difference into account?

Which country are you in? In US, age of consent varies among states, and some state's laws take the age difference into account, while others do not. It varies quite a bit.

 

[Morrigan]

Canada.

 

[BoogieWoogieWookie]

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Dear David Henson,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) Recently an argument with a neighbor(over the odoriferous bull sacrifice) resulted in a struggle that, after a few minutes of which, I managed to get him in a pretty good headlock. His wife after seeing his predicament ran over an grabbed my privates (Deut 25:11-12) with such force that I was out of breath for a good while! Should I cut off her hand at the wrist or should I aim for a point nearer the elbow?

g) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

h) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

i) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

j) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

k) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.





*Most of the contents originally written by Kent Ashcraft

 

[Complexity]

The Hebrew term for... (snipped for silliness)

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn about the hebrew word for anything.

Nothing but trouble and delusion.

Welsh, now that's interesting. Greek, without question.

Hebrew? Yawn.

 

[David Henson]

Okay, fine. So what the hell is this about?

Isn't it obvious? God isn't omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent or omni anything as far as I am aware. It is a religious idea to avoid having to explain anything would be my guess. Priests get paid and slapped on the back and rape children not answer questions or study.

 

[John Jones]

Isn't it obvious? God isn't omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent or omni anything as far as I am aware. It is a religious idea to avoid having to explain anything would be my guess. Priests get paid and slapped on the back and rape children not answer questions or study.

Do you have some less obvious point?

 

[David Henson]

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn about the hebrew word for anything.

Nothing but trouble and delusion.

Welsh, now that's interesting. Greek, without question.

Hebrew? Yawn.

Edited by LashL: 

Edited breaches of Rule 12 and Rule 0.

 

[David Henson]

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Dear David Henson,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

End of debate? Hmmm . . . in California animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school, or place of worship. The Law of Moses was a temporary and imperfect law which ended with Jesus, the Christ. It applied to ancient Israelites up to Christ. Homosexuality was one of the few things that were continued but only, of course, to the Christian congregation.

The Christian, like the ancient Israelite, had the choice of either leaving Israel or the Congregation or abandoning the practice of their sexual preference.