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Merged bullet hole in the windshield of JFK's limo/ You might be...

How do you think Zapruder faked the film to show the huge spray out the right front of his skull that forced JFK's head to jerk backwards?

And any luck with that timeline where they replaced the windshield before arriving at Parkland Hospital?
 
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1. You can get browser plug ins which will allow you to download youtube videos. Playing them in a player like VLC ( http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ ) will allow you to do screencaps.

2.Don't rely on photos snagged from 'around'-most are at 72 DPI and suck for 'analysis' purposes-blow them up and all you get are blox o' pixels.

I think you're kookoo for cocopuffs but those are a few tips to make your presentations a least a bit easier for others to read....
 
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No, I think you are now desperate to distract from the fact that your witness could not distinguish where the shot came from, and so cannot support your folly.
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I see three motorcycles and they are right near the presidential limo. So, yes this would be used as evidence of shots being near the car. The fourth came from the driver and the fifth from the grassy knoll as a distraction for the driver firing the fatal shot.

Royce Skelton's Warren Commission Testimony (back to the list of witnesses)
(Skelton was standing on the triple overpass)
Mr. BALL - Did you see the President's car turn on Elm Street?
Mr. SKELTON - Yes, sir; I saw the car carrying the Presidential flag turn.
Mr. BALL - And did you hear something soon after that?
Mr. SKELTON - Just about the same time the car straightened up - got around the corner - I heard two shots, but I didn't know at the time they were shots.
Mr. BALL - Where did they seem to come from?
Mr. SKELTON - Well, I couldn't tell then, they were still to far from where I was.
Mr. BALL - Did the shots sound like they came from where you were standing?
Mr. SKELTON - No, sir; definitely not. It sounded like they were right there - more or less like motorcycle backfire, but I thought that they were these dumb balls that they throw at the cement because I could see the smoke coming up off the cement.
Mr. BALL - You saw smoke come off the cement?
Mr. SKELTON - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Where did it seem to you that the sound came from, what direction? Mr. SKELTON - Towards the President's car.
Mr. BALL - From the President's car.
Mr. SKELTON - right around the motorcycles and all that - I couldn't distinguish because it was too far away.
Mr. BALL - How long did you stand there?
Mr. SKELTON - I stood there from about 12:15 until the time the President was shot.
Mr. BALL - How many shots did you hear?
Mr. SKELTON - I think I heard four - I mean - I couldn't be sure.
Mr. BALL - You think you heard four?
Mr. SKELTON - Yes.
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TSR said:
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No, I think you are now desperate to distract from the fact that your witness could not distinguish where the shot came from, and so cannot support your folly.
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You are talking about yourself.:p You have no defense against the overwhelming evidence that supports a shot from the front at the exclusion of every other known theory pushed out there. I made the case now it's up to you put a dent in it and you cannot nor will you ever.
 
7forever said:
You're exactly right. All the evidence points to one man firing the fatal and his name was William Greer. Read his testimony and you will learn for yourself the only possible wound path the fatal bullet took. The bullet entered his right forehead and exited behind his right rear, totally consistent with Greer's angle to Kennedy.
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You can, of course, cite nurmerous witnesses who saw Greer turn around to take this shot?

And why do you suppose his testimony is so at odds with the report of the people actually *doing* the autopsy, especially when doing so would implicate his.

Oh, wait -- his testimony is ambiguous at best (he was, of course, not a doctor or pathologist)

"It came to a sinus cavity or something they said, over the eye."

How could that be, if it came from the front?
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7forever said:
You have no defense against the overwhelming evidence that supports a shot from the front at the exclusion of every other known theory pushed out there. I made the case now it's up to you put a dent in it and you cannot nor will you ever.
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You mean, other than by pointing out that each of your witnesses either directly contradicts your folly -- or at best is ambiguous?
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TSR said:
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You can, of course, cite nurmerous witnesses who saw Greer turn around to take this shot?

And why do you suppose his testimony is so at odds with the report of the people actually *doing* the autopsy, especially when doing so would implicate his.

Oh, wait -- his testimony is ambiguous at best (he was, of course, not a doctor or pathologist)

"It came to a sinus cavity or something they said, over the eye."

How could that be, if it came from the front?
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Because that is exactly what comes from these goons going back and forth about the wound path. He pointed over his right eye and we know that from Specter saying "indicating the right eye". At the end of his testimony he confirms upper right going toward the rear. This excludes the grassy knoll lie that it entered the right temple. Greer took his finger and dragged it from the front to the right rear. It's simple stuff.

Mr. Greer.
I would--to the best of my recollection it was in this part of the head right here.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right?
Mr. Greer.
Upper right side.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right side, going toward the rear. And what was the condition of the skull at that point?
Mr. Greer.
The skull was completely--this part was completely gone.
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7forever said:
Because that is exactly what comes from these goons going back and forth about the wound path. He pointed over his right eye and we know that from Specter saying "indicating the right eye". At the end of his testimony he confirms upper right going toward the rear. This excludes the grassy knoll lie that it entered the right temple. Greer took his finger and dragged it from the front to the right rear. It's simple stuff.
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So Greer forgot that he was the trigger man and implicated himself? And he forgot that the Zapruder film showed the exit wound as it was being created to be to the right front?
 
I'm completely confused by what 7forever is supposed to be proving by posting the same pictures over and over again without any context. Is it just that he thinks "oooo, pretty picture!" or is there some point hidden that I'm not getting?
 
One might, were one the least bit capable, do some work on an image to indicate a point.
Like, say, which way the head went when the bullet passed thru.
The posting of the -same- image time after time is apparently another indicator of the mental instability typical of a CTwinkie.
It's done all the time in the 9-11 crap festering here.
 

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I Ratant said:
One might, were one the least bit capable, do some work on an image to indicate a point.
Like, say, which way the head went when the bullet passed thru.
The posting of the -same- image time after time is apparently another indicator of the mental instability typical of a CTwinkie.
It's done all the time in the 9-11 crap festering here.
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I know. Makes just as much sense there, too. "If I keep showing the same image in every other post, maybe my stance won't seem as crazy as it really is." At least that's what I'm getting from it.
 
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So Greer forgot that he was the trigger man and implicated himself? And he forgot that the Zapruder film showed the exit wound as it was being created to be to the right front?
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Greer may as well just admitted his guilt because the wound path he described was perfectly consistent with his angle towards to Kennedy. The best thing about my research is that it excludes everything grassy knoll and provides the only possible entrance wound.
 
I Ratant said:
Golly, it's almost the anniversary for this one.
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4606050&postcount=106
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Looking forward to having to do the same in 2011.
Fully sentient creatures can make associations between images in various media.. present company excepted of course.
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Robert Groden is one of the evil men in the Kennedy case because he knew/knows just like hundreds of others that Greer fired the fatal shot but covered it up so he could kiss ass with hollywood and the hsca. He would have never got the respect and recognition from either side had he told the truth about the only person who had the angle to create the right rear exit. A big and fun part of proving Greer fired the kill shot is debunking every known theory including the laughable shot from the rear at 313. It would've been a right to left angle but they kinda left that out. Groden had a few things right and this was one of them.

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That there is anyone still droning on about a conspiracy with regard to the JFK assassination is just...sad.

Well, everybody should have a hobby, I s'pose.
 
7forever said:
Greer may as well just admitted his guilt because the wound path he described was perfectly consistent with his angle towards to Kennedy. The best thing about my research is that it excludes everything grassy knoll and provides the only possible entrance wound.
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You may want to review the meaning of the word "research". This site isn't one that will be very receptive to you posting pictures of your low quality video monitor playing a YouTube video and "analyzing" it. I'll give you a fair assessment of your work here: total failure. Sorry.
 
7forever said:
Robert Groden is one of the evil men in the Kennedy case because he knew/knows just like hundreds of others that Greer fired the fatal shot but covered it up so he could kiss ass with hollywood and the hsca. He would have never got the respect and recognition from either side had he told the truth about the only person who had the angle to create the right rear exit. A big and fun part of proving Greer fired the kill shot is debunking every known theory including the laughable shot from the rear at 313. It would've been a right to left angle but they kinda left that out. Groden had a few things right and this was one of them.

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That zig-zag bullet path was the invention of Mark Lane, in his book "Rush To Judgement".
As the first spawner of the CTwinkie mental disturbances re JFK, he deliberately misrepesented the bullet path.
No sane person accepts that foolishness.
The morons that picked up on that and presented it as fact are mentally deficient.
Lane did it to sell books.
Those conspiracy trash authors (one referenced above, BTW) that followed in Lane's trail of slime do it because they're crazy, but crafty, knowing the mental deficiencies of their audience.
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/Lattimer.txt
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Now Senator Arlen Spector, using information generated by FBI testing says this about the Single Bullet Theory.
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http://www.jfklancer.com/SBT.html
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And:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3hIeOPbeYo
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The FBI agents that worked out the SBT are not stupid people.
They have more understanding of ballistics than any X-box player in Mommy's basement ever will.
 
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Richard Trask, in "Pictures of the Pain", a most exhaustive and genuine analysis of the imagery available published this image of the actual path the single bullet took through both men.
I have talked to Todd Wayne Vaughn on Compuserve's Conspiracy Forum in the middle '90s, and found him to be sober and sane on the subject.
This image represents the consensus of opinion of actual researchers, from many different points of view.
 

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Forget how ridiculous and dishonest the picture 7forever posted was; my question is why he put it in a post talking about the fatal shot.
 
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