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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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Hokulele said:
It would also require that DOC actually know something about the topics being discussed. Judging by his arguments, it is pretty clear that all he knows is what has been told to him by a very few sources (and none of those are primary sources). Whenever a question or issue comes up that hasn't been addressed by one of his chosen few, off to Google he goes! The problem is, since he doesn't know any of the stuff himself, his googling is as likely to bring up nonsense (John Boatwright) or disturbing propaganda (the neo-Nazi hate site that came up in another thread) as valid information. Since DOC is apparently unused to research and critical thinking, he cannot, or will not, distinguish between reliable scholarship and any old blurge that he thinks supports his points.

Sad, really.
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More attack the messenger -- actually I have access to a copy of the Jefferson Bible. Jefferson not only took the time to cut out over 880 verses of the NT, but took the time to place the Greek, Latin, and French, translations of those verses next to the English translations. So each page of the 82 page book had an average of 11 verses and each page also had 4 different languages on it.
 
DOC said:
More attack the messenger -- actually I have access to a copy of the Jefferson Bible. Jefferson not only took the time to cut out over 880 verses of the NT, but took the time to place the Greek, Latin, and French, translations of those verses next to the English translations. So each page of the 82 page book had an average of 11 verses and each page also had 4 different languages on it.
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That sounds great:), now how does that make it true?
 
DOC said:
More attack the messenger -- actually I have access to a copy of the Jefferson Bible. Jefferson not only took the time to cut out over 880 verses of the NT, but took the time to place the Greek, Latin, and French, translations of those verses next to the English translations. So each page of the 82 page book had an average of 11 verses and each page also had 4 different languages on it.
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Why did he cut out far far less than he left?
 
Simon39759 said:
I chalk it up to Doc being very poorly read and quite desperate. I agree that, when confronted to an issue is mentors haven't already answered too, he tries to support his knee-jerk statements (rather than, you know, basing this initial opinion on something or even, FSM forbids, admit that it was unsupported and that he might have been wrong) he desperately turns to Google and repost the first thing he can find that somewhat seems to support his views. He then repost it without bothering beyond a very superficial reading, because he is as lazy as he is uneducated on the subjects he pretend to be lecturing people about...
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This supports what I've always said, it seems every time I bring in important info, the attack the messenger modes really heats up.

Your statement is laughable, this thread and most of my others wouldn't even be in existence if I wasn't a voracious reader of books.
 
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DOC said:
This supports what I've always said, it seems every time I bring in important info, the attack the messenger modes really heats up.

Your statement is laughable, this thread and most of my others wouldn't even be in existence if I wasn't a prolific reader of books.
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You can't be a prolific reader. The word does not means 'beaucoup'; it means 'fertile'.
I'd expect not to have to correct somebody as well read as you claim on the use of his own language.

But, he, if you tell me you read a lot (and I mean, beyond Geisler's drivel), I believe you and stand corrected. You're an avid reader. You just have the reading comprehension of a drunken meekrat.
 
DOC said:
This supports what I've always said, it seems every time I bring in important info, the attack the messenger modes really heats up.

Your statement is laughable, this thread and most of my others wouldn't even be in existence if I wasn't a prolific reader of books.
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You havee obviously been reading the wrong books or you would realise you hav brought no important information to this thread. This is not an attack on you it is an attack on the lack of evidence that the NT writers told the truth
 
Lothian said:
You havee obviously been reading the wrong books or you would realise you hav brought no important information to this thread. This is not an attack on you it is an attack on the lack of evidence that the NT writers told the truth
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Thank you for your opinion. And one can read my opinion in post 11054 and the rest of my posts.
 
DOC said:
Thank you for your opinion. And one can read my opinion in post 11054 and the rest of my posts.
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HEY!! IT'S A MIRACLE!! DOC has acknowledged that his worthless crap is his OPINION, not FACT!!

HUZZAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, that does NOT prove anything about Jeebus or the NT writers or anything else in this crazy trainwreck.

ETA: Oops! Been awhile since I've posted. Better lose the Christmas avatar, huh?
 
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DOC said:
Not according to the author of this book:

Misquoting Truth: A Guide to the Fallacies of Bart Ehrman's "Misquoting Jesus" (Paperback)

Timothy Paul Jones (Author)
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I read a few pages of this book; it's complete bilge. He pretty much spits up the exact knowledge in Misquoting Jesus and says "welp, but it's God who did it!" Ech.
 
DOC said:
Not according to the author of this book:

Misquoting Truth: A Guide to the Fallacies of Bart Ehrman's "Misquoting Jesus" (Paperback)

Timothy Paul Jones (Author)
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Oh well, then, Ehrman must be wrong. After all Jones has an Ed.D and is a professor in the School of Leadership and Church Ministry at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and he's written a bunch of non-scholarly books (including 2 on The Da Vinci Code). He doesn't appear to have an advanced degree in theology or textual criticism.

Ehrman's qualifications pale in comparison: a Ph.D. and M.Div. in some podunk school I've never heard of (Princeton Theological Seminary). Sure he holds an endowed chair in the department of Religious Studies at UNC at Chapel Hill and is currently the chairman of the department, but, hey, who isn't? Yes, his area of expertise is biblical and textual studies, but why would that give him any insight into the bible?
 
Simon39759 said:
,,,But, he, if you tell me you read a lot (and I mean, beyond Geisler's drivel), I believe you and stand corrected. You're an avid reader. You just have the reading comprehension of a drunken meekrat.
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And any troll can come in here and say the exact same thing you did without having read 2 posts in this thread.

It seems to me some skeptics are scared to death to let the posts stand on their own without having to add personal attacks to the mix.

If you read a personal attack post (of which there are many in this thread), and you learn zero in the post, guess what, your time just got wasted. In addition to being rude, and showing a bitterness in the person, it is against the rules. But that won't stop some skeptics in this thread from doing it.

ETA: And your use of the working drunken meekrat really hurts your credibility on this site.
 
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Niggle said:
HEY!! IT'S A MIRACLE!! DOC has acknowledged that his worthless crap is his OPINION, not FACT!!

HUZZAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, that does NOT prove anything about Jeebus or the NT writers or anything else in this crazy trainwreck.
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You must have misunderstood what I was saying. I'm saying it is my opinion that post 11054 presents evidence that the New Testament writers told the truth. There are plenty of cold facts in that post.
 
DOC said:
You must have misunderstood what I was saying. I'm saying it is my opinion that post 11054 presents evidence that the New Testament writers told the truth. There are plenty of cold facts in that post.
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DOC, wouldn't you agree that the evidence in this thread against the NT writers telling the truth is about ten times what yours is for them telling the truth?
 
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