There is no evidence for WW II according to holohoax scholar !

[likelystory]

Can evidence disolve away like the original texts of the first written NewTestament Scriptures and so give the Skeptics the delussion that they are correct?.

This thing called scientific proof is not all that it's cracked up to be.

 

[TokenMac]

Can evidence disolve away like the original texts of the first written NewTestament Scriptures and so give the Skeptics the delussion that they are correct?.

This thing called scientific proof is not all that it's cracked up to be.

The evidence proving your veiw disappeared? Then what are you basing your claims on?

 

[abenja1]

Seeing 9/11 Investigator's continous burial of himself is so hilarious watching.

 

[lionking]

Seeing 9/11 Investigator's continous burial of himself is so hilarious watching.

That he has a few mates helping him shovel is even more delicious.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Are there documents saying they were put on trains somewhere, from which there is no evidence they ever went anywhere else? Was the somewhere a place where there was a mountain of evidence that they were killed, including testimony from those that did the killing?

The idea that 400k were killed and cremated in a time span of a few weeks is thoroughly debunked by the airphotos made by the allies themselves. There should have been long lines before the 'gaschambers', there should have been smoke columns, nothing like that is to be seen from these photo's.

I did not happen.

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html

The most reasonable explanation is that they were dispersed all over Germany to meet labour demand. My own father was being moved around in this manner all the time. No documents exist from that event either.

 

[VonKleist]

Oh, there is zero documentation about what happened all my class mates from my Dutch kindergarten.

I did not happen.

Awesome.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Seeing 9/11 Investigator's continous burial of himself is so hilarious watching.

abenja1 is congratulating himself in order to mask that he has nothing of substance to add to the discussion, let alone providing us with proof of what happened to the Hungarian Jews.

Talking about gaschambers, this was posted this morning on the site of the largest Dutch newspaper:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/digitaal/6398091/__Facebook-vrienden_Nazi-slachtoffertje__.html?p=16,1

The story is about a little 6 year old Polish Jews named Henio Zytomirski who has 5000 friends on Facebook. Small detail: the little boy was born in 1933. Says the Telegraaf:

"Een joods jongetje dat tijdens de Tweede Wereldoorlog is omgekomen in een gaskamer in Polen, heeft tegenwoordig bijna vijfduizend vrienden op netwerksite Facebook. "

Translation: "a little Jewish boy who died in a gaschamber in Poland now has 5000 friends on facebook".

Then the article continues: "Henio Zytomirski stierf in 1942 in het oostelijke naziconcentratiekamp Majdanek, het grootste concentratiekamp na Auschwitz. Volgens schattingen zouden ongeveer 80.000 gevangenen hier zijn omgekomen, vooral door honger, ziekte, kou en uitputting."

Short translation: "the boy died in Majdanek, the largest concentrationcamp after the Schwitz. According to estimations ca. 80,000 prisoners are said to have died here, mainly because of hunger, sickness, cold and exhaustion."

Uhh, pardon me... if most died from non-homocidal causes how does the Telegraaf know that Henio died in a gaschamber?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majdanek_concentration_camp

It is interesting to learn how the numbers of Majdanek have come down through the years, starting with 1.5M to indeed 80,000 now, incl. 50,000 Jews.

But the 6M figure remains sacrosanct.

Unless somebody comes up with better arguments (dudalbs lame attempt to convert the butter rationing of dr. Mergerle into proof of 1M gassed is not good enough) I stay with bishop Williamson who says that maybe ca. 200,000 Jews died in the camps in total, none in the gaschambers and most from sickness (typhus, hence the zyklon-B) and exhaustion. 200,000 is still a lot but it is in the order of magnitude of Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima or Nagasaki. The difference is: the killings in the towns mentioned was intentional, the deaths in the camps not (really).

 

[9/11-investigator]

Awesome.

I am glad that I was able to at least convince garethdjb.

 

[9/11-investigator]

You show a picture of a bone crusher which fell out of use in the 1880's, and this somehow proves the nazis would have used a similar design 60 or more years later. Maybe they didn't have a waterwheel nearby.

Maybe not. But uh... spass beiseite... do you have any proof that the device discussed here was used to crush human bones?

See?

 

[9/11-investigator]

Are there documents saying they were put on trains somewhere, from which there is no evidence they ever went anywhere else?

No idea. It is up to the accuser, that is you, to come up with this sort of evidence. But maybe that in that neo-Soviet-Union of yours it is no longer necessary to provide evidence when you can resort to water-boarding.

So you want to be the leader of the West?

 

[9/11-investigator]

There will be school records from later grades, not to mention employment records. Just because you don't have that documentation doesn't mean it is nonexistent.

You understand that, right?

Very well. Go look for that documentation and come back once you found it so you can back up your baseless self-serving accusations.

You understand that, right?

 

[VonKleist]

I stay with bishop Williamson

Less than a minute in, Williamson says that the evidence is strongly against 6 million Jews being gassed in gas chambers. I agree entirely. But no-one is claiming that.

You do indeed 'stay with Williamson' as you said on page one of your other thread:

So here is my request to the local Israel-Lobby here on this forum (dudalb, dtugg, parky, finewine and a few hundred more): demonstrate to me that 6 million people were gassed in WW2 under the Nazis.

and

You claim that 6 million jews where gassed. Prove it.

No serious historian is claiming 6 million Jews were gassed. Why fanboys keep coming up with this is beyond me. Is it ignorance or mendacity?

 

[9/11-investigator]

Less than a minute in, Williamson says that the evidence is strongly against 6 million Jews being gassed in gas chambers. I agree entirely. But no-one is claiming that.

You do indeed 'stay with Williamson' as you said on page one of your other thread:

and

No serious historian is claiming 6 million Jews were gassed. Why fanboys keep coming up with this is beyond me. Is it ignorance or mendacity?

OK, OK, I already admitted repeatedly my mistake (a typo really) that indeed nobody claims that 6 million were gassed. Rather it is something like 4 million, I believe that you believe were gassed. Correct me if I am wrong about your beliefs.

But you are nitpicking because the bishop is sticking his neck out and comes up with a positive figure, 200,000 I believe (not going to watch the video again).

As a working hypothesis, for the moment, until you prove me wrong, I am assuming 0 people gassed (plus or minus one). Oh and if you can show that at least one person was gassed (with name and proof) than please tell me, so I return to my previous hobby: fishing.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Very well. Go look for that documentation and come back once you found it so you can back up your baseless self-serving accusations.

You understand that, right?

You do realize that your assertion that these records do not exist is baseless, right? Surely you can show that you've requested some form of documentation and been met with an official "no such documentation exists" from the Dutch government or various organizations.

Besides, I doubt I'm privvy to the education and employment records of a foreign citizen.

 

[ddt]

Oh, there is zero documentation about what happened all my class mates from my Dutch kindergarten. You know what, they must have been gassed! All of them.

Apart from the documentation that exists - civil registry records, tax records, and so on - you could look them op on schoolbank.nl and meet with them.

 

[Oystein]

Hmmm, then where did the NWO have my plane land two weeks ago, and where was I actually born if my birth certificate is wrong? Kenya?

Oh you consider your birth certificate proof of your birth in Winnipeg? Right! hahaha You've been fooled! There is no Winnipeg, and there was no birth. I bet you the rest of my Nutella jar that in reality you have not the slightest bit of physical evidence for your birth! Because, in fact, you were created in the image of god at the apparent age of 30 months.

Now go and disprove that!

Oh and Saggy: You may also try to convince me with physical evidence that you were ever born.
No, I will not accept any documents - those were hidden for decades (i.e., I have never seen them before), so they must obviously be faked.

 

[abenja1]

abenja1 is congratulating himself in order to mask that he has nothing of substance to add to the discussion, let alone providing us with proof of what happened to the Hungarian Jews.

Talking about gaschambers, this was posted this morning on the site of the largest Dutch newspaper:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/digitaal/6398091/__Facebook-vrienden_Nazi-slachtoffertje__.html?p=16,1

The story is about a little 6 year old Polish Jews named Henio Zytomirski who has 5000 friends on Facebook. Small detail: the little boy was born in 1933. Says the Telegraaf:

"Een joods jongetje dat tijdens de Tweede Wereldoorlog is omgekomen in een gaskamer in Polen, heeft tegenwoordig bijna vijfduizend vrienden op netwerksite Facebook. "

Translation: "a little Jewish boy who died in a gaschamber in Poland now has 5000 friends on facebook".

Then the article continues: "Henio Zytomirski stierf in 1942 in het oostelijke naziconcentratiekamp Majdanek, het grootste concentratiekamp na Auschwitz. Volgens schattingen zouden ongeveer 80.000 gevangenen hier zijn omgekomen, vooral door honger, ziekte, kou en uitputting."

Short translation: "the boy died in Majdanek, the largest concentrationcamp after the Schwitz. According to estimations ca. 80,000 prisoners are said to have died here, mainly because of hunger, sickness, cold and exhaustion."

Uhh, pardon me... if most died from non-homocidal causes how does the Telegraaf know that Henio died in a gaschamber?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majdanek_concentration_camp

It is interesting to learn how the numbers of Majdanek have come down through the years, starting with 1.5M to indeed 80,000 now, incl. 50,000 Jews.

But the 6M figure remains sacrosanct.

Unless somebody comes up with better arguments (dudalbs lame attempt to convert the butter rationing of dr. Mergerle into proof of 1M gassed is not good enough) I stay with bishop Williamson who says that maybe ca. 200,000 Jews died in the camps in total, none in the gaschambers and most from sickness (typhus, hence the zyklon-B) and exhaustion. 200,000 is still a lot but it is in the order of magnitude of Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima or Nagasaki. The difference is: the killings in the towns mentioned was intentional, the deaths in the camps not (really).

HHHAAAH. Oh I've got the proof. It's just tha you won't believe it. Cause your "facts" are based on your opinion. Unless you agree with it, it's not true. I can tell you do the same thing with 9/11 and probably every other historical incident. This is you in a nutshell: "I don't agree with your evidence, therefore it is not true."

Tell me Mr. I believe in the Constitution, do you believe Jews should have rights protected by the Constitution?

 

[Oystein]

Excellent idea. Before you predictably make a fool of yourself read this first:

http://special.codoh.com/archive/12.html

Oh, there is zero documentation about what happened all my class mates from my Dutch kindergarten. You know what, they must have been gassed! All of them.

Untrue.

There is in fact lots and lots of documentation about all of your class mates, you just have not made any effort to find it.

However, in the case of the 400k Hungarian Jews, this effort has been made - by all sides, and everybody came up empty.
And then you DO have documentation that enormous efforts were made to cargo millions of humans to a few camps, and efficiently burn them.

 

[Oystein]

...The holocaust is used by the ruling 'elites' of the West to bring down the racial fabric of European civilization. If you destroy that racial fabric you create a new West as one big Detroit.
...
Again, me ... am not in the least interested in national-socialist ideology or in it's revival...

Am I alone in spotting the contradiction?

 

[9/11-investigator]

You do realize that your assertion that these records do not exist is baseless, right?

I do not say that. It is up to you to show them to us. And as long as you can not, stop blaming the Germans for something they did not commit.

Surely you can show that you've requested some form of documentation and been met with an official "no such documentation exists" from the Dutch government or various organizations.

Besides, I doubt I'm privvy to the education and employment records of a foreign citizen.

Why should I do your job?
You accuse, you prove.
(Proof obtained by waterboarding does not count)