The NTSB don't investigate crimes?

Edx

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I remember someone here saying that, can anyone expand?

If thats wrong, in what capacity were the NTSB involved with the 911 investigations?
 
The NTSB and the FBI usually go hand in hand to major airplane crash scenes with the NTSB in charge until the DOJ deems the crash a possible crime scene. At that point the FBI takes the lead and the NTSB assists as requested. That's usually for tasks like decoding the black boxes and other things that the FBI doesn't have specialists in.

On 9/11 it was immediately apparent that it was a crime scene based upon the earlier incidents of the day so the NTSB never took the lead, they did however go straight to the crash scene to assist as needed.

The NTSBs job is to determine the cause of an accident so that it can hopefully be prevented in the future. 9/11 was no accident, there weren't any failures either procedurally or mechanically. The planes performed as designed until some nutjobs decided to fly them into things at a high rate of speed.
 
Edx said:
I remember someone here saying that, can anyone expand?

If thats wrong, in what capacity were the NTSB involved with the 911 investigations?
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From the horse's mouth:

Investigations Involving Criminal Activity

In cases of suspected criminal activity, other agencies may participate in the investigation. The Safety Board does not investigate criminal activity; in the past, once it has been established that a transportation tragedy is, in fact, a criminal act, the FBI becomes the lead federal investigative body, with the NTSB providing any requested support.

One example would be the crash of a Pacific Southwest Airlines flight in San Luis Obispo, California on December 7, 1987. All 43 persons aboard died in the crash of the Bae-146. Because of information conveyed over the radio by the flight crew shortly before the crash, the FBI instituted its own investigation, parallel to the Safety Board's investigation, to determine if a crime had been committed. Within days, it was learned that a former employee of the airline had boarded the plane with a gun and, while the plane was in cruise flight, had shot the flight crew, causing the aircraft to crash. When that was made evident, the FBI assumed control of the investigation.

More recently, on September 11, 2001, the crashes of all four airliners were obviously the result of criminal actions and the Justice Department assumed control of the investigations. The NTSB provided requested technical support.

As the result of recent legislation, the NTSB will surrender lead status on a transportation accident only if the Attorney General, in consultation with the Chairman of the Safety Board, notifies the Board that circumstances reasonably indicate that the accident may have been caused by an intentional criminal act.
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Source: NTSB- Investigative Process
 
I read somewhere once that the NTSB was interested in the performance of the aircraft from United 93 due to the extreme strain placed on the aircraft prior to crash. Of course that would have relevancy beyond the crime.
 
Great thats what I thought, thanks for the confirmation.

And Travis that would be interesting to find out.

(btw the NTSB website sucks)
 
DGM said:
How so (just out of curiosity)?

You can always send them suggestions as to how they can make it better.
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Main page doesn't look too bad, but the other pages look a bit amateurish and unkempt.
 
Edx said:
Main page doesn't look too bad, but the other pages look a bit amateurish and unkempt.
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Take control of the NTSB, but please keep costs down. Make it better, make it cost less. If you think the NTSB is bad, go to ATT and see if you can find a monitor or status page for your DSL.

911 truth has a problem with "NTSB does accidents", "FBI does crime". When a cause of a crash is known and done on purpose, the NTSB is done. 19 terrorists flying planes into buildings, and it took minutes to figure out for Passengers on Flight 93, 911 truth is short on logic and brains to figure out anything about 911; failing for 8 years and looks like forever is their end game.
 
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