H.a.a.r.p

[EHocking]

I just did, thanks =]

No.

I just did.

 

[rorylee]

No.

I just did.

And i did my own research. Like i said Thanks =]

 

[Nosi]

is there anything that you reckon you could have done better yourself?

 

[Andrew Wiggin]

OK, an actual on-topic post.

I'm wondering why conspiracy theorists always point at Project HAARP as being some shadowy, gub'mint conspiracy driven earthquake machine, when Project HARP was a much better canidate for secret government earthquake machine. makes me think their google-fu is weak, and they can't keep track of their 'A's. For starters, project HARP really was secret, at least for a while. Second, it really did cause earthquakes, at least in a small scale, local sense, and initially the gub'mint kept that secret to avoid having to pay out repair money to the citizens of Barbados, who got good and tired of asking why the their window glass, concrete foundations, and ceramic toilets kept cracking.

Finally, Project HARP gave rise to lots of government nastiness, ending in a mossad assasination, as it advanced the career of Gerald Bull the ballistics genius to the point where he could sell his skills to the highest bidders, who turned out to be South Africa, and Iraq.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_HARP

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[Toke]

I think the problem with HARP from a conspiracy standpoint is that it is more or less understandable without a high school education. It just fires bullets, there are no mysterious rays or effect on the ionosphere to build superstitious stories on.

 

[Andrew Wiggin]

Yah. Nothing subtle about the HARP cannon. I wish it had seen more success though. The ability to orbit payloads by gun, for pennies rather than thousands a pound would have been interesting. For one thing, it would make building and supplying a space station a lot cheaper. Put the builders up by rocket because they're delicate, then shoot their raw materials up to them.

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[rorylee]

Indeed nothing subtle about that

I just got linked to a page that has some cool stuff on it, funny enough the guy was taking about the New World order and the Illuminati. But i ended up following some links and got to a HAARP page =]

Now there always gonna be a pulse before every earthquake, and there is a couple earthquakes that happen a couple weeks ago with no pulse before it, Why?
Besides the Obvious acoustic waves generated before and during an earthquake, a part of the preparation process of large earthquakes is the generation of electromagnetic emissions (EMEs) These EMEs have been detected in the ionosphere up to six days prior to a large earthquake.

Sources : http://www.cleanairandwater.net/haarp-secret-weapon.html


I'd be interested to hear these bangs he speaks of before a 'natural disaster' event occurs, as well as seeing the rainbow effect in the sky. Talks a bit also about Australia and the dust storms/earthquakes we've had here which is very unusual for us.

H.A.A.R.P LF and HF radio beams powered by billion's watts with chemtrails using large amounts of Barium, Boron, Iron, Manganese, Copper, Zinc and silver iodide, - changing the ionosphere are killing migratory birds by the millions. 150,000 birds killed, in West Australia. Chemtrails with H.A.A.R.P has damaged the world's magnetic field which animals and birds rely on for existence. BIRDS ON THE WING THAT DRINK THIS CLOUD WATER FILLED WITH HEAVY METALS ARE BEING DESTROYED BY THE 10's THOUSANDS.

Sources : Clean Air and Water
Dailymail.co.uk

Applications discussed in the patents included destroying missiles, communication control and disruption were included. There were some other ideas both to possibly modify weather and finally to, lift a proportion on the upper atmosphere further out into space, where hopefully it would be able to deflect missile projectiles. 5:25 in below video.

HAARP can create some of the effects the sun creates that are similar to aura borealis. HAARP can paint designs in the sky if you will. You can take the beam and move it in any pattern the scientist may want to do. 7:07 in video with some awesome examples.

Sources : http://www.cleanairandwater.net/haarp-secret-weapon.html

Weather manipulation may be possible by building an ionospheric heater a thousandfold more powerful than HAARP. Differential heating of areas of the atmosphere could induce local weather conditions, such as floods or droughts, useful to the military. Smooth seas might suddenly be raked by treacherous squalls, creating or denying a tactical advantage.

Other elements that will be installed at the HAARP facility include a 120-foot diameter incoherent-scatter radar dish, a Laser Detection and Ranging Device (LIDAR), a magnetometer, and other optical and infrared instruments designed to analyze low-level light emissions induced in IRI-heated regions of the ionosphere. In all, HAARP's assemblage of transmitters, receivers, computers, and advanced signal-processing methods places it on the cutting edge of high-energy radio-physics research.

Source : http://arcticcircle.uconn.edu/VirtualClassroom/HAARP/acf.html

History Channel Documentary Validates Chemtrails and Weather Warfare-Airs July25 4pm 2009


Someone who has studied clouds, flown planes and so on might be able to comment on this video about HAARP clouds, tell the difference between Natural clouds and HAARP made.


Rain water tested and not safe, when it comes to heavy metals.

We are surrounded by air that contains both positive and negative ions. By breathing in different ratios of ions; animals, insects, fish and people are greatly affected both physically and mentally. The full moon increases positive ion ratios, which accounts for the strange and aggressive behavior noted by Police and medical services. Studies show that 75% of the population is noticeably and adversely affected by positive ion ratios, while increased negative ions tend to have a calming influence on these same people.

SuperForce.com has shown with a special ion ratio algorithm capable of predicting these expected ion ratios months in advance that ion ratios also have a major influence on stock market mentality in that increased positive ion ratios generally reflect increased stock markets, while increased negative ion ratios coincide with decreasing markets. Positive ions cause irrational behavior (greed) and negative ions lead to level headed decisions (caution).

This storm peaked quickly but had not fully dissipated by the end of the week, while negative ion ratios returned to normal the positive ion ratios were still increased substantially from normal.

Then beginning on Monday Oct 1st, 2001 the storm returned at precisely 9:30 AM (the same time the major U.S. stock Markets open!) Positive ions increased while negative decreased! Two extreme geomagnetic storms in two weeks that both started at precisely the time the Stock Markets opened for the week, wow what a coincidence.

According to literature by Silent Sounds , Inc. , it is now possible , using super computers , to analyse human emotional EEG patterns and replicate them, then store these "emotion signature clusters" on another computer and , at will , "silently induce and change the emotional state in a human being, See US Patent

Sources: http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/site/HAARP.html
http://www.superforce.com/email-releases/HAARP.htm

 

[EHocking]

Indeed nothing subtle about that

I just got linked to a page that has some cool stuff on it, funny enough the guy was taking about the New World order and the Illuminati. But i ended up following some links and got to a HAARP page =]

Sources : http://www.cleanairandwater.net/haarp-secret-weapon.html


I'd be interested to hear these bangs he speaks of before a 'natural disaster' event occurs, as well as seeing the rainbow effect in the sky. Talks a bit also about Australia and the dust storms/earthquakes we've had here which is very unusual for us.

Again, if you did some research you would find that neither are very unusual for Australia.

The guy is just spouting of unscientific conspiracy theory dribble.

There is nothing to any of his opinions - I suggest you try a little critical thinking rather than just believing everything you come across on the internet.

ETA: Is it me, or does he start to talk like Davros as he gets more excited and starts foaming at the mouth?

 

[rorylee]

an opinion made 5 mins after my post? when there is atleast 30+ mins of watching and an hour of reading?

 

[EHocking]

an opinion made 5 mins after my post? when there is atleast 30+ mins of watching and an hour of reading?

5mins into the vid and he demonstrates that he is talking bollocks. The rest of the video is an unscientific rant about global warming.

His opening gambit about chemtrails should have been sufficient for you to see that he's an unscientific rube.

None of his articles on any the subjects on his site has any basis in science.

 

[rorylee]

5mins into the vid and he demonstrates that he is talking bollocks. The rest of the video is an unscientific rant about global warming.

His opening gambit about chemtrails should have been sufficient for you to see that he's an unscientific rube.

None of his articles on any the subjects on his site has any basis in science.

Mmm i dont know where you are looking, but it seems its with eyes of denial. Its all over the place, however i think science failed explaining on the 150,000* birds dropping out of the sky and thousands of whales beaching themselves.

 

[EHocking]

Mmm i dont know where you are looking, but it seems its with eyes of denial. Its all over the place, however i think science failed explaining on the 150,000* birds dropping out of the sky and thousands of whales beaching themselves.

Your logic is wrong.
Just because this guy says that science cannot explain something to the satisfaction of his consiracy theory mentality does not prove his conspiracy theory that HAARP and the illumanati caused it.

ETA: His figure of 150,000 birds is not supported by the newspaper sources he quotes, similarly, science discounts "HAARP created" storms as, "Wildlife officials from Western Australia's Department of Environment and Conservation said they were baffled by the "catastrophic event" but emphasised the deaths had nothing to do with a severe storm which recently struck the area, as the birds had started dying before then."

 

[EHocking]

I'd be interested to hear these bangs he speaks of before a 'natural disaster' event occurs, as well as seeing the rainbow effect in the sky. Talks a bit also about Australia and the dust storms/earthquakes we've had here which is very unusual for us.

Again, if you did some research you would find that neither are very unusual for Australia....

Rorylee, I notice you snipped this from your reply to me.

Please provide scientific cites that support the opinion that recent dust storms and earthquakes are very unusual for Australia, or show an unusual trend.

 

[LandR]

Rory, you need to find better sources for your information.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

Mmm i dont know where you are looking, but it seems its with eyes of denial. Its all over the place, however i think science failed explaining on the 150,000* birds dropping out of the sky and thousands of whales beaching themselves.

So now instead of the God of the gaps we have...

 

[LandR]

What happened to these thousands of beached whales ??

Because that's a lot of whale to dispose of.

 

[rorylee]

Your logic is wrong.
Just because this guy says that science cannot explain something to the satisfaction of his consiracy theory mentality does not prove his conspiracy theory that HAARP and the illumanati caused it.

ETA: His figure of 150,000 birds is not supported by the newspaper sources he quotes, similarly, science discounts "HAARP created" storms as, "Wildlife officials from Western Australia's Department of Environment and Conservation said they were baffled by the "catastrophic event" but emphasised the deaths had nothing to do with a severe storm which recently struck the area, as the birds had started dying before then."

I dont care for logic, logic has nothing to do with anything.

So because this does not satisfy your needs, you'll turn the head also just like him?

And yes 'Had nothing to do with a severe storm which recently struck the area, as the birds had started dying before then.' Put 1 and 2 together there with some of the other 'opinions' his seemed to research quite thoroughly before putting himself of the net and worried about getting his videos removed as some already have is: chemtrails in the air before the storm & the magnetic field.

 

[LandR]

I dont care for logic

We know.

 

[Sideroxylon]

I dont care for logic, logic has nothing to do with anything.

So because this does not satisfy your needs, you'll turn the head also just like him?

And yes 'Had nothing to do with a severe storm which recently struck the area, as the birds had started dying before then.' Put 1 and 2 together there with some of the other 'opinions' his seemed to research quite thoroughly before putting himself of the net and worried about getting his videos removed as some already have is: chemtrails in the air before the storm & the magnetic field.

Could you define logic for us with examples? Why do you see it as irrelevant?

 

[rorylee]

Rorylee, I notice you snipped this from your reply to me.

Please provide scientific cites that support the opinion that recent dust storms and earthquakes are very unusual for Australia, or show an unusual trend.

First hand experience, since i can remember unless my mind is just blocking a memory i cant recall, any dust storms moving across 3 maybe 4 states in Australia and looking like blood.

And again hearing about earthquakes in Australia is very rare and not usual, there were 2 or 3 in Melbourne last year after a massive bush fire in South Australia and droughts, with a flood at the top of Queensland. It is very unusual just ask any Australian, as i take it you're not one. Anyway that wasn't the point, but nice side track.