Proof that 9/11 Truthers Are Dangerous and are a Threat against george bush

And Sabrina, no , you are acting more as a Commission Report lawyer than anything else. This is what YOU think they're left wtc7 alone. Don't use your opinion as to build up an ad hom attack in the end of the post, I'm hardly buying it. I'm reading the commission report and the more I read the more I agree that it read like a silly novel. Look how it starts: "We present the narrative of this report....". LOL Yeah everyone was waiting for a narrative, yeah right. They wanted to touch people in the heart, how cute. I'd rather read any of Tom Clancy's book if I was looking for that kinda thing.
 
roscoe_the_first said:
Here try this

Days before investigation carried out.

Pearl Harbor - 9 days

Kennedy Assassination - 7 days

Challenger Disaster - 7 days

911 investigation - 411 days

Budget for investigation.
Challenger disaster - $75million

Columbia distaster - $50million

Clinton's indiscretions - $40million


911 investigation. (Worst crime in Modern history) - $3million

Just one of the reasons why we'll be in your faces for the rest of your lives.

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$3 million? By the time you add up the salaries alone for the people involved in NIST, 9/11 commission, FBI, CIA, SEC, FEMA and the NTSB for their time spent on 9/11 you're well over $3 million and that's not even counting all of the other local, state and federal alphabet soups involved.
 
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Sam.I.Am, you have a lot of stones casting doubt on the $3 million figure. Why don't you just click one of the many citations and links he posted and read the TRUTH for yourself?












Oh, wait...
 
fallout said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4NcEmkZens

Today, a friend of you all spoke in Russia Today.
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No jew-hating terrorist sympathiser is any friend of mine.

ETA: Oh jeebus... he's still pushing the "8 hijackers still alive" garbage.

Hey Davey-boy, none of the hijackers are alive. Slamming into solid objects at 500 miles per hour is 100% fatal in all cases.
 
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fallout said:
Ahh come on Sabrina... that's no argument for leaving it behind. I don't think so. That was also a huge loss that day.
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Did the report cover WTC 3, 4, 5, and 6? Liberty Plaza, St. Nicholas Church, World Financial Center, Deutsche Bank, and Fitterman Hall? If not, what made WTC 7 so special?

No one died in WTC 7. Its was completely evacuated on 9/11/2001. It had no part in the attacks, so what would be the reason to cover its collapse, when the REST of of the buildings subjected to the attack were NOT covered?
 
Arus808 said:
Did the report cover WTC 3, 4, 5, and 6? Liberty Plaza, St. Nicholas Church, World Financial Center, Deutsche Bank, and Fitterman Hall? If not, what made WTC 7 so special?

No one died in WTC 7. Its was completely evacuated on 9/11/2001. It had no part in the attacks, so what would be the reason to cover its collapse, when the REST of of the buildings subjected to the attack were NOT covered?
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They had to cover all of them, everything that was brought down by the terrorist attacks. Waiting over one year for a silly novel leaving it all out won't justify anything of that. About covering only the part where people died, it only adds up to their intention of presenting a touchy story rather than a criminal investigation report.
 
roscoe_the_first said:
Here try this

Days before investigation carried out.

Pearl Harbor - 9 days

Kennedy Assassination - 7 days

Challenger Disaster - 7 days

911 investigation - 411 days

Budget for investigation.
Challenger disaster - $75million

Columbia distaster - $50million

Clinton's indiscretions - $40million


911 investigation. (Worst crime in Modern history) - $3million
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http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Comparing_costs

Public Law 107-306 provided for the reprogramming of $3 million for the Commission. Congress subsequently appropriated, and the President signed into law, an additional $11 million appropriation for the Commission. Recent legislation authorized an additional $1 million, bringing the Commission’s total budget to $15 million.
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(Source for quote: http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/about/faq.htm#q5)

So just the commision - not the investigations that generated the information for the commision to review, but the commision itseif - cost $15 million, not $3 million. And that was only for the inquiry.

The actual cost of the various investigations - PENTBOM, the NIST Reports, etc. - aren't even included. Let alone the state-level investigations, like the coroners works.

This is the 9/11 "Truth" movement, folks. Right here. They not only don't get the figure right, but they distort it's implications. If that's not proof of lying, I don't know what is.
 
fallout said:
They had to cover all of them, everything that was brought down by the terrorist attacks.
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Please point to the chapter and section in their report that cover these buildings. I only see specific claims to WTC 1 and WTC 2, with mention of the Pentagon and Shanksville crash.

Waiting over one year for a silly novel leaving it all out won't justify anything of that. About covering only the part where people died, it only adds up to their intention of presenting a touchy story rather than a criminal investigation report.
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Please point out in their report where they made mention of the other buildings that were damaged by the attacks on 9/11.
 
Arus808 said:
Please point to the chapter and section in their report that cover these buildings. I only see specific claims to WTC 1 and WTC 2, with mention of the Pentagon and Shanksville crash.

Please point out in their report where they made mention of the other buildings that were damaged by the attacks on 9/11.
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No, I did say they had to cover all of them, and they didn't.
 
fallout said:
No, I did say they had to cover all of them, and they didn't.
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why? they were not the targets of the attack but casualties of the attack. All those buildings were not targeted by the terrorists.

ETA: the 911 commission was to report on why the attacks happened, how it happened and what we can do now to protect it from happening again.

it was not a study to investigate, the hows and whys of the collapses of the buildings. The only "engineering" comment in the 911 Commission report was to make statements on how the attacks affected the buildings, but that is a tertiary summary of what actually happened. That's why NIST and FEMA started on their reports and were tasked with why they collapse.

You need to focus on the PURPOSE of the 9/11 Commission, not what you THINK they were supposed to do.
 
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why? they were not the targets of the attack but casualties of the attack. All those buildings were not targeted by the terrorists.
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I don't know if that argument is any good for justifying they leaving it alone. They should have save some pages of the cool story to narrate those buildings falling as well. They weren't primarily targeted but were destroyed as well. Many people wanted to know about them.
 
Arus808 said:
You need to focus on the PURPOSE of the 9/11 Commission, not what you THINK they were supposed to do.
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Then the objective of those politicians was to write a story about terrorists hitting buildings in a narrative way? I hardly see any point in that tbh.
 
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$115,200,000 just in FBI salaries (roughly 1,280 man years @ 40 hours a week with a salary of $60,000 a year) I went with the low end of someone with 5-9 years in the job so obviously that number is going to be higher but I went as reasonably conservative as I could.

So, $115 million dollars for the FBI's manpower alone (not to mention other costs associated with the investigation such as wear and tear on vehicles, travel costs, per diem etc.).
 
fallout said:
I don't know if that argument is any good for justifying they leaving it alone.
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You say "it". There were nearly 10 other buildings damaged on 9/11 as well, many of them collapsed due to the damage; some were torn down for safety reasons.

There was no reason for the commission to cover those buildings. THEY were not targets, but casualties of the attack. WTC 1 and WTC 2 were the targets on 9/11 as seen by the footage of the attacks; planes were deliberately flown into them

NO plane was flown deliberately into WTC 7 (and by public knowledge, not everyone knew what WTC 7 was because it was known by another more common name, the Solomon Building).

No plane was flown deliberately into WTC 3, 4, 5, 6, Fitterman Hall, Deutsche Bank and others. No bombs were placed in these buildings, they were not targets.

AGAIN you need to familiarize yourself with the PURPOSE of the commission. YOU are showing that you dont.
 
fallout said:
Then the objective of those politicians was to write a story about terrorists hitting buildings in a narrative way? I hardly see any point in that tbh.
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Ok, what should it have been?
 
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