Rapture date: May 21, 2011. Exactly 7000 years from the Flood.

[Orphia Nay]

While I believe Jesus will return sooner than people think, I know the bible says nobody is to try to specify the day or hour. I just hope others will see the urgency in the message even if we cannot know the day or hour. Judgement will surely come!

Yep, just remain in a constant state of panic, even though every Rapture prediction has been wrong for over 2000 years.

 

[stilicho]

Well I can already see his first problem. He's completely ignored the spiritually significant number of 3 (very notable since that would be the trinity, the only digit used in the year of Jesus' death and the only 2 digits used in his age when he died- not to mention the only digit used for his age when he was 3).

It looks to me like he needs to use three repeating sets of spiritually significant numbers. That should give us a few more years to worry about it.

Well, let's see: 17^3 * 7^2 * 3^1 = 722,211. That incorporates enough trinities, the exponents sum to a perfect number, and seven pops up quite a bit in the Bible so I figure Mr Nutball is simply 289 days too late.

Therefore, I declare the Bible (and prophet Klase) foretell the end of the universe on 05 AUG 2010. Sign up now!

 

[dafydd]

While I believe Jesus will return sooner than people think, I know the bible says nobody is to try to specify the day or hour. I just hope others will see the urgency in the message even if we cannot know the day or hour. Judgement will surely come!

No it won't.Enjoy your life instead of kow-towing to an imaginary diety.

 

[Beerina]

Googled this guy and a lot of the Calvinist/Pentecostal types are furious with him. He's essentially dictated that anyone still belonging to those denominations since his last failed prediction are doomed. His math is presented here-- http://www.writeonnewjersey.com/2010/02/countdown-to-judgment-2/ --for anyone who cares to check:

"[There] are 722,500 days between Jesus’ crucifixion and his return on May 21, 2011. 722,500 is the product of two repeating sets of spiritually significant numbers: 5 x 10 x 17 x 5 x 10 x 17."

So there you have it.

Here are the significant numbers, religiously, as near as I can tell from the Bible:


3 -- Minimum non-degenerate group that cannot have a tie stalemate on a decision. Hence the triumvirate or tribunal achieves a mystical power in the memespace of the ancients, who forget the original rationale as to the number and just treat it as awesome, forgetting why.

5 -- Number of fingers, originally due to number of phalanges on some ancient fish's fin.

7 -- Number of visible heavenly bodies to the naked eye*, and thus number of days in the week.

10 -- Number of fingers

12 -- Rough number of lunar cycles per year, where lunar cycle is, coincidentally, roughly 4 * size of week.

13 -- 12 + Jesus

1,000 -- "A lot," in a base 10 (fingers) counting system.

10,000 -- "A whole lot" in a base 10 (fingers) counting system.

144,000 -- "A whole hell of a lot", 12 x 12 x 10,000.




Don't see any 17s in there.







* Yes, I know technically Uranus is visible to the naked eye (no jokes, please. Or jokes, of you prefer.) but no ancient culture ever discovered it.

 

[AvalonXQ]

From our numerology discussions of Revelation in my junior high Bible class:

3: God
4: Nature, the natural world, creation
7 (3+4): Perfection, completeness
6 (7-1): Incompleteness, imperfection, flaw, wrongness
10: Worldly power, human authority, those who do not inherit from God
12 (3*4): Heavenly authority, the inheritors of God
Seventeen wasn't on our radar, either.

 

[I Ratant]

69.
Buncha 3's there, and it's got the added juice of being a nice double.

 

[grayman]

42.

 

[Ladewig]

Judgement will surely come!

The evidence suggests otherwise.

 

[grayman]

When these people predict a date, do they take into account the international dateline?

 

[jadey]

The Bible teaches that the end of the church age would occur simultaneously with the beginning of the great tribulation:

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

On May 21st, 1988, God finished using the churches and congregations of the world. The Spirit of God left all churches and Satan, the man of sin, entered into the churches to rule at that point in time. The Bible teaches us that this awful period of judgment upon the churches would last for 23 years. A full 23 years (8400 days exactly) would be from May 21 st, 1988 until May 21st, 2011. This information was discovered in the Bible completely apart from the information regarding the 7000 years from the flood.

We're in the great tribulation ... who knew? This will apparently last for 8400 days, or roughly 8,400,000 years. So, I think we've got a little extra time.

 

[shadron]

So, add another date to the list?

Or is this the real thing? But, isn't that what they said the first 5,547,492 other times?

You don't think that that number, modulo 2000, is 1492 has any significance, do ya?

Glory!!

 

[stilicho]

Here are the significant numbers, religiously, as near as I can tell from the Bible:

Don't see any 17s in there.

You'll have to take that up with the other prophets. Camping says 17 means heaven.

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EDIT: The significance of 17 in the bible is demonstrated here: http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/17.html. There's another entry on 153, too, so really there's no logical reason you couldn't start with that one. I'll bet you can find a number to mark as your own date for the apocalypse just as Camping and I have.

 

[timhau]

I have tried so many times to get people who believe the end of the world is coming to sign a contract transferring all of their possessions over to me, effective the day after their end of the world scenario; so far nobody has been willing to sign...

I wonder if it's because they don't REALLY believe?

It might be because there's no way they can win in that arrangement. My offer is this: I'll give you $1,000 today, in exchange for you giving me $10,000 day after the profecied rapture date.

If you're right, you can treat your loved ones to something nice before the end, on my expense. In the real world, I win $9,000, but at least it's a winnable bet for both parties.

 

[I Ratant]

The distressed child in the message at the top of page 2 couldn't comprehend that -only- his roommate had been "raptured"?
Everyone else was still here.
I think there is a bigger problem than merely believing in rapture there.
It is too bad it hasn't (won't) occur.
Leave lots of goodies for us to enjoy.

 

[Elizabeth I]

I've been trying to track that for some time, but part of it came from an Art Bell interview. (Long time ago; no, I don't remember the guest. You can hear some truly weird stuff on late night radio when you're somewhere in Texas.)

Which is why you should ALWAYS have a book on tape/CD/mp3 along with you! (Free @ your library! Paid adv.)

While I believe Jesus will return sooner than people think, I know the bible says nobody is to try to specify the day or hour. I just hope others will see the urgency in the message even if we cannot know the day or hour. Judgement will surely come!

Oh, joy. She's back.

When these people predict a date, do they take into account the international dateline?

The international dateline, is, as all good fundamentalists know, the work of Satan.

 

[Philip]

I wonder how many total times the second coming has been precisely identified? My guess is about 2008, once a year since his supposed death. Maybe a little less depending on how you define a prediction.

That's about right:
http://www.armageddononline.org/failed_armageddon.php

Entered into my calendar May 22nd, 2011: Go get peoples stuff they left behind.

Hearing rapturians talk about "Left Behind" reminds me that my left behind has fewer zits than my right behind. I wonder if that's a message from God.

 

[One Eyed Jack]

The Rapture... ah, sweet joy...

Can anyone imagine a better world than one where all the fundies and Bible thumpers were suddenly whisked away? Heaven on Earth. Truly. Heavenly.

 

[Mister Agenda]

There was a huge, worldwide flood 7000 years ago?

Yep, after the Egyptian and Chinese civilizations started, I'm sure they must have written all about it, but I can't be bothered to check.

 

[grayman]

Yep, after the Egyptian and Chinese civilizations started, I'm sure they must have written all about it, but I can't be bothered to check.

God just wants you to think that's when their civilization started, in order to test your faith.

 

[sphenisc]

...
These YECs claim Christ died in 33 CE, after a 3 year ministry. Most scholars seem to lean toward a roughly one year ministry, starting at about age 30. If the majority opinion, as I understand it, is correct Christ died around the year 24 CE. Birth 6 BCE, plus 29 to 30 years, and a 1 year ministry would put his death at about 24 to 25 CE.
....

25 to 26 CE [/pedant]