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Only one conspiracy theory results in jail time

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When someone tells that Auschwitz is a lie, that it is a hoax, I feel hesitation to say much to him. I say, the facts are so firmly determined, that one cannot have any doubt at all, and I stop talking to that person because it has no use. One knows that anyone who clings to such things, which are published somewhere, is a malevolent person who has some personal interest to want to bury in silence things that cannot be buried in silence.
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- Untersturmfuhrer Dr. Hans Muench.

More inconvenient testimony by the SS. They must all be liars, right Saggy?
What can you expect from an organisation run by a cowardly chicken-farmer?
 
Saggy said:
And I'm amazed that anyone can believe there is any evidence, at least not after reading the thread discussing Robert Jan Van Pelt's admission that there is no physical evidence for 99% of the holohoax. It's a true testament to human stupidity.

Let me make it clear - there IS NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.
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A claim which would come of something of a shock to those who found the things in 45.

Of course there is no physical evidence that the british killed off the tasmanians.

No bodies.
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The crematoria are well documented. They tend by their very nature not to leave bodies.


Sometimes though things were rushed:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ohrdruf_Corpses_Eisenhower.jpg

No gas chambers.
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http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Komora_gazowa_02.jpg

No gas vans.
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http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chelmno_Gas_Van.jpg

No documents.
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The US goverment put together quite a collection of them.

No photographs.
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http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Einsatzgruppe.jpg
 
Saggy said:
Ernst Zundel, Europe's most famous political Prisoner of Conscience, has been released from Mannheim Prison this morning, March 1st. Here he is with one of his defense attorneys, Dr. Herbert Schaller of Austria, both of them smiling broadly...
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For the record, I agree with you that people should not be jailed for saying what they believe.

Saggy said:
Let me make it clear - there IS NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

No bodies. No gas chambers. No gas vans. No documents. No photographs. Nada.
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Here, you're just wrong.
 
Saggy said:
Only testimony. Here's a sample from the paragon of holohoax eyewitnesses, Elie Wiesel, and a Nobel winner to boot ....

"Babies were thrown into the air and the machine gunners used them as targets."

All holohoax testimony,like the above,is pure crap.
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Many holocaust survivors have been looked upon with distaste, if not contempt, by their fellow Jews. This is not because they made up stories about the holocaust, but because they are assumed to have cooperated with the Nazis in some way to buy their own lives.

Of course, this means that the holocaust happened.
 
I believe Saggy is going for fractal wrongness here - not only is his stance wrong, every single thing he says in support of it is just as wrong.
 
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Offtopic: "Blond wie Hitler, schlank wie Göring und flink wie Goebbels". :D

Well, I wonder why a CT that accuses the victims of a crime of lying and conspiracy should be prosecuted. It's all innocent and in good faith, right? And it never ever is used as just another means of painting said group as evil masterminds that are to be get rid of. :rolleyes:

I'm still laughing about Saggy's "you don't need to read a book about it" stance btw. Why would you ever need to be informed if you do call people liars and hoaxers? I mean, it's free speech, right?

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You know the one good thing that's come of all this Holocaust denial on this forum recently? It's given me back some faith in my own humanity. I sometimes worry that I've lost something of myself, that the internet has desensitised me. The violence that's easy to find, the jokes about every subject imaginable, the stories of this or that horror. It all washes over as I look for the next item of amusement.

And then someone seriously denies the Holocaust. I'm actually surprised at how strongly I feel about anyone who would use the term "Holohoax." So thank you, Saggy. Much as it pains me to admit it, your reprehensible views have done some small good. Now please stop posting them before I'm physically ill.
 
Saggy said:
Let me make it clear - there IS NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

No bodies. No gas chambers. No gas vans. No documents. No photographs. Nada.
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Saggy said:
Ernst Zundel, Europe's most famous political Prisoner of Conscience, has been released from Mannheim Prison this morning, March 1st. Here he is with one of his defense attorneys, Dr. Herbert Schaller of Austria, both of them smiling broadly...

http://www.zundelsite.org/images/img635.jpg
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I agree with the OP. It's unfair that Holocaust denial is the only CT that ca get you tossed in jail.

I think 9/11 truthers should be imprisoned as well.

Or at the very least, waterboarded until they admit they are full of @#$%.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
I agree with the OP. It's unfair that Holocaust denial is the only CT that ca get you tossed in jail.

I think 9/11 truthers should be imprisoned as well.

Or at the very least, waterboarded until they admit they are full of @#$%.
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Seriously, though...I can't see the state punishing someone for poor critical thinking skills and slippery grasp of history, when it is the state's responsiblity to educate that person.
 
aggle-rithm said:
Seriously, though...I can't see the state punishing someone for poor critical thinking skills and slippery grasp of history, when it is the state's responsiblity to educate that person.
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RE-EDUCATION! That's the answer!

Why has no one thought of this before?!?
 
Saggy said:
Ernst Zundel, Europe's most famous political Prisoner of Conscience, has been released from Mannheim Prison this morning, March 1st. Here he is with one of his defense attorneys, Dr. Herbert Schaller of Austria, both of them smiling broadly...

http://www.zundelsite.org/images/img635.jpg
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Famous? I live in Europe and I've never heard of him,and neither has anyone else that I've spoken to today.
 
Saggy said:
And I'm amazed that anyone can believe there is any evidence, at least not after reading the thread discussing Robert Jan Van Pelt's admission that there is no physical evidence for 99% of the holohoax. It's a true testament to human stupidity.

Let me make it clear - there IS NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

No bodies. No gas chambers. No gas vans. No documents. No photographs. Nada.

Only testimony. Here's a sample from the paragon of holohoax eyewitnesses, Elie Wiesel, and a Nobel winner to boot ....

"Babies were thrown into the air and the machine gunners used them as targets."

All holohoax testimony,like the above,is pure crap.
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I could give a long reply,but I'll keep it short.Bollocks.
 
Sledge said:
You know the one good thing that's come of all this Holocaust denial on this forum recently? It's given me back some faith in my own humanity. I sometimes worry that I've lost something of myself, that the internet has desensitised me. The violence that's easy to find, the jokes about every subject imaginable, the stories of this or that horror. It all washes over as I look for the next item of amusement.

And then someone seriously denies the Holocaust. I'm actually surprised at how strongly I feel about anyone who would use the term "Holohoax." So thank you, Saggy. Much as it pains me to admit it, your reprehensible views have done some small good. Now please stop posting them before I'm physically ill.
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Holohoax is a pin-headed,hairbrained,moronic term which sadly reveals all you need to know about the mentally challenged people who use it.
 
dafydd said:
Holohoax is a pin-headed,hairbrained,moronic term which sadly reveals all you need to know about the mentally challenged people who use it.
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I prefer the term Bunnycaust. I think I was introduced to it on this forum by a guy who also ranted against the term Nazi; he found it offensive because it had acquired such a pejorative tone.
 
dafydd said:
Holohoax is a pin-headed,hairbrained,moronic term which sadly reveals all you need to know about the mentally challenged people who use it.
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The only 'evidence' for the holocaust is the lies of degenerates.

E.g., pictures of typhus victims taken after the war are presented as evidence of the holocaust.

We have been bombarded by these lies for 50 years. Thanks to the internet, they are now exposed for all to see.
 
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