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The Marijuana Conspiracy

It has been alleged for years that the erradication of hemp from the US was a plot hatched by US robber barrons. I believe there is much credible evidence for this. Here's a nice start. Any comments? Thanks

http://www.tpuc.org/content/marijuana-conspiracy

"They say marijuana is dangerous. pot is not harmful to the human body or mind. marijuana does not pose a threat to the general public. Marijuana is very much a danger to the oil companies, alcohol, tobacco industries and a large number of chemical corporations. Big businesses, with plenty of dollars and influence, have suppressed the truth from the people. The truth is, if marijuana was utilized for its vast array of commercial products, it would create an industrial atomic bomb! The super rich have conspired to spread misinformation about the plant that, if used properly, would ruin their companies.

Where did the word ‘marijuana’ come from? In the mid 1930s, the M-word was created to tarnish the good image and phenomenal history of the hemp plant – as you will read. The facts cited here, with references, are generally verifiable in the Encyclopedia Britannica which was printed on hemp paper for 150 years:

✔ All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s. (Jack Frazier. Hemp Paper Reconsidered. 1974.)


✔ It was legal to pay taxes with hemp in America from 1631 until the early 1800s. (LA Times. Aug. 12, 1981.)

✔ Refusing to grow hemp in America during the 17th and 18th centuries was against the law! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769 (G. M. Herdon. Hemp in Colonial Virginia).

✔ George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers grew hemp. (Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds from China to France then to America.)

✔ Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America, and it processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to cut off Moscow’s export to England. (Jack Herer. Emperor Wears No Clothes.)
✔ For thousands of years, 90% of all ships’ sails and rope were made from hemp. The word ‘canvas’ is Dutch for cannabis. (Webster’s New World Dictionary.)

✔ 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc.,were made from hemp until the 1820s, with the introduction of the cotton gin.

✔ The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross’s flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp. (U.S. Government Archives.)

✔ The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for Kentucky producing 40,000 tons.Hemp was the largest cash crop until the 20th century. (State Archives.)"

And More Imporatantly:


THE CONSPIRACY
William Randolph Hearst (Citizen Kane) and the Hearst Paper Manufacturing Division of Kimberly Clark owned vast acreage of timberlands. The Hearst Company supplied most paper products. Patty Hearst’s grandfather, a destroyer of nature for his own personal profit, stood to lose billions because of hemp.

In 1937, DuPont patented the processes to make plastics from oil and coal. DuPont’s Annual Report urged stockholders to invest in its new petrochemical division. Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, celluloid, methanol, nylon, rayon, Dacron, etc., could now be made from oil.Natural hemp industrialization would have ruined over 80% of DuPont’s business.

Andrew Mellon became Hoover’s Secretary of the Treasury and DuPont’s primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law,Harry J.Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.

Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: ‘marijuana’ and pushed it into the consciousness of America.

MEDIA MANIPULATION
A media blitz of ‘yellow journalism’ raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. Hearst’s newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marijuana. The menace of marijuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality.

Films like Reefer Madness (1936), Marijuana: Assassin of Youth (1935) and Marijuana: The Devil’s Weed (1936) were propaganda designed by these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain public support so that anti-marijuana laws could be passed.

Examine the following quotes from The Burning Question, aka Reefer Madness:

Let me get this straight - you're claiming the world elites, who want nothing but to get rich, are spening an enormus effort to surpress the one thing that could make them far richer easily, and have done so worldwide, including in countries like the (deceased) Soviet Union and North Korea?
Instead of utilising an existing technology, they spent another vast effort in producing a wide array of different, more expensive and less useful products, that produce a lower profit for the very same elites.

If you think I'm wrong at any point, please, feel free to try to correct me :P

McHrozni
 
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About what? It is perfectly legal to import hemp, and if it were so cost effective than it would be the preferred product for making paper. Unfortunately we don't see it being used, which would make little sense given your discription as a miracle plant.

The fact is that even when we import paper materials we still don't use hemp. So why is it that even though it is 100% legal to import this miracle plant, we still use paper and synthetics even when we import.

Most timber we use is grown for that purpose, on land that is only really suitable for timber. We have more forest today than at the start of the 20th century because we use trees. Hemp would take up land that is used for commercial farming, without producing a paper product that is any better than tree paper (modern processes remove the yellowing). What it does do is effectively drive up food prices and make land used for timber more profitable to be used for development of houses and commercial properties.

Of course that is assuming that hemp would catch on. I have no problem with allowing hemp to be grown for gear or for smoke, but it isn't going to "help us out of the economic chrisis (sic) we find ourselves in today". Also it isn't like states are not being permitted to start experimenting with industrial hemp production.

EDIT: BTW my point was that hemp costs more than tree pulp by about 6 times, which means right now it is no where near a competitor for paper. So please yell "WRONG" one more time, but the truth is that wood pulp is 6 times cheaper than hemp pulp.

With all due respect, you miss many of my points. I guess you haven't lived near a paper mill, or you don't mind the puke-like smell of these noxious places. There is absolutely NO reason why we should have to import hemp. It would serve us well to retool our industrial and agricultural methods and hemp can be a great catylist and rescource.

As far as commercial farmland, replacing our genitacally modified corn and soybean acreage with hemp would be an excellent way to improve the quality of food grown and consumed here in the US and drive down health costs. Replacing the high fructose corn suryp based foods with high protein high omega 3 hemp based food products would immediately reduce the epidemic obesity and diabetes here in the US. It would be an excellent idea to start transitioning as soon as possible.

Hemp requires no toxic pesticides or herbicides and would help to clean up the mess that ADM and Monsanto have made of our midwestern farmlands with their all out assault on the land by way of poisonous chemicals and frankenfoods. Land doesn't have to be made "roundup ready" to grow hemp. It will grow in almost any soil and will improve the land over time because its deep fast growing roots can be plowed and turned annually making the use of nitrogen fertilizer unneccessary.
 
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Let me get this straight - you're claiming the world elites, who want nothing but to get rich, are spening an enormus effort to surpress the one thing that could make them far richer easily, and have done so worldwide, including in countries like the (deceased) Soviet Union and North Korea?
Instead of utilising an existing technology, they spent another vast effort in producing a wide array of different, more expensive and less useful products, that produce a lower profit for the very same elites.

If you think I'm wrong at any point, please, feel free to try to correct me :P

McHrozni

Why else would there be an almost world wide ban on an immensely useful and easy to grow asset? And it gets you high without even being distilled! The elites have grown rich by using their total control of OIL, and other fossil fuels and making sure they are the only main sources of energy, to grow filthy rich and all powerful over the last century. It seems to have worked out very well for them. Also the crappy food supply keeps their subjects fat and dumb enough to be easily duped and controlled. Hemp is a wildcard to these guys. People could become self sufficient by owning a 10-20 acres of land, with the proper technology. That is not in the interest of powerbrokers who want central control.
 
Why else would there be an almost world wide ban on an immensely useful and easy to grow asset? And it gets you high without even being distilled! The elites have grown rich by using their total control of OIL, and other fossil fuels and making sure they are the only main sources of energy, to grow filthy rich and all powerful over the last century. It seems to have worked out very well for them. Also the crappy food supply keeps their subjects fat and dumb enough to be easily duped and controlled. Hemp is a wildcard to these guys. People could become self sufficient by owning a 10-20 acres of land, with the proper technology. That is not in the interest of powerbrokers who want central control.

No they couldn't. I'm from NC... Reidsville NC. With the crack down on tobacco you most likely don't know that town but we gave the soldiers of WWII their nicotine fix, (Lucky Strikes) and almost any major brand of cigarettes you can think of. (Winstons and Salems were made in Winston Salem NC, anyway...) The only ONLY thing that grows better in NC is weed. We literally used to sow it. While in the first half of the 20th century what you say would be true. the same thing that happened with tobacco would have happened with teh cannabis. Larger companies would buy out most of the land (showing people more cash than they'd ever seen, which would be a drop in the bucket once combined with their neighbors land.) and mostly the same people that are rich off of such things would be rich still and the people that made a decent living would either be brought out later or driven under by the big dogs.
 
Why else would there be an almost world wide ban on an immensely useful and easy to grow asset? And it gets you high without even being distilled! The elites have grown rich by using their total control of OIL, and other fossil fuels and making sure they are the only main sources of energy, to grow filthy rich and all powerful over the last century. It seems to have worked out very well for them. Also the crappy food supply keeps their subjects fat and dumb enough to be easily duped and controlled. Hemp is a wildcard to these guys. People could become self sufficient by owning a 10-20 acres of land, with the proper technology. That is not in the interest of powerbrokers who want central control.

Hemp as an oil substitute? That's a new one. Off to stundies you go.

McHrozni
 
Hemp is a major product of thirty countries. The largest producer are France and Russia. Hemp products that have a zero thc levels are available in the US and world wide.

http://azhemp.org/Archive/Package/Legal/legal.html

Companies in Canada, UK, US and Germany among many others process hemp seed into a growing range of food products and cosmetics; many traditional growing countries still continue to produce textile grade fibre.

However I have personally found that hemp based foods are not particularly tasty. Which explains their designation as a 'health' food. I find the taste to be like millet. Healthy but not overy tasty and little demand in the west.

This is yet another tired attempt to promote marijuana legalization with a bizarre lead in of legalizing hemp. I support legalization but this approach always fails for just being rather silly.
 
It has been alleged for years that the erradication of hemp from the US was a plot hatched by US robber barrons. I believe there is much credible evidence for this. Here's a nice start. Any comments? Thanks

http://www.tpuc.org/content/marijuana-conspiracy

"They say marijuana is dangerous. pot is not harmful to the human body or mind. marijuana does not pose a threat to the general public. Marijuana is very much a danger to the oil companies, alcohol, tobacco industries and a large number of chemical corporations. Big businesses, with plenty of dollars and influence, have suppressed the truth from the people. The truth is, if marijuana was utilized for its vast array of commercial products, it would create an industrial atomic bomb! The super rich have conspired to spread misinformation about the plant that, if used properly, would ruin their companies.

Horsecrap. Hemp is at best a bit player in the cash crop market. Need proof? Look at the countries where hemp is legal (there are a lot of them). They aren't exactly revolutionizing the world.

Where did the word ‘marijuana’ come from? In the mid 1930s, the M-word was created to tarnish the good image and phenomenal history of the hemp plant – as you will read. The facts cited here, with references, are generally verifiable in the Encyclopedia Britannica which was printed on hemp paper for 150 years:

"Generally Verifiable" means that Frazier usually made it up or exagerrated.

✔ All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s. (Jack Frazier. Hemp Paper Reconsidered. 1974.)

Hemp paper was considered 'of the lowest quality' by Pulp & Paper when they still covered older handmaking techniques. I wonder how many schoolbooks were really being made - from what I know of that era most kids had a slate and chalk.

✔ It was legal to pay taxes with hemp in America from 1631 until the early 1800s. (LA Times. Aug. 12, 1981.)

It was a cash crop. The same could probably be said of any cash crop from that era. Money in coin was sometimes short.

✔ Refusing to grow hemp in America during the 17th and 18th centuries was against the law! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769 (G. M. Herdon. Hemp in Colonial Virginia).

Which goes to show that you had to force people to grow the annoying crop. Virginia needed hemp for sails (and rope). Given the short life of this law I'd guess it wasn't very popular.

✔ George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers grew hemp. (Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds from China to France then to America.)

Be that is may, it does not mean they made a lot of money from it.

✔ Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America, and it processed hemp.

Any paper mill of the era could process fabric to make paper. They much preferred linen, however. They could certainly do hemp, but Herer implies that that was all they did.

Oh, and Franklin's paper mill was not one of the first in America. Rittenhaus beat him to it by decades.

Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to cut off Moscow’s export to England. (Jack Herer. Emperor Wears No Clothes.)

(Pssst, the War of 1812 is only called that in the USA - your amerocentricity is showing)

✔ For thousands of years, 90% of all ships’ sails and rope were made from hemp. The word ‘canvas’ is Dutch for cannabis. (Webster’s New World Dictionary.)

And we found better materials over time. Hemp has problems with harvesting and rotting. It is also a very difficult fabric to work with.

✔ 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc.,were made from hemp until the 1820s, with the introduction of the cotton gin.

Bullcrap. Most fabrics of that era were wool and linen.

✔ The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross’s flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp. (U.S. Government Archives.)

Wrong on many accounts.

✔ The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for Kentucky producing 40,000 tons.Hemp was the largest cash crop until the 20th century. (State Archives.)"

And despite having no competition it then started to decline. 40,000 tons isn't exactly much.

And More Imporatantly:

THE CONSPIRACY

THE NONSENSE!

William Randolph Hearst (Citizen Kane) and the Hearst Paper Manufacturing Division of Kimberly Clark owned vast acreage of timberlands. The Hearst Company supplied most paper products. Patty Hearst’s grandfather, a destroyer of nature for his own personal profit, stood to lose billions because of hemp.

Not really. Hemp simply wasn't even close to being a threat to paper industry. It was barely being produced in the US, even before it was outlawed

In 1937, DuPont patented the processes to make plastics from oil and coal. DuPont’s Annual Report urged stockholders to invest in its new petrochemical division. Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, celluloid, methanol, nylon, rayon, Dacron, etc., could now be made from oil.Natural hemp industrialization would have ruined over 80% of DuPont’s business.

Nonsense. If hemp was 'all that' Nylon would never have gotten off the ground. Last I checked, I don't remember any scrambles at Gimbles in the 1930s for hemp stockings.

Andrew Mellon became Hoover’s Secretary of the Treasury and DuPont’s primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law,Harry J.Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.

Anslinger was already a heavy participant in prohibition.

Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: ‘marijuana’ and pushed it into the consciousness of America.

Magic thinking with no evidence.

MEDIA MANIPULATION
A media blitz of ‘yellow journalism’ raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. Hearst’s newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marijuana. The menace of marijuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality.

Hearst was hardly alone. Journalism of that era was sensationalistic. The New Yorker even had articles about the 'dangers of MJ'

Films like Reefer Madness (1936), Marijuana: Assassin of Youth (1935) and Marijuana: The Devil’s Weed (1936) were propaganda designed by these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain public support so that anti-marijuana laws could be passed.

And the proof that these films were made by the same industrialists? none.

Examine the following quotes from The Burning Question, aka Reefer Madness:

Sorry, but the hemp/mj conspiracy is nonsense. Crusaders felt the need to go after something as prohibition was falling flat, MJ made a good scapegoat. Anslinger didn't need any help from industrialists. He could be a psychotic zealot all on his own.

The whole MJ/hemp conspiracy is the wild imaginings of paranoid pot-heads trying to add a level to their 'Legalize It' campaign.
 
Why else would there be an almost world wide ban on an immensely useful and easy to grow asset?

Because it isn't that useful, and it resembles an outlawed plant too much.

And it gets you high without even being distilled! The elites have grown rich by using their total control of OIL, and other fossil fuels and making sure they are the only main sources of energy, to grow filthy rich and all powerful over the last century. It seems to have worked out very well for them. Also the crappy food supply keeps their subjects fat and dumb enough to be easily duped and controlled. Hemp is a wildcard to these guys. People could become self sufficient by owning a 10-20 acres of land, with the proper technology. That is not in the interest of powerbrokers who want central control.

You do realize the energy yield per acre with corn is much higher than hemp, yes? Hemp is also much harder to harvest and the US is much better at growing corn.

Claims like this are laughable the moment one gets a single clue about logistics.
 
With all due respect, you miss many of my points. I guess you haven't lived near a paper mill, or you don't mind the puke-like smell of these noxious places. There is absolutely NO reason why we should have to import hemp. It would serve us well to retool our industrial and agricultural methods and hemp can be a great catylist and rescource.

Do you honestly think a hemp paper mill is going to be any less smelly? If anything it will be more so as decades of developed pollution controls will be useless. Honestly, I don't think you've ever talked to a papermaker in your life.

As far as commercial farmland, replacing our genitacally modified corn and soybean acreage with hemp would be an excellent way to improve the quality of food grown and consumed here in the US and drive down health costs. Replacing the high fructose corn suryp based foods with high protein high omega 3 hemp based food products would immediately reduce the epidemic obesity and diabetes here in the US. It would be an excellent idea to start transitioning as soon as possible.

Hemp is a cash crop, not a food crop. Your solution just drove up food costs across the board. Nice job.

Hemp requires no toxic pesticides or herbicides

YES IT DOES! If you want to grow it to any level where it is competitive you need to use these things.

and would help to clean up the mess that ADM and Monsanto have made of our midwestern farmlands with their all out assault on the land by way of poisonous chemicals and frankenfoods.

Ah, yes. That 'all out assault' that has fed the US and much of the world.

Land doesn't have to be made "roundup ready" to grow hemp. It will grow in almost any soil and will improve the land over time because its deep fast growing roots can be plowed and turned annually making the use of nitrogen fertilizer unneccessary.

Wrong. This is nonsense.
 
We should STOP this idiotic ban and use this plant to help us out of the economic chrisis we find ourselves in today.
Whoa there brother, chill a minute.

Think about this: Commercial hemp growing everywhere will destroy the outdoor "recreational hemp" crop so many Americans enjoy. Hemp pollen + female indica plant = dirt weed.

Why not keep the US nearly hemp pollen free?

:cool:
 
Yep. Mexicans and blacks were using it, and enjoying it! Ban it!
A big factor in the decision to ban opiates was the fact that the Chinese in San Francisco were enjoying it. Same old same old.

But really, if people want to legalize pot, just go ahead and admit it. Couching the discussion in terms of the 'miracle crop' hemp is just silly. 20 acre, one-crop farms are not "self sufficient" by any definition.
 
No they couldn't. I'm from NC... Reidsville NC. With the crack down on tobacco you most likely don't know that town but we gave the soldiers of WWII their nicotine fix, (Lucky Strikes) and almost any major brand of cigarettes you can think of. (Winstons and Salems were made in Winston Salem NC, anyway...) The only ONLY thing that grows better in NC is weed. We literally used to sow it. While in the first half of the 20th century what you say would be true. the same thing that happened with tobacco would have happened with teh cannabis. Larger companies would buy out most of the land (showing people more cash than they'd ever seen, which would be a drop in the bucket once combined with their neighbors land.) and mostly the same people that are rich off of such things would be rich still and the people that made a decent living would either be brought out later or driven under by the big dogs.

I agree that under the present circumstances, what you have pointed out regarding the "big dogs" driving any independent family or local co-op farms out, and monopolizing most ALL bussiness and therefore destroying competition ergo free enterprise, is todays reality. However if anti-trust laws were used to bust these cabals, a more equitable and locally controlled, true 'free enterprise' system could and probably would prevail. Real people should be given far more consideration regarding right to ownership of land in America than giant international corporations.

The trend that was accellerated in the late 19th century by Standard Oil, and later by ADM and other mega agricultural conglamorites has turned America from a country of independent self sufficient farmers and bussinessmen to a country of low paid sharecroppers. This could and should be reversed by means of legislation by the representatives of WE THE PEOPLE. At the present time our Congress, Executive Branch and Judicial Branch are little more that a cadre of Corporate lackeys who are not acting in the interest of the American people.

At this point, we need to get back to the original concept of corporations in America, which was to not grant corporation status to or renew the charter of any corporate entity unless it could prove to be in the interest of the greater good of the American people. I say BUST EM UP!! The sooner the better, and restore the American free enterprise system.
 
That was a nice speech. Now will you be providing evidence regarding "The Marijuana Conspiracy?"
 
A big factor in the decision to ban opiates was the fact that the Chinese in San Francisco were enjoying it. Same old same old.

But really, if people want to legalize pot, just go ahead and admit it. Couching the discussion in terms of the 'miracle crop' hemp is just silly. 20 acre, one-crop farms are not "self sufficient" by any definition.

I agree wholeheartedly. The real point is that we should not have ANY laws telling us what kind of plants we can grow, smoke, or eat. The "medicinal marijuana" laws are a silly disingenuos ruse. Also the industrial and agricultural hemp advocates who promise that it will not get anyone high are politically posturing. Legalize it. Don't criticize it. And cut the crap. Also and most importantly IMMEDIATELY release the prisoners of this idiotic war. Bring back "The Land Of The Free". This absurd drug war has cost trillions in waste of rescources and destroyed millions of peoples lives.
 
I agree wholeheartedly. The real point is that we should not have ANY laws telling us what kind of plants we can grow, smoke, or eat. The "medicinal marijuana" laws are a silly disingenuos ruse. Also the industrial and agricultural hemp advocates who promise that it will not get anyone high are politically posturing.

... And cut the crap. Also and most importantly IMMEDIATELY release the prisoners of this idiotic war. Bring back "The Land Of The Free". This absurd drug war has cost trillions in waste of rescources and destroyed millions of peoples lives.
See, now you're making sense!

Legalize it. Don't criticize it.
Too bad Peter isn't around to advertise it...
 
People could become self sufficient by owning a 10-20 acres of land, with the proper technology. That is not in the interest of powerbrokers who want central control.

A big factor in the decision to ban opiates was the fact that the Chinese in San Francisco were enjoying it. Same old same old.

But really, if people want to legalize pot, just go ahead and admit it. Couching the discussion in terms of the 'miracle crop' hemp is just silly. 20 acre, one-crop farms are not "self sufficient" by any definition.

I agree wholeheartedly. <snipped preachy bits>.
I'm a little confused. If you just want pot legalized, then why are you buying into this conspiracy theory about hemp? And if you agree with me that 20-acre, one-crop farms are not self-sufficient, then you disagree with yourself making this claim? A little clarity, please?

Thanks for the Peter Tosh reference (reaching for iTunes now...)
 
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Whoa there brother, chill a minute.

Think about this: Commercial hemp growing everywhere will destroy the outdoor "recreational hemp" crop so many Americans enjoy. Hemp pollen + female indica plant = dirt weed.

Why not keep the US nearly hemp pollen free?

:cool:

Almost all the good, non dirt weed is grown indoors these days. Mostly in Canada since they aren't locking people up for 20-30 years for a good sized grow like we do here in Ameria-Prison. I'm sure the outdoor growers up in Northern Cal could protect their crops from industrial hemp cross-pollination. They are pretty savvy. There are ways dude.
 
I'm a little confused. If you just want pot legalized, then why are you buying into this conspiracy theory about hemp? And if you agree with me that 20-acre, one-crop farms are not self-sufficient, then you disagree with yourself making this claim? A little clarity, please?

Thanks for the Peter Tosh reference (reaching for iTunes now...)

We gotta chase these crazy bald heads out of town, mon. That is the point. Brainwash education, to make us de fools? What say you mon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scs6mWiHnyA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE4TpnYIsW4
 
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