There is no evidence for WW II according to holohoax scholar !

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Is this all faked Saggy? http://www.its-arolsen.org/index.php?id=2&L=1
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That's physical evidence, for sure. And, it proves that there is no holohoax. 60,000,000 documents .... hidden for 50 years by whom? The hoaxers. Why - this is the best part - to protect the privacy of the 'victims'. Of course the victims were in court trying to claim their reparations, but the Bad Arolsen data was still kept secret ! It's like a really bad joke. The data is still secret except to those approved by the hoax establishment.

ALL THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE PROVES THERE WAS NO HOLOCAUST.

That's why the records are hidden.

By the way, the Russians released the Auschwitz records in the late 80's. The NAZI RECORDS are available. No holocaust at Auschwitz! Google Auschwitz Death Books for more info, they're even available from the Auschwitz museum, you can buy them.
 
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van Pelt was one of the expert witnesses who helped to squash David Irving's libel case against Deborah Lipstadt (Irving sued Lipstadt for libel for calling him a Holocaust denier. Irving comprehensively lost the case). That may be why some other cretinous Holocaust denier has it in for him and has chosen him, in particular, for a spot of word-twisting.

There's a fascinating, and very readable, account of the trial. including van Pelt's testimony, in a book by D D Guttenplan, The Holocaust on Trial
 
As we have seen in another thread, a prominent holohoax scholar admits that there is no physical (or documentary) evidence for the holocaust.

So, why believe it? The answer is testimony. Have you read any of it,the actual first hand reports? Here is a sample from the Nobel prize winning Elie Wiesel - from 'Night', page 6,

"Babies were thrown into the air and the machine gunners used them as targets."

So, we see that some of the 'testimony' is preposterous. Who has condemned this absurdity of Wiesel's? No one. He got the Nobel prize for it. So, if this obvious phantasmagoria passes for 'eyewitness testimony', don't you think it would be a good idea to check out the rest?

No physical evidence by admission of a prominent holohoax 'scholar'. Testimony that is obvious phantasmagoria.

Why believe the hoax?
 
Saggy said:
So, why believe it? The answer is testimony. Have you read any of it,the actual first hand reports? Here is a sample from the Nobel prize winning Elie Wiesel - from 'Night', page 6,

"Babies were thrown into the air and the machine gunners used them as targets."

So, we see that some of the 'testimony' is preposterous. Who has condemned this absurdity of Wiesel's? No one. He got the Nobel prize for it.
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Here's more eye-witness testimony, Oberscharfuhrer Josef Klehr:

Jews never gassed? No? Yes, I have already been asked about that. ...Three elderly ladies come to visit us here. That is such an official society. They always want to support us a little bit, to give us a present on our birthdays, and so on, and one of them asked me once if people were gassed in Auschwitz? I said - I will tell you openly and honestly, but if it were someone else, I would have answered that I did not know. But because it is you, I will tell you precisely, that people were gassed. And anyone who maintains that there are no gassing....Yes, I don't understand him, he must be crazy or on the wrong.... When you are three, four years in Auschwitz and experienced everything, then I cannot get myself to lie about it and say that no gassings were ever conducted.
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That's what really annoys me, those lying SS b*****ds. Just because they can't be bothered to commit suicide themselves they go and admit to committing imaginary crimes by the thousand so the state has to fork out to execute them. Or maybe they're too tight to pay rent so they decide to fit themselves up so they can loaf around in a luxury prison at the state's expense.

Tough luck some of the freeloading wasters got acquitted. Still, at least those ones are free now to point out the holocaust never happened. Let me just see if I can find an example. . . . . . . . There must be hundreds. . . . . . . Um. . . . .
 
Saggy said:
As we have seen in another thread, a prominent holohoax scholar admits that there is no physical (or documentary) evidence for the holocaust.

No physical evidence by admission of a prominent holohoax 'scholar'. Testimony that is obvious phantasmagoria.

Why believe the hoax?
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Ahem, almost no is not no. And almost no physical evidence is not almost no documentary evidence.
We have the Korherr Bericht in both original and sanitized (read: obfuscated and purged of incriminating words) versions. We have the Höfle telegram.
We have Martin Luther's specimen of the Wannsee conference protocol. Et al.

You might remember the quote by Mr. van Pelt, as you actually quoted him yourself:
Ninety-nine per cent of what we know we do not actually have the physical evidence to prove . . .
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The rest of why it does not mean what you think it means can be seen in this thread.

And as for why physical evidence is hard to come by you may want to read up on Sonderaktion 1005 and Paul Blobel.

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That is a picture of a bone crusher used to grind down the bones of Holocaust victims after their bodies were burned.
 
Moss said:
That is a picture of a bone crusher used to grinrryd down the bones of Holocaust victims after their bodies were burned.
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I am certainly no holocaust denier. I believe 100% that the holocaust occured.

However, I am and will forever remain unconvinced that this picture is that of a "bone crusher". It could have been taken in any number of stone producing quarries. The individuals pictured wear no uniforms of either inmates, guards or Axis soldiers.
 
jaydeehess said:
Hmmm, then where did the NWO have my plane land two weeks ago, and where was I actually born if my birth certificate is wrong? Kenya?:jaw-dropp
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Sure. Suure. Keep up the joke. Nobody will believe you anyway. No human could survive the corner of Portage and Main in the middle of January. :duck:
 
bluesjnr said:
I am certainly no holocaust denier. I believe 100% that the holocaust occured.

However, I am and will forever remain unconvinced that this picture is that of a "bone crusher". It could have been taken in any number of stone producing quarries. The individuals pictured wear no uniforms of either inmates, guards or Axis soldiers.
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The German term is Knochenmühle, the closest approximation I found to that in industrial use is bonecrusher, even though bone mill would be a closer translation.
The photo actually has a rather good provenance. According to the sources I found it was used in the concentration camp Janoswka near Lemberg.
Sure, it might also look like a machine that can be used to crush ore on a mining site, but afaik Janowska wasn't anywhere near a mine.

ETA: The depicted persons don't wear uniform as far as I can discern it. That seems to be right. However, the Leichenkommandos/corpse units were composed of concentration camp inmates like the infamous Jewish Sonderkommandos. The question now would be whether or not the secrecy of the Sonderaktion 1005 was enforced by putting them in civilian clothing to make them less obvious. That I can not answer.
 
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Saggy said:
That's physical evidence, for sure. And, it proves that there is no holohoax. 60,000,000 documents .... hidden for 50 years by whom? The hoaxers. Why - this is the best part - to protect the privacy of the 'victims'. Of course the victims were in court trying to claim their reparations, but the Bad Arolsen data was still kept secret ! It's like a really bad joke. The data is still secret except to those approved by the hoax establishment.

ALL THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE PROVES THERE WAS NO HOLOCAUST.

That's why the records are hidden.

By the way, the Russians released the Auschwitz records in the late 80's. The NAZI RECORDS are available. No holocaust at Auschwitz! Google Auschwitz Death Books for more info, they're even available from the Auschwitz museum, you can buy them.
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Ahem again, the death books only list people that weren't killed already after the Selektion. Neat little trick to reduce the work and the evidence.
Also the 50 years rule is a normal archival procedure in most cases. People do have a right to privacy.
 
Saggy, you're not going to change anyone's mind. So why do you feel the need to try?
 
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Saggy said:
Well, that's a start. Now, do you believe these people, are as the caption says, 'The Unaware Walk to the Gas Chamber'

[qimg]http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/images/Holocaust/o19.jpg[/qimg]
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They may have been fully aware.

bluesjnr said:
However, I am and will forever remain unconvinced that this picture is that of a "bone crusher".
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It looks to me like an early hoist motor, or perhaps a construction elevator.
 
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Saggy said:
Well, that's a start. Now, do you believe these people, are as the caption says, 'The Unaware Walk to the Gas Chamber'

[qimg]http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/images/Holocaust/o19.jpg[/qimg]
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You must really hate the SS, Saggy. Thousands of people willing to march off to gallows and cells in the name of the Holocaust. Can there be another organisation that has done more to hamper your search for 'truth' than the SS?

I bet it's put you off chicken for life.
 
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