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World War Three Coming Soon?

Sassy, now THAT is the picture to use on that Bush billboard reading "Miss me yet?" ;)
 
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Actually, my opinion that a great many on the more militant Left are sided with Islamic Extremism in some kind of grand "anti Imperialist" alliance has been confrimed by this thread.
 
I would like Capt Sassy to explain what the US should have done on 9/12, since he seems to oppose any action against Islamic extremism whatsoever.
 
Cynic said:
No, was arguing hypocrisy.
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Unless there's moral equivalency how can it be hypocrisy? It's only hypocrisy if you assume moral equivalency. Which you are doing, of course, even though you can't bring yourself to admit it.
 
WildCat said:
If we're drawing the line at "taking over the middle east" I take it we'll never see you opposing any military activity that falls short of that standard?
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Dudalb suggested this outcome of a US withrdawal. I found it far fetched.

An Iranian invasion of another country is far different from supporting irregular fighters in a proxy war. This is something the US also does/has done. Should the Soviets have launched an attack on the USA because of support for the Contras?
 
dudalb said:
SO you approve the Iranian seizure of hostages. Nice.
Of course, if you lose all credibility if you appeal to international law in the future.
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I said nothing of the sort. I implied nothing of the sort, and you are fully aware of that. Your sophomoric taunts are indicative of nothing but the abject bankruptcy of your position.

Try again when you're ready to attempt an adult conversation.
 
quadraginta said:
I said nothing of the sort. I implied nothing of the sort, and you are fully aware of that. Your sophomoric taunts are indicative of nothing but the abject bankruptcy of your position.

Try again when you're ready to attempt an adult conversation.
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It was not chosen at random by the students who took the hostages. It was a clear statement that the U.S. had forfeited diplomatic privilege by years of overt abuse of that privilege.

Even more disingenuous is the comparison and suggestion of some sort of equivalence between a political act of theater involving the detention and ultimate release of a relative handful, and the unprovoked invasion of a sovereign nation by six divisions of troops, air, and sea forces in a naked grab for oil resources.
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That sounds an awful lot like a justification of the Embassy seizure to me.
Trying to diguise Justifications as Explanations is an old game.
 
Captain.Sassy said:
Dudalb suggested this outcome of a US withrdawal. I found it far fetched.
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So how many deaths from Iranian-supported terrorist acts does there have to be before we consider Iran a belligerant state?

Please give a precise number.
 
WildCat said:
So how many deaths from Iranian-supported terrorist acts does there have to be before we consider Iran a belligerant state?

Please give a precise number.
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Okay as soon as you tell me how many burning kurdish villages it takes to constitute a 'genocide'.
 
Captain.Sassy said:
Okay as soon as you tell me how many burning kurdish villages it takes to constitute a 'genocide'.
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I asked first.

And besides, you're the one who brought it up. We know that "taking over the middle east" is too much, and "fighting a proxy war" which has killed at least 10,000 is not enough.

So exactly how much control does Iran have to have over the Middle East before we should be concerned? How many deaths?
 
You are acting as if Iranian support for Hezbollah was the rationale for an invasion. It isn't.

As for how many deaths due to a simmering low-level conflict the US should accept before it steps in on its ally's behalf and invades a country, this is a different question altogether. Should the US step in the next time Pakistan and India fire an artillery salvo at each other? Whether or not you like to admit it, hostility in the Middle East towards Israel is partly Israel's own fault. Neither Hezbollah nor Hamas pose any kind of existential threat towards Israel, nor will they for the foreseeable future of reality.

Your turn.
 
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dudalb said:
That sounds an awful lot like a justification of the Embassy seizure to me.
Trying to diguise Justifications as Explanations is an old game.
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Piffle. Claiming that an understanding of motives is the equivalent of supporting them is an even older one, and far more dishonest.

I say I can understand why someone did something. You assert that is proof that I condone what they did. If you actually believe that then you have a stupid belief. If you do not then you are not sincere in your contributions to this discussion.

So. You pick. Are you stupid, or dishonest? You haven't left yourself any other alternatives.
 
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