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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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Nah problem.

I take it you were being sarcastic and not really asking what the high school diploma. I was half wondering, especially upon noticing how close it was from the Australian term you'd be familiar with...

But, yes, the whole intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy is getting annoying to me too.
 
I've been on this planet many years, have a college degree, and have taken post graduate courses, and I never remember hearing the term lie of omission before putting up this thread.
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Lies of commission AND omission have been mentioned for many decades in the media, with those of omission being more common, as the users of the practice are more common... in every perjorative sense of that word also.
 
I didn't say you attacked (me) the messenger but others certainly have, and it always seems to come after I make what I think is an effective post.

I think it portrays some skeptics in here as bitter people incapable of a civilized discussion on this topic without degenerating into personal attacks and shock language; and I think that hurts the image of skepticism.

But what you seem to missing is this is exactly the kind of response that has driven people to resort to the sniping, you have provided nothing additional of substance to continue the discussion. My post was primarily about my observations regarding Greenleaf and the fact that the methods that he used to support his opinion do not seem to conform to current legal opinion and was thus irrelevant to the OP. You completely ignored the substantive portion of the post. Instead you use it as a vehicle to lash out at your perceived attackers.

Please help me understand what you mean by ‘effective post’

It is complete and provides substantive information that is difficult to rebut or counter.
If this is what you mean, I have rebutted your post in regard to Greenleaf’s relevance and it is up to you to now find fault with my argument. I am waiting.​

It gathers a large number of responses many of then strongly worded and angry.
If this is what you mean then this is crossing the line into troll territory. In this case you would probably deserve what you get.​

I recognize that I have presented the extreme ends of the spectrum. What do you consider to be the measure of an effective post?
 
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I've been on this planet many years, have a college degree, and have taken post graduate courses,
Did you pass any of them?

Now, how about replying to some of the other posts, which you seem to be ignoring, such as Waterman's about Greenleaf?
 
But what you seem to missing is this is exactly the kind of response that has driven people to resort to the sniping, you have provided nothing additional of substance to continue the discussion. My post was primarily about my observations regarding Greenleaf and the fact that the methods that he used to support his opinion do not seem to conform to current legal opinion and was thus irrelevant to the OP. You completely ignored the substantive portion of the post. Instead you use it as a vehicle to lash out at your perceived attackers.

Please help me understand what you mean by ‘effective post’

It is complete and provides substantive information that is difficult to rebut or counter.
If this is what you mean, I have rebutted your post in regard to Greenleaf’s relevance and it is up to you to now find fault with my argument. I am waiting.
It gathers a large number of responses many of then strongly worded and angry.
If this is what you mean then this is crossing the line into troll territory. In this case you would probably deserve what you get.
I recognize that I have presented the extreme ends of the spectrum. What do you consider to be the measure of an effective post?
Ya know, when I forst got here, there was a poster in R&P named Iacchus. He was a Swedenborgian, kinda, who posted some amazing bullpuckey. No one in a thread would take his points seriously, or engage him straight on. I figured that I would.

A wiser and more experienced poster, who's name sound quite a bit like "Nercutio", tryed to advise me that I was butting up against a brick wall of ignorance and that my tactic had been tried time and time again. But I wouldn't listen, and persisted. Thinking, hoping beyond all evidence that if I said some right phrase, some little morsel of wisdom would seep into the skull o' Iacchus and he'd see the light and stop being a moron.

I lost it very shortly thereafter. I can't find the post now, but I 'sploded. I realized then that I couldn't take the rambling diatribes of a nameless, faceless poster on the intertubes all that seriously. If they don't want to engage in honest debate, mockery is all I have for them now. We don't have to agree, but an honest consideration of the posts is necessary.

So, why am I writing this to you, Waterman? I'm passing on the advice, here five years later, that I got from that wise and wooly poster. Don't let him get to you. There are 10,000+ posts in this thread, none of them have advanced the stated purpose of the OP. DOC is not an honest poster, he will not give your posts, no matter how carefully constructed, their just due. He'll continue posting his drivel until the cows come home to roost*. If you care to "play for the lurkers", then fine, but do not expect any honesty from this one, the Force is weak in him.







*Yes, I know damned well that cows don't roost, but I just like that mental image of an 800 lB cow, sitting gracefully on a fence post, loudly mooing in the sunrise. Moo-moo-moo-moo-MOO!
 
Maybe they don't, but I have it on good authority that sheep do...
The sheep are not just up in the tress, there are billions of two legged ones too. They group on Sundays, are sweet for a few hours, if that, and it is back to being Ass Holes again.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
What a waste of time the last 15 or so posts were. I skimmed through a few but its the same ol', same ol', let's get DOC. The good news is that my close to 1700 posts are out there and probably 95% have nothing to do with big bad DOC. So all the trashing in the world you do is only related to probably 5% of the posts. The other approx 95% is related to non-DOC information. You might fool some with the big bad DOC red herring but the important info is out there for anyone willing to take the time to read it.
 
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What a waste of time the last 15 or so posts were. I skimmed through a few but its the same ol', same ol', let's get DOC. The good news is that my close to 1700 posts are out there and probably 95% have nothing to do with big bad DOC. So all the trashing in the world you do is only related to probably 5% of the posts. The other approx 95% is related to the topic. You might fool some with the big bad DOC red herring but the info is out there for anyone willing to take the time to read it.

Well, you've proved something. Perplexingly, it appears to be that you, unlike many of us here, have not read your own posts.
 
What a waste of time the last 15 or so posts were. I skimmed through a few but its the same ol', same ol', let's get DOC. The good news is that my close to 1700 posts are out there and probably 95% have nothing to do with big bad DOC. So all the trashing in the world you do is only related to probably 5% of the posts. The other approx 95% is related to the topic. You might fool some with the big bad DOC red herring but the important info is out there for anyone willing to take the time to read it.
Have you read the declaration of Independence yet?
 
Here's a summary of the last 20 posts:
[a detailed and insightful response to your post]
[a funny comment]
[a detailed and well argued response, although admittedly scathing]

[a response not to you but on the equivalent HS degrees around the world
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[question, not to DOC]
[response to question, not to DOC]
[response to response, not to DOC]
[description of what a lie is. On topic and substantive.]

[funny comment]
[funny, ribald comment]
[highly detailed, very polite and reasoned response on topic.]

[comment to insult]
[detailed and honest comment to waterman about why responding to DOC with anything other than derision is a waste of time.]
[funny comment to cow roosting]
[insult comment]
[reply to comment]
[DOC proving kmortis right.]

DOC, there were 4 comments in the last 20 posts which were on topic and could have been responded to. Instead of doing so, you simply provided evidence that Kmortis was completely correct.

Did you mean to do this? Is your real intent to make Christians look bad?
We have evidence in this thread that you helped drive away one person from christianity. Is this your real goal?
 
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