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Merged Interesting Analysis of Changing Media Attitudes toward 9/11 Alternative Theories

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This article gives a good overview of international media coverage of alternative views on 9/11 in 2009. The article makes a strong case that instead of 9/11 "Truth" disappearing or evaporating, it is receiving more neutral if not, favorable coverage.

Abstract

In the past year, in response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 attacks, nine corporate, seven public, and two independent media outlets aired analytic programs investigating the official account.

Increasingly, the issue is treated as a scientific controversy worthy of debate, rather than as a "conspiracy theory" ignoring science and common sense.

This essay presents these media analyses in the form of 18 case studies.
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Full article here.

This article gives a good overview of international media coverage of alternative views on 9/11 in 2009. The article makes a strong case that instead of 9/11 "Truth" disappearing or evaporating, it is receiving more neutral if not, favorable coverage.

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It doesn't really matter what the media attitudes are, the facts continue to speak for themselves.

Among most JREF forum members (it's been my experience), the media are looked upon with disgust for their credulous attitudes towards all types of woo. It's all about the bottom line, and sensational idiocy sells.
 
It doesn't really matter what the media attitudes are, the facts continue to speak for themselves.

Among most JREF forum members (it's been my experience), the media are looked upon with disgust for their credulous attitudes towards all types of woo. It's all about the bottom line, and sensational idiocy sells.

Except for Popular Mechanics, right?
 
it shows the attitudes changing from 9/11 being "off limits" from a marketing standpoint to it being ok to sensationalize to make a few bucks, and when they got there they found the truthers already firmly dug in
 
It doesn't really matter what the media attitudes are, the facts continue to speak for themselves.

Among most JREF forum members (it's been my experience), the media are looked upon with disgust for their credulous attitudes towards all types of woo. It's all about the bottom line, and sensational idiocy sells.

Yes..nobody can really trust the media. One minute they are on your side and hiding 9/11 and the next they are showing signs of jumping ship. Who can blame them really. They have to look to their survival after all in a post 9/11- exposure world. Still I suppose it was good for you guys while it lasted.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5622863&postcount=2236 hyperlink

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5622867&postcount=2237 other hyperlink
 
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Full article here.

This article gives a good overview of international media coverage of alternative views on 9/11 in 2009. The article makes a strong case that instead of 9/11 "Truth" disappearing or evaporating, it is receiving more neutral if not, favorable coverage.

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You are right. Now if onlty they could get this claptrap through peer review.

They take the easiest (and weakest) method of research the case study and then try to spin it.

But then again, when looking over this webpage, it isn't hard to see the bias and political spin.

So lets see them get this through an independent journal. I'd love to see it in a "peer reviewed" journal.

Why is it that truthers can't EVER be bothered to get things through peer review?
 
What an utterly bizarre article.

It talks about the "nano-thermite article" as representing some sort of sea change in the truth movement. We all know, of course, that article is a complete joke, and one of the top ten most embarrassing moments for the Truthers.

Great article! Except I saw it on the Loose Change Forum. Talk about great evidence that the Truth movement is growing, it was the only post on the board that day. SNERK!
 
Full article here.

This article gives a good overview of international media coverage of alternative views on 9/11 in 2009. The article makes a strong case that instead of 9/11 "Truth" disappearing or evaporating, it is receiving more neutral if not, favorable coverage.

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In so far as the mainstream media is concerned "inside job" = "tinfoil hat". I know you would want to think otherwise, but there it is. The fact that some media outlets, from time to time, on otherwise slow news days or lacking anything else that may sell product, will include stories about nutjob conspiracies is not proof that the conspiracy "theory" is catching on.
 
This article gives a good overview of international media coverage of alternative views on 9/11 in 2009. The article makes a strong case that instead of 9/11 "Truth" disappearing or evaporating, it is receiving more neutral if not, favorable coverage.


Well, on a skim, there’s a post hoc, numerous petitios and the lack of a methodology, but other than that, sure.
 
I've watched programs about ghosts, faked moon landings, big foot, Titanic raising, alien encounters and a host of other woo. None of these have gained any traction, what makes "truthers" think their ideas will, considering they are based on the same amount of proof? Is this another "we don't need facts, only doubt"?
 
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What an utterly bizarre article.

It talks about the "nano-thermite article" as representing some sort of sea change in the truth movement. We all know, of course, that article is a complete joke, and one of the top ten most embarrassing moments for the Truthers.

Great article! Except I saw it on the Loose Change Forum. Talk about great evidence that the Truth movement is growing, it was the only post on the board that day. SNERK!

The 18 cases they study are all from 2009 and all are from international media outlets. This has nothing to do with your obsession with Loose Change.
 
Full article here.

This article gives a good overview of international media coverage of alternative views on 9/11 in 2009. The article makes a strong case that instead of 9/11 "Truth" disappearing or evaporating, it is receiving more neutral if not, favorable coverage.

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But lets start our analysis of this "paper."

Shall we begin?

In the abstract they already start showing their Woo.
This more open approach taken in the international media – I could also have included the Japanese media – might be a sign that worldwide public and corporate media organizations are positioning themselves, and preparing their audiences, for a possible revelation of the truth of the claim that forces within the US government were complicit in the attacks – a revelation that would call into question the publicly given rationale for the military operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

Did you notice that? The abstract is making a unsubstantiated claim. Here I'll highlite it. That isn't what an real abstract is for in any journal article. Not unsubstantiated claims that have nothing to do with the paper you are writing.

Lets continue.
First paragraph of the "paper"
Until 2009, doubts about the official 9/11 story were briefly entertained by the mainstream media on each anniversary of the event, allowing the independent research community only a fleeting moment once a year to publicly voice its findings.

Where is a single citation? Not one. Go figure. Making a claim w/out any citaitons. Tsk tsk tsk.

And it doesn't get any better. Massive claims follow in the next two sentences, but no citations are made. wow. I could tear apart each starting sentence in this "introduction" for failing to provide citations to support the claims... but that is too easy.

The introduction is all over the place, but we steadily get into the WOO.

Nano thermite rears its ugly head.
A peer-reviewed paper published in the Open Chemical Physics Journal on April 3, 2009,2 reported that a little known high-tech explosive called nano-thermite was found throughout the World Trade Center dust.

so we have a lie that it is peer reviewed, a lie that it is an "explosive" and a lie that it was found "throughout" the wtc Dust. Wowsers. Massive claims from ignorance not supported (even by the paper they claim).

They then show how unorganized they are because they segue from nanothermite into 18 case studies... wow. I mean with this APA format and the "unreacted thermite" it should be a slam dunk for some peer reviewed journal to snatch them up. They should wait by the telephone. That call will be coming soon.

I won't even delve into all of the issues with her "case studies." This is a craptacular piece O fail.

But then again looking at who the author is
Elizabeth Woodworth is a retired professional health sciences librarian

yet another truther talking about stuff outside of her education or expertise. It really is a shame.

Red, you might actually want to take an experimental design course, or a research methods class... It would keep you from falling for this crapola.

Lets get into the meat and potatoes of it though.
 
Did anybody read the article in the link? The list includes
1. National Geographic coverage of 911 - and we all know how that went.
2. FOX News - and we all know where FOX News stands on 911.
3. BBC Conspiracy Files.
4. Jessie Ventura
as examples of media coverage of 911.

Almost all the others were outside the USA, particularly Europe and NZ.

I'm not sure it says much of anything except that the USA has finally run dry as a source of support for 911 Truth and they have had to make their way outside of the USA. It'll grab a bunch of attention until it gets killed by local scientists and engineers. A bunch of mostly young loosers will hang onto the idea believing it's somehow anti-American. The irony would be if they started sending money to the right-wing pro-American isolationist whackos that support the idea in the USA.

But the reality is that 911 Truth will remain a phenomena that almost no one will have heard of. It will remain found only through experience with Youtube, Facebook and other Internet forums - which is to say, it does not exist.
 
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What an utterly bizarre article. It talks about the "nano-thermite article" as representing some sort of sea change in the truth movement. We all know, of course, that article is a complete joke, and one of the top ten most embarrassing moments for the Truthers.
Well, on a skim, there’s a post hoc, numerous petitios and the lack of a methodology, but other than that, sure.


Indeed. It presupposes the legitimacy of that "paper" and thus the existence of thermite. That was once such petitio.
 
The 18 cases they study are all from 2009 and all are from international media outlets. This has nothing to do with your obsession with Loose Change.

What does "international media outlet" refer to? It has a webpage? It circulates paper volumes internationally? If that's the case, several of their examples are wrong. Programs filmed in Dutch, Norway and German languages may make it to international viewing, but they would hardly be "international media outlets" except for the fact that their signals can be picked up outside the borders of these nations. Interestingly, three of these examples are Norwegian.

In any case, no. 7 the Metroactive and the Santa Barbara Independent are in no sense "international media outlets"

Oh, I forgot, no. 13 was the case where he got roasted by the NZ radio host. There's a link to this some on JREF.

About one-quarter of the reports cited were scathing attacks on Gage and 911 Truth. And if the writers are willing to cite the Santa Barbara Independent as a source, there must be zillions of similarly placed news sources that have whacked Gage and the others.
 
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