Split Thread Judy Wood and dustification

Unsecured Coins said:
then why was the collapse from the top? And correct me if I'm wrong, but are you now saying space beams AND thermite brought down the towers, and not just planes filled with people you don't think existed?
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I have built a reasonable case for the nanothermite but I sometimes feel I have been led by the nose to some of my conclusions.

I find some of the Judy Wood's stuff compelling, not least the Hurricane and the weirdly rusting cars and so on.

So I want to talk eventually about whether there was really molten steel and whether the pile was really hot for so long and so on.

I want to find out what is behind the Jones/Wood schism and that kind of thing.
 
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jay howard said:
Show me a testable claim and I'll show you a scientific theory. It may be an incorrect scientific theory, but a scientific one nonetheless.

Do you understand the difference? If you know a damned thing about what science is, you'd better.
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jammonius said:
Be careful with yor absolutes. You probably did not see everyone and thus do not know what sort of skin indicators of DEW they may have had. Here's one example for consideration. I can tell you, in case you're interested, there are many others:
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You've never done any welding, have you?

A couple million people were watching the towers collapse. None of them are now blind as a result.
 
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Hokulele said:
How does someone get hit by a DEW and not become "dustified"?
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See the dust at his feet. He's dustifiying just like the towers. Probably will go into freefall in 90 minutes or so.
 
tsig said:
See the dust at his feet. He's dustifiying just like the towers. Probably will go into freefall in 90 minutes or so.
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I'd be interested in reports of watch strap buckles disintegrating and stuff like that. Metal objects on individuals,
 
bill smith said:
The running man. I picture a photographer maybe on one knee in the middle of the road. It's just too chocolate-boxy if you know what I mean. Where are all the other people running ?
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See those little piles of dust along the road?
 
GlennB said:
Careful, dropzone, or some dolt will pick up your comment and turn it into the ERR (Enhanced Rapid Rustification) theory of WTC collapse.
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All you need is nano-oxygen. As we all know it speeds up Rustification by many fold therefore leading to Extremenly Enhanced Rapid Rustification generating intense long lasting heat.
 
According to FEMA, 350,000 tons of steel was recovered from GZ. Each of the towers had around 100,000 tons of steel. Hence, all the steel was accounted for.

nothing was turned to "dust". Sorry Ms. Wood.
 
jammonius said:
Here we have "hollow aluminum tubes" aka jetliners delivering TNT kinetic energy to wires and small bridges. Well, guess what, the tubes didn't fare very well did they?

http://nomoregames.net/911/we_have_holes/bunker_buster_boeings.jpg
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You look up idiotic lies and post them. You did it again with those photos of very low energy crashes. Physics, knowledge of the real world comes in handy so you don't expose your ignorance on reality.

The impacts you posted were slow speed. Energy of an impact is Energy = 1/2 m v2. This is simple physics and you failed to use science to avoid posting dirt dumb delusions.

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I use water to cut metal, you use google to spread lies. Want to talk physics to an engineer with a masters degree, and a command pilot rated by the FAA to fly heavy jets? Oops, you just did, but you forgot to bring the physics.

The energy of the impacts on 911 was 1300 and 2093 pounds of TNT; this is similar in energy to a 2000 pound bomb which can completely destroy small buildings.
Got physics?
NO, you have delusions and you post them without thinking, you repeat lies from idiots like the idiot who did the nomoregame.net web site of stupid junk on 911.
You google to find lies on 911 and post them, and expose your lack of knowledge in physics and 911.
 
When is Judy Wood & the Truthers going to get that the Death Star & the Death Star II were blown up in 1977 by Luke Skywalker & in 1983 by Lando Calrission?

I might be a big walking carpet by I know that the mighty Galactic Truther Empire won't be able to stand up against a farm boy, a smuggler, a princess, 2 droids & the whole Rebellion Force. Clearly Judy Wood & the Truthers are on the Dark Side of Insanity!

(Walks away, lowers head and says: "Space beams? SPACE BEAMS?!?! LMAO!")
 
beachnut said:
You look up idiotic lies and post them. You did it again with those photos of very low energy crashes. Physics, knowledge of the real world comes in handy so you don't expose your ignorance on reality.

The impacts you posted were slow speed. Energy of an impact is Energy = 1/2 m v2. This is simple physics and you failed to use science to avoid posting dirt dumb delusions.

[qimg]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/1LowSpeedCrash.jpg[/qimg]

I use water to cut metal, you use google to spread lies. Want to talk physics to an engineer with a masters degree, and a command pilot rated by the FAA to fly heavy jets? Oops, you just did, but you forgot to bring the physics.

The energy of the impacts on 911 was 1300 and 2093 pounds of TNT; this is similar in energy to a 2000 pound bomb which can completely destroy small buildings.
Got physics?
NO, you have delusions and you post them without thinking, you repeat lies from idiots like the idiot who did the nomoregame.net web site of stupid junk on 911.
You google to find lies on 911 and post them, and expose your lack of knowledge in physics and 911.
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Hey beachnut,

Well, it certainly doesn't sound like you're willing to engage in discussion based on your tone. But, let me just doublecheck: Will you consider having a reasoned discussion on crash physics, using the known 9/11 video information to illustrate various points?

By "reasoned discussion" I mean one where you're willing to exchange ideas, debate back and forth, in a respectful tone, without a lot of presumptuous name calling.

On the other hand, if there's no information you're willing to consider that calls into question how on earth jetliners could glide through the Twin Towers, from nose to tail, wing tip to wing tip without slowing and without degrading, then fine, we can forego discussion.

Instead, I will simply leave the matter at this:
66_Roadrunner.jpg
 
jammonius said:
Hey beachnut,

Well, it certainly doesn't sound like you're willing to engage in discussion based on your tone. But, let me just doublecheck: Will you consider having a reasoned discussion on crash physics, using the known 9/11 video information to illustrate various points?

By "reasoned discussion" I mean one where you're willing to exchange ideas, debate back and forth, in a respectful tone, without a lot of presumptuous name calling.

On the other hand, if there's no information you're willing to consider that calls into question how on earth jetliners could glide through the Twin Towers, from nose to tail, wing tip to wing tip without slowing and without degrading, then fine, we can forego discussion.

Instead, I will simply leave the matter at this:
[qimg]http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/why/whypics/66_Roadrunner.jpg[/qimg]
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Jammonius,

Everyone here is willing to hear what you have to say, but we demand that you show us the evidence first before mouthing off like you are doing now.

All talk, no walk!

BTW: Nice doctored pic of the roadrunners cartoon cutout on the Tower. Too bad you're Wile E. Coyote who can't catch that bird!
 
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jammonius said:
Hey beachnut,

Well, it certainly doesn't sound like you're willing to engage in discussion based on your tone. But, let me just doublecheck: Will you consider having a reasoned discussion on crash physics, using the known 9/11 video information to illustrate various points?
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The physics of "dustifying" steel isn't rocket science. The math is high school level physics. Pay attention to beachnut and Mackey. They know what they are talking about.

There are no eyewitnesses that describe anything like a beam device at WTC. A couple million people were watching the collapse.

Nobody was made blind.

Nobody got a suntan.
 
jammonius said:
On the other hand, if there's no information you're willing to consider that calls into question how on earth jetliners could glide through the Twin Towers, from nose to tail, wing tip to wing tip without slowing and without degrading, then fine, we can forego discussion.
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To tell you the truth, I'd be questioning the "offical story" if this happened. (We all know it didn't)
 
jammonius said:
On the other hand, if there's no information you're willing to consider that calls into question how on earth jetliners could glide through the Twin Towers, from nose to tail, wing tip to wing tip without slowing and without degrading, then fine, we can forego discussion.
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I don't know what's worse, arguments from simple, ignorant personal incredulity, or massive straw man building.

I guess it's a toss up. I agree with DGM--if I thought the planes did that I'd be questioning the "official story" too. Too bad what happened to the planes once they entered the building was studied exhaustively by Purdue University (you've read their paper about it, right?) and your little feeble straw man is only a transparent debate tactic. Well, I guess the government told THEM what to think too, huh?
 
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