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pgimeno said:
There's a lot of paper on the ground near the edge of the road, of which a bit surely would burn if that was molten metal. I see no smoke coming from there.

[ETA:] Furthermore, I seem to distinguish some papers also illuminated in the sunlit part.
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It''s funny that you say that. I seem to remember some other photographs of fires burning on 9/11 and yet the paper around did not seem to burn. Odd isn't it ?
 
I'm talking about the paper in direct contact with the sunlight.

It's not odd that paper which is not reached by fire or hot materials doesn't burn.
 
bill smith said:
It''s funny that you say that. I seem to remember some other photographs of fires burning on 9/11 and yet the paper around did not seem to burn. Odd isn't it ?
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Hi Bill, here's an experiment you can do. Start a fire(caution do not do this inside), throw a book on it and let the fire burn out. How many pages burnt?
 
bill smith said:
It''s funny that you say that. I seem to remember some other photographs of fires burning on 9/11 and yet the paper around did not seem to burn. Odd isn't it ?
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It's the simple things that fascinate Bill.
 
pgimeno said:
I'm talking about the paper in direct contact with the sunlight.

It's not odd that paper which is not reached by fire or hot materials doesn't burn.
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This paper doesn't burn so well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EuWmvYMk2s pool of steel

'' Aluminum cladding and paper lay in the street, but where is the steel? And why isn't more of the paper on fire? It won't be on fire for long if that fireman gets his fire hose working. Why is it only paper that survived and not office furniture and equipment? Most of this paper must have been in steel filing cabinets and bookshelves.''
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/dewpics/Image123.jpg
 
sylvan8798 said:
Judy Wood? Really, Bill? Really?
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Absolutely. What's the problem ? She is the most technically qualified of all the scientists associated with 9/11. She's considered brilliant. Mackey could eat out of her hand for instance .
 
bill smith said:
This paper doesn't burn so well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EuWmvYMk2s pool of steel
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Let's see a frame of that video after an auto-levels (white balance) on GIMP:

fotograma-yt-4EuWmvYMk2s.jpg


Where's the fire caused by 1500+°C of molten steel touching the papers? Are you suggesting that that paper is special so that it doesn't burn or emit smoke?

And doesn't it look like the papers are visible in the sunlit zone?

bill smith said:
"[...] And why isn't more of the paper on fire? [...]"

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/dewpics/Image123.jpg
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There's more on the background burning. We have no idea why and how it started to burn and how long it's burning. The wind blows towards the background. Could you please explain why that pic is anomalous, if you think it is?
 
pgimeno said:
Let's see a frame of that video after an auto-levels (white balance) on GIMP:

[qimg]http://www.formauri.es/personal/pgimeno/xfiles/11-s/fotograma-yt-4EuWmvYMk2s.jpg[/qimg]

Where's the fire caused by 1500+°C of molten steel touching the papers? Are you suggesting that that paper is special so that it doesn't burn or emit smoke?

And yes, I am beginning to wonder if the properties of the paper might have been somehow changed. Didn't somebody say that some of the paper attached to the 'metrotites' had text that could still be read despite the meteorites being made of fused molten steel and concrete ?

And doesn't it look like the papers are visible in the sunlit zone?


There's more on the background burning. We have no idea why and how it started to burn and how long it's burning. The wind blows towards the background. Could you please explain why that pic is anomalous, if you think it is?
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I can only say hat if you are happy to say that what we see in the pic/video is sunlight, then I am happy for you to do so.
 
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bill smith said:
Absolutely. What's the problem ? She is the most technically qualified of all the scientists associated with 9/11. She's considered brilliant. Mackey could eat out of her hand for instance .
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by whom???

retards, paranoid delusionals, schizophrenics, America-haters, and bigots?
 
Without a doubt the World trade Center have been disintegrated with controlled demolition explosives , this was a very good example of controlled demolition explosives used to blow up the 110 stories tall building 1 and 2 in about 10 or 11 seconds and the WTC building seven disintegrated in about 3.5 seconds at nearly free fall speed and the remain 2.5 seconds at completely full free fall speed
 
walkrie, I asked this elsewhere, but is English your first language? Do you know what "disintegrated" means? None of the buildings on 9/11/2001 were "disintegrated." There were giant piles of rubble left behind. Thousands of people spent months removing this rubble.
 
walkyrie said:
Without a doubt the World trade Center have been disintegrated with controlled demolition explosives , this was a very good example of controlled demolition explosives used to blow up the 110 stories tall building 1 and 2 in about 10 or 11 seconds and the WTC building seven disintegrated in about 3.5 seconds at nearly free fall speed and the remain 2.5 seconds at completely full free fall speed
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Are you always off topic and wanting to execute people? Where do you come up with the moronic off topic poppycock?

Do you have a clue what the topic is? The topic is about a PhD who thinks your ideas are nonsense and you post off topic and have no idea what is going on.

bill smith is off topic also and unable to grasp reality, she just posts dirt dumb delusions from 911 truth and does not think about reality. Do you know the topic of the thread, or will you post off topic delusions without thinking about it?
 
Sorry for going on with this off-topic. There's material for splitting it to a new thread now, I think.

bill smith said:
I can only say hat if you are happy to say that what we see in the pic/video is sunlight, then I am happy for you to do so.
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That's fine. Note taken that you fail to address my questions, which I will repeat just in case you decide to change your mind and address them:

Where's the fire caused by 1500+°C of molten steel touching the papers?

Are you suggesting that that paper is special so that it doesn't burn or emit smoke?

Doesn't it look like the papers are visible in the sunlit zone?

To help you with the last one, here's another version of that frame which compensates for the saturation of the red component:

fotograma-yt-4EuWmvYMk2s-compensa-saturacion.jpg
 
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