CIT Fraud Revealed

I have a good sense of humour.
I recognise bores when i see them.
Only someone with no sense of humor ever states they have a good one. People who are completely unaware of their lack of humor feel the need to state how much of one they have.

Funny how you can recognize bores, but can't recognize boors. Or morons, for that matter.
 
Yeah but in the same breath you claim along with others that eyewitness testimony is ´unreliable´ and have stretched just how ´wrong´ they were to surreal limits.

If you seriously believe that the program which made the Physical Sun and Sky images is "crap", you may not want to get into any structure. vehicle or machine designed by AutoCAD, as its the same company.


You do understand the difference between drafting software and design software, yes?
 
Where in the image posted above does the plane have to deviate in the slightest?
It is on a direct course for the Navy Annex.

´Smith jumps in again before using the grey matter´

http://i46.tinypic.com/2im3kpe.gif

Is that a gif of how you got your head injury?

Here muddy, Here is your problem drawn directly across your "wingspan"

sheratonpaikmisspath.jpg
 
Wrong, Farmer has figured out the program. However, as demonstrated over-and-over again, it IS NOT a scientifically accurate program for forensic purposes.

For forensics, AutoCAD or Solidworks is required because they are designed for such purposes. Maya is a graphics package for animation and film making. And yes, I can use both AutoCAD and Solidworks. I work the math because it is empirical and objective. Software packages such as Maya are subjective, based on the whims of the animator. For example, the crazy flight path simulations done by P4T. The math does not check with the animation results.

FYI:

I don't base my conclusions on cartoons. I will not waste my time making one to counter P4T. I have better uses for my time. But if Rob wants to send me his complete Maya scene then I'll be happy to go over his values.


Wait, they are using Maya for this?

Mudlark, you do understand the difference between design software, drafting software, and freaking animation software, yes?
 
You´ve reposted my post but have you actually bothered your a*se to read it?

Go to bed Beachnut. Night night.
Another failed attack on CIT.
Try another NOC witness. I´ll be waiting.
Madelyn debunks CIT, CIT has to say she is wrong. Paik draws a flight path south of the Citgo, and they have to say that is wrong and present the other path he drew, he can't draw from his POV.

Go back to Balsamo and his failed pilots club, Balsamo is not an airline pilot, he is not qualified. CIT is not trained, and they can't figure out a flight path due to Balsamo's 2,223 gs of failed math.

Post the math for the path you have, or follow your own advice. Good night CIT repeater of lies and moronic delusions.

Paik supports the south flight path and your own drawing of 77 on the south of the road makes an NoC flight path impossible. You can't figure this out because you can't do the math.

I am in bed now, and can debunk you in my sleep; The sad part for CIT, no one needs to be a trained aircraft accident investigator to see CIT conclusions are idiotic delusions; dumb ideas. And there is nothing you can do to save CIT from failure. physics? any knowledge on flying?
 
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I have a good sense of humour.
I recognise bores when i see them.

Says the hero who put me on ignore because I ask for:

1. the raw video

2. the math to support the impossible flight path.

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Says the hero who put me on ignore because I ask for:

1. the raw video

2. the math to support the impossible flight path.

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Moderated content removed.

So much for ignore.
 
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Ryan was right; there's only one thing that needs to be said about CIT

And here it is:

One other thing I noticed, from the first comment thread at the OC Weekly, was yet another tantalizing glimpse into their beliefs:

CIT Craig Ranke said:
He [Schou] goes on, “-pause for circus music- a magic trick in which a military plane painted to resemble an American Airlines jet flew low over the Pentagon while explosives took down a wall of the structure in a convenient cloud of smoke, thus allowing the plane to fly away and secretly land somewhere, presumably at nearby Reagan National Airport. Unfortunately, their film The PentaCon, doesn’t provide any evidence of this.”
We don’t provide evidence for this because it is not our claim. We never said the decoy jet in question was painted to look like an AA jet and in fact we claim the opposite. The evidence we provide suggests that it did not look like an AA jet since most independent witnesses we spoke with describe different colors.

Source

This little detail is new to me. So let me see if I've got it straight:

According to the Citzen Investigation Team, the Government or whomever wanted to fool the world into thinking American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, along a certain heading that took it through several light poles and low over the freeway just prior to impact.

To do this, They executed the following:
  • They flew an aircraft over the Pentagon
  • The aircraft traveled along a different heading entirely, on the opposite side of a visible landmark (viz. the Citgo station)
  • The aircraft passed nowhere near the light poles in question
  • The light poles were sabotaged anyway, in some completely different fashion than aircraft impact
  • One light pole was staged to penetrate the windshield of a car, in traffic, again despite the actual aircraft not passing anywhere near overhead
  • A large amount of explosives was detonated as the aircraft passed by
  • The aircraft then flew away over the Pentagon, where it was allegedly sighted by at least one individual
  • The explosion or whatever demolition carried out at the Pentagon left a hole far too small to have been caused by AA 77
  • A readable flight data recorder (FDR) was planted (along with an insufficient amount of aircraft debris) that allegedly conflicts with both Their false story and the track of the actual aircraft
And, finally,
  • The aircraft in question was deliberately painted so as to not even resemble an American Airlines jetliner.
I am reasonably certain that the above is the stupidest hypothesis ever conceived for any purpose, including parody, intentional humor, or even stress tests of human perception in psychological experiments.

In the future, I plan to take no notice whatsoever of the Citizens Investigation Team, other than to link back to this post. From here, there is simply no return. I deeply pity the minds that are snared by such utter madness.

That was posted 21st August 2008. And nothing they've done has given anyone any reason to reconsider current opinion regarding their sanity or rationality. It's ignore time for the CIT fanboy.
 
That was posted 21st August 2008. And nothing they've done has given anyone any reason to reconsider current opinion regarding their sanity or rationality. It's ignore time for the CIT fanboy.


Ignore? But, but, but, I just learned that they are using Maya, freaking animation software out of all of the products currently on the market, to prove their point. They are finally talking about something I have a bit of expertise in. :(

(And I am willing to prove my expertise via PM, not publically as I do not need a bunch of nutbars flooding my inbox.)
 
Ignore? But, but, but, I just learned that they are using Maya, freaking animation software out of all of the products currently on the market, to prove their point. They are finally talking about something I have a bit of expertise in. :(

(And I am willing to prove my expertise via PM, not publically as I do not need a bunch of nutbars flooding my inbox.)
So I should return the PayDays I bought for you?
 
Ignore? But, but, but, I just learned that they are using Maya, freaking animation software out of all of the products currently on the market, to prove their point. They are finally talking about something I have a bit of expertise in. :(

(And I am willing to prove my expertise via PM, not publically as I do not need a bunch of nutbars flooding my inbox.)

Actually, I was only announcing what I was going to do. If you can find a new way to apply a smackdown to an old punching bag, go for it! I didn't think there were any new routes over such well-traveled territory, but leave it to CIT to find another way to fail. I sure as heck don't object to yet another comeuppance to such a group of deliberately obtuse idiots. In fact, I'd actually like to see that. I may even keep Mudlark off of ignore for a while just to watch. :popcorn3
 
Actually, I was only announcing what I was going to do. If you can find a new way to apply a smackdown to an old punching bag, go for it! I didn't think there were any new routes over such well-traveled territory, but leave it to CIT to find another way to fail. I sure as heck don't object to yet another comeuppance to such a group of deliberately obtuse idiots. In fact, I'd actually like to see that. I may even keep Mudlark off of ignore for a while just to watch. :popcorn3


It is just that it is so rare that one of the various CTists will post something about something I can actually speak to with some authority, I have to take every chance I get. I think the last time that happened, jammonius wanted to discuss Triangulated Irregular Networks (TINs), and everyone else promptly fell into a coma.

Hmph. :sulk:
 
It is just that it is so rare that one of the various CTists will post something about something I can actually speak to with some authority, I have to take every chance I get. I think the last time that happened, jammonius wanted to discuss Triangulated Irregular Networks (TINs), and everyone else promptly fell into a coma.

Hmph. :sulk:

On the contrary, jammonius was the only one KO'ed by that. But I think he was an example of walking unconsciousness to begin with :boggled:...

But I thought it rocked. Seriously. The point had already been well proven, but you stuck it to him with his own images (or at least images he asked for... trying to remember). Note that he petered out just a page or two after you did that. The data he was all gung-ho about ended up refuting his argument. I thought it was the cherry on top of the sundae in that thread.

So don't feel bad. I loved it.
 
On the contrary, jammonius was the only one KO'ed by that. But I think he was an example of walking unconsciousness to begin with :boggled:...

But I thought it rocked. Seriously. The point had already been well proven, but you stuck it to him with his own images (or at least images he asked for... trying to remember). Note that he petered out just a page or two after you did that. The data he was all gung-ho about ended up refuting his argument. I thought it was the cherry on top of the sundae in that thread.

So don't feel bad. I loved it.


:blush:
 
I swear, I had nothing to do with, er, someone's reappearance in a totally unrelated thread. I thought the name had to be mentioned three times for a summoning.
You don't get out of it that easy!

We still blame you!
 
Hokulele summons jammonius

It is just that it is so rare that one of the various CTists will post something about something I can actually speak to with some authority, I have to take every chance I get. I think the last time that happened, jammonius wanted to discuss Triangulated Irregular Networks (TINs), and everyone else promptly fell into a coma.

Hmph. :sulk:


You had to mention that name? Like magic. The critical sphincter is back posting on another thread.
 
ElMondoHummas said:
That was posted 21st August 2008.

Jeez, it's been that long?! I remember when that was posted. This whole CIT nonsense is just a dog chasing its own tail.....around and around and around and around and around...
 

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