Almost 3,000 new photos released today of the WTC Collapse

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Truther mentality: 2,779 pictures are "fakes"!

 

[Thunder]

Lots of them seem to be credited to NYPD helicopter pilot Greg Semen-dinger.

hmmmm....Jewish perhaps? that explains everything!!!

 

[fitzgibbon]

Truther mentality seems to be that some lone, lonely CTer pounding oput '9/11 was an inside job'-type posts repeatedly in the comments section of the story on the Globe and Mail website amounts to something Evidence of a sad little man with a sad little life

 

[Retrograde]

Picture 3 shows those "office fires" that could have been tackled with a few hundred fire extinguishers..

Let's not be sarcastic now: maybe what we're really looking at are the interior walls, and the people who owned the buildings thought that bright, blazing orange would be a suitably relaxing color for office spaces. Or they got a really good deal on International Orange paint. I'm sure the truthers have a perfectly reasonable non-reality based explanation for this picture.

 

[Mangoose]

The Greg Semendinger photos have been public for a long time; I have all the ones on the BBC website and most have original EXIF data on them. Would like to see some other photos, especially views of the WTC1 collapse *not* from a northerly vantage point.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Call Randi for your check!

ATTN: James Randi.

Will trade my share of the money for a date with Jessica Simpson.

 

[KDLarsen]

We probably can't - I'd assume they have to negotiate with the copyright owners before they can put them online.

If all of the photos were taken by the NYPD helicopters, as the article makes it sound like, wouldn't they automatically be in public domain as the work of the US government?

 

[tfk]

Expect to hear 2,779 comments like "See the way that thing goes like that? That doesn't look right" or "That doesn't look like something you'd see in a normal collapse, definately controlled demolition" or "Those are the telltale signs of nanothermite detonations".

My bet:

"It should NOT look like that!"

Sane person: "What should it look like?"

"I don't propose theories. I just ask questions.

So, I don't know how it should look. But I know for certain it should NOT look like that!"

 

[Thunder]

look at those clouds of dust!!

looks just like a volcano. perhaps the Mossad opened up a fault line under Manhattan, and used the lava to melt the steel beams of the WTC?

who needs thermite when you got lava!!!!!!

 

[Edx]

My bet:

This is in fact Gage's exact way of arguing.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

If all of the photos were taken by the NYPD helicopters, as the article makes it sound like, wouldn't they automatically be in public domain as the work of the US government?

city police departments aren't part of the US (federal) government, so that wouldn't apply to them, it may still be public domain but it would depend on laws in the city and state of new york

 

[NYCEMT86]

I am not an expert on copyright laws, but from what I read, they belong to Greg Semendinger, not the NYPD. I think this is common in any chain of custody, once the government (9/11 Commission and NIST) are done with them, they can be turned back over to the owner.

 

[BigAl]

I am not an expert on copyright laws, but from what I read, they belong to Greg Semendinger, not the NYPD. I think this is common in any chain of custody, once the government (9/11 Commission and NIST) are done with them, they can be turned back over to the owner.

Correct, maybe.

If they were personal property, how would FOIA apply? Reports say that an FOIA request was what released the pics.

They were shot on company (taxpayer) time and in a NYPD helo.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Correct, maybe.

If they were personal property, how would FOIA apply? Reports say that an FOIA request was what released the pics.

They were shot on company (taxpayer) time and in a NYPD helo.

yeah, if they were taken as part of his duties as an NY police officer they would belong to the NYPD

 

[Sam.I.Am]

As long as you are on the clock your work product technically belongs to your employer. It might get a bit ambiguous if it was his own personal camera and film but he was still on the clock. It's a moot point as whoever owned the rights obviously already gave permission for them to be released.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

The pilot's name alone is evidence of fraud.

Nobody has a name like that in real life, except for maybe Mrs. Bernice Smegmachasm, and the esteemed Dr. Loadsworth P. Jiggleballs.

_{Pictured: Dr. Loadsworth P. Jiggleballs, M.D.}​

 

[gumboot]

I am pretty sure the photos were just photographs he took himself while he happened to be up there, and not as part of his job. After the attacks he distributed some of the photos to friends, online, and so forth of his own volition. I can't see a police officer doing that with photos that he took as part of his duties (and therefore belonging to the police).

Bear in mind it wouldn't really make sense for photographs to be part of a rescue helicopter's role, and if it were part of his role, why only five rolls of film? You'd think the helicopter would have tonnes more.

More likely, he had previously caught on to the fact that being in the police chopper gave him an opportunity to take stunning photographs, so he took his camera with him every time he went up.

 

[ref]

It's best to go directly to the source

ABC News has asked for permission to publish more of the images, the rights to which are still retained by the organizations or private individuals who originally took them.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/newly-released-sept-11-photos-world-trade-center/story?id=9798856

Also this from the photographer:

Semendinger — who took all the photos posted by ABC — said Wednesday that he had previously e-mailed some of the pictures to friends who later posted them on the Internet. Also, nine of the images were published in a book called "Above Hallowed Ground: A Photographic Record of Sept. 11" without his consent. The book was a tribute to the officers who were killed that day.

Semendinger was first in the air in a search for survivors on the rooftop. He said he and his pilot watched the second plane hit the south tower from the helicopter. "We didn't find one single person. It was surreal," he said. "There was no sound. No sound whatsoever, but the noise of the radio and the helicopter. I just kept taking pictures."

He took three rolls of film with his Minolta camera, plus 245 digital shots. Semendinger said that he gave the digital images to the 9/11 Commission that investigated the attack, and that the commission evidently released the pictures to NIST.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wirestory?id=9796098&page=2

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Those damn Truthers will stop at nothing. All they can claim is this & that & not even give any evidence to back them up.

Truthers will continue to be losers in the realm of reality.

 

[aggle-rithm]

The pilot's name alone is evidence of fraud.

Nobody has a name like that in real life, except for maybe Mrs. Bernice Smegmachasm, and the esteemed Dr. Loadsworth P. Jiggleballs.

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_{Pictured: Dr. Loadsworth P. Jiggleballs, M.D.}​

"Kosnowski is a very old and respected name. It means 'Help, there's a hog in the kitchen'."
--Lenny Kosnowski, trying to get a pregnant girl to marry him.

"Horshack is a very old and respected name. It means, 'The cattle are dying'."
--Arnold Horshack, trying to get a pregnant girl to marry him.

All right, everyone. Back on topic!