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NYCEMT86 said:
Who needs all those hose and pumping capacity when you can use one of these!!!

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Well offices are usually kitted out with fire extinguishers where the use of one or more will normally put out an office fire.

Then NIST describes all of the fires after the fuel burned off as 'office fires'. So when the fires started in WTC7 it would have been a simple matter to put them out using requisitioned extinguishers.

Or do you have some tortured reasoning whereby it would have been impossible ?
 
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You cannot trust these firefighters. Richard Gage has already called the head of the firefighting operations a liar and wants him subpeona'd. Richard knows they could have fought WTC 7 and put it out.

There is just so much evidence against the firefighters. There is the group that knew that WTC 7 was going to come down because they were going to "pull it". And then many of them lied saying there was fires at every level on WTC 7, just because there was smoke coming out at every level.

As Bill says, although they had lost hundreds of colleagues, if they were really brave the firemen could have fought the multiple level WTC7 fires with fire extinguishers. That way they could have saved the building, to enable it to be demolished a few years later, like Deutche Bank.

However I do believe the testimony from the hundreds of firefighters that reported explosions, since it is part of our evidence proving CD. But I am amazed that hardly any of them has signed the Firefighters for 9/11 Truth Petition, when they actually heard the explosions. ! You can't trust them.

And I don't know what I think of the fireman who reached the fires in the towers and looked at the underside and said there are only two pockets of fire here. Everyone knows heat rises and I am sure he would have had a different opinion if he had got on top of the fire.

And finally the firefighters were all over the debris pile and would have seen the evidence of explosives during the clear up. They must be in on it.!
 
bill smith said:
You mean the damage to the Twin Towers ? How much real damage can a plane weighing one three-hundreth of one percent the weight of the building do ? Especially when that proportionally tiny weight is spread thinly over a very large area with much of it composed of aluminium some as thin as 1 mm ?
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About as much damage as a 203 grain soft tip 7.62X54R bullet will do to a 500+pound moose's head.

It's not just a matter of weight and strength of the material, but the speed, thus the energy available when it impacts the target.
 
take the led point of a bullet, and push it against a wall, and it aint gonna do much damage.

move it at 2,000 ft. per second, and you have a whole different outcome.

but of course, Truthers fail to understand this.

or they make believe, they don't understand this.

i suggest the latter.
 
Readers note. This is a prime example of these guys trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Could they really looking for the Truth ?

If this small ,hard dense bullet was hammered out flat like the aluminium of the plane . Say it would make a sheet two feet square and one millimeter thick. Now how much damage is that going to do ? You have to watch for these tricks that they try to pull all the time.
 
Telltale Tom said:
You cannot trust these firefighters. Richard Gage has already called the head of the firefighting operations a liar and wants him subpeona'd. Richard knows they could have fought WTC 7 and put it out.
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Not without water. There was no water at WTC because of damage to the underground pipes.

Gage is a coward.
 
Telltale Tom said:
You cannot trust these firefighters. Richard Gage has already called the head of the firefighting operations a liar and wants him subpeona'd.

There is just so much evidence against the firefighters. There is the group that knew that WTC 7 was going to come down because they were going to "pull it". And then many of them lied saying there was fires at every level on WTC 7, just because there was smoke coming out at every level.

As Bill says, although they had lost hundreds of colleagues, if they were really brave the firemen could have fought the multiple level WTC7 fires with fire extinguishers.

You can't trust them.

And finally the firefighters were all over the debris pile and would have seen the evidence of explosives during the clear up. They must be in on it.!
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um..is this guy for real? Isn't it standard operating procedure for 9-11 Truthers NOT to accuse members of the FDNY of being "in on it"???

or this this just a rogue truther?

or just a troll.
 
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bill smith said:
Readers note. This is a prime example of these guys trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Could they really looking for the Truth ?

If this small ,hard dense bullet was hammered out flat like the aluminium of the plane . Say it would make a sheet two feet square and one millimeter thick. Now how much damage is that going to do ? You have to watch for these tricks that they try to pull all the time.
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Exactly Bill. I guess that is why engineers don't design tall buildings for plane impact. Because planes are made of thin aluminum and can't damage hard steel.

Reader's note: I'm not sure that they are trying to pull the wool over your eyes. I think these people are just stupid.
 
parky76 said:
um..is this guy for real? Isn't it standard operating procedure for 9-11 Truthers NOT to accuse members of the FDNY of being "in on it"???

or this this just a rogue truther?

or just a troll.
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Ferblunjit Parky I think.
 
Telltale Tom said:
Exactly Bill. I guess that is why engineers don't design tall buildings for plane impact. Because planes are made of thin aluminum and can't damage hard steel.

Reader's note: I'm not sure that they are trying to pull the wool over your eyes. I think these people are just stupid.
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Damn tootin' Tom.
 
is it possible...actually possible..that BOTH Bill and this new guy, are crypto-Debunkers?

:)
 
bill smith said:
You mean the damage to the Twin Towers ? How much real damage can a plane weighing one three-hundreth of one percent the weight of the building do ? Especially when that proportionally tiny weight is spread thinly over a very large area with much of it composed of aluminium some as thin as 1 mm ?
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Please explain bullets.
 
bill smith said:
A proportion were paid or coerced Shills. I thought you would have known that.
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Do you have any evidence that any member of the FDNY was paid off or coerced to give false statements or testimony?

Of course you don't.

All you do is lie.
 
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Ok, take that bullet, flatten it out, fire it at something at 200 feet per second, and it will slice shatever it is.

Wanna try again??


LOOK AT THOSE GOALPOSTS GO!!! WOOT!!
 
bill smith A proportion were paid or coerced Shills. I thought you would have known that.

prove it.

and btw, the word is "portion", NOT "proportion".
 
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