ACORN filmmaker arrested

leftysergeant said:
The logistics of on-line wagers are inconvenient.
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Actually, the fine people at Bodog will be happy to help organize a prop bet. For a piece of the action, of course. Would you like their phone number?

Now what defense can you possibly think of that the maggots can offer?
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What evidence have you offered of a felony?

It is clear that they committed a crime
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Strangely, federal prosecutors see things differently.

and just getting a look at the telephone circuits is not going to be anything major, and the pimp did promise something major, so it is clear that they had more than criminal tresspass in mind.
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Perhaps he is sending a Ho Train to Drew Bress' house for a post SuperBowl party.

What truth can the pimp possibly tell us that excuses his actions?
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Technically, he doesn't have to.

And since Diapers Vitter is interfering with the process of replacing W. Flanagan and trying to ensure that a prosecutor of whom he approves handles the case, it seems pretty clear that there is a major crime going on.
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Do you have proof of this? If so, why have you not tried to get it sent to Eric Holder? I'm pretty sure the corruption of a federal prosecutor is something he'd be interested in.
 
Seems pretty clear this is going to be pled down substantially, and that it was a pretty stupid stunt to begin with. Despite Lefty's rape fantasies, I doubt any of these guys are going to end up doing hard time.

Has there ever been a case where a liberal filmmaker (like, say, Michael Moore) entered a congresscritter's office under false pretenses?
 
NoZed Avenger said:
It is unclear from the article. And the law varies from state to state, so I am not sure. There are some states in which you cannot record even your own coversations with others.
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In some US states, it is legal for a participant in a phone conversation to record it without the consent of the other party, in others, the consent of all parties is required.
 
CORed said:
In some US states, it is legal for a participant in a phone conversation to record it without the consent of the other party, in others, the consent of all parties is required.
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Irrelevant now based on O'Keefe's statement, which is consistent with the fact that he video taped the whole thing--no bugging or tampering with the phone system was done or attempted.
 
Right, ACORN employees do something stupid and wrong, and ACORN needs taken down. Brietbart's employees do something stupid and wrong, and it shouldn't reflect on his organization.

I think I understand now.
 
tyr_13 said:
Right, ACORN employees do something stupid and wrong, and ACORN needs taken down. Brietbart's employees do something stupid and wrong, and it shouldn't reflect on his organization.

I think I understand now.
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Technically speaking, O'Keefe isn't an employee of Brietbart.

But yea, I get what you're saying.
 
http://bigjournalism.com/kashiver/2...wning-in-its-own-leftist-ideology/#more-14682

James O’Keefe still gets my vote for investigative journalist of the year. Teaming with Hannah Giles to expose illegal and immoral tactics deep in the ACORN shakedown operation was brilliant. Now, O’Keefe has one-upped himself with his exposure of an MSM drowning in its own leftist ideology.

American journalists once cheered for those among their own who were brave enough to risk jail in the quest of exposing corruption and malfeasance. Yet when O’Keefe and his band of whippersnapper journalists went undercover, disguised as telephone repairmen in the hopes of exposing Senator Landrieu’s denying her own constituents phone access to her, the MSM fell all over themselves denouncing the young men.

Rush to judgment? No. It was a stampede.

From MSNBC, CBS, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, Talking Points Memo and others came shrill, utterly false headlines about “attempted bugging” and the “new Watergate,” which are now being corrected or retracted with but a faint whisper. MSM “journalists” in high-and-mighty places haven’t had this much egg on their faces since their coffee-klatch therapy sessions over the misunderstood, “non-jihadist” Ft. Hood terror attack.

Bravo Mr. O’Keefe, honey!
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tyr_13 said:
Right, ACORN employees do something stupid and wrong, and ACORN needs taken down. Brietbart's employees do something stupid and wrong, and it shouldn't reflect on his organization.

I think I understand now.
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How about a general case: To the extent that people are involved in things, they should be held responsible for the things in which they are involved.

I think we can all agree that's a reasonable rule, yes?

Of course, you still have to look at specific things, and at specific extents of involvement, on a case-by-case basis. I mean, you wouldn't demonize somebody marginally involved in a streetcorner shouting match the same way you'd demonize somebody intimately involved in a brutal murder, would you?

I certainly hope you're not trying to trick us into ignoring important questions like "what did ACORN employees actually do, and how involved was ACORN management?" and "what did O'Keefe actually do, and how involved was Breitbart?"!
 
theprestige said:
How about a general case: To the extent that people are involved in things, they should be held responsible for the things in which they are involved.

I think we can all agree that's a reasonable rule, yes?

Of course, you still have to look at specific things, and at specific extents of involvement, on a case-by-case basis. I mean, you wouldn't demonize somebody marginally involved in a streetcorner shouting match the same way you'd demonize somebody intimately involved in a brutal murder, would you?

I certainly hope you're not trying to trick us into ignoring important questions like "what did ACORN employees actually do, and how involved was ACORN management?" and "what did O'Keefe actually do, and how involved was Breitbart?"!
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No, I'm pointing out the rush to judgment and rush to defense ignore such questions.
 
Newtons Bit said:
Technically speaking, O'Keefe isn't an employee of Brietbart.
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Breitbart has been financing the maggot. He is an accessory before and after the fact in any illegal activities they engaged in from the time of the first ACORN frame-up to the time the FBI grabbed them.

Vitter is interfering with the process of getting rid of Flanagan and trying to keep his pet prosecutor in office. This could very well lead to the diaper boy going to the slammer.

The pimp still acts as thopugh he has some real mission going on. The drama around Vitter's interference in the prosecutor's office may be the smoking gun.
 
theprestige said:
I certainly hope you're not trying to trick us into ignoring important questions like "what did ACORN employees actually do,
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We have only the word of the people involved on both sides, and, given the pimp's and the sl;eaze's claims that nobody refused to help them and given the police report from Philly, the pimp is a liar, thus negating anything that his obviously doctored videos support.

and how involved was ACORN management?"
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Not a bit of it, actually. Ther only case that documents hoiw a higher headquarters handled it, in Las Angeles, has the high office sending the pimp away.

Total loss for the pimp.

and "what did O'Keefe actually do,
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He attempted to gain access to a phone closet for felonious purposes.

and how involved was Breitbart?"!
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Since the fake journalist is the financier of the thugs' mission, he has to wear it all. This is called the theory of "agency" and is the same basis on which Morris Dees takes down whole KKK organizations on the basis of one act by a thug.
 
leftysergeant said:
the pimp is a liar, thus negating anything that his obviously doctored videos support.
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The videos clearly show some employees assisting in prostitution and tax evasion, and that was enough to get them fired.


He attempted to gain access to a phone closet for felonious purposes.
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No bugging or phone tampering was planned or attempted. No felony attempt. They filmed the whole thing! The will likely get off with no jail.
 
Neally said:
The videos clearly show some employees assisting in prostitution and tax evasion, and that was enough to get them fired.
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No, they do not. At least there is no evidence that the employees really meant to help the pimp and the sleaze succede. There is the possiblity that they were setting him up and were just waiting for a chance to spring a trap on his sorry butt. There is the possibility that they intended to get the sleaze into a women's shelter and then bust the pimp's danglies. Did you see what the lady in L.A. tried to do? She was trying to get the worthlesslittle sleaze into a shelter program. When that failed, she tried to set up a supposed link with Larry Flynt. Trust me, if you are a dirty Republican, Larry Flynt is the last person you want anywhere near you, especially if it involves child prostitution.


No bugging or phone tampering was planned or attempted. No felony attempt. They filmed the whole thing! The will likely get off with no jail.
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Arguing facts not in evidence. There is evidence that the [pimp intended to do something spectacular to Landrieu. He coindemned himself by making statements to the lunatic right wing press that he would make a big show of what he did in N.O. I am sure that he meant to do something besides getting arrested looking like an ass clown. They wanted to get into that phone closet for some reason, I am sure. Just filming the security people doing what they are supposed to do is nothing to write home to poppa Breitbart about.

They were there to commit a crime, and that is all there is to it. Of the TWO possible crimes they could have committed, one is a federal felony good for ten years in prison and a massive fine.
 
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