Are there any other reports about WTC 7?

[Luntoc]

I was just wondering because I couldn't find anything else other than the final report by NIST.

 

[Thunder]

I was just wondering because I couldn't find anything else other than the final report by NIST.

BBC looked into it. that's two.

 

[Thunder]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_World_Trade_Center#Other_investigations

3?

 

[bardamu]

BBC looked into it. that's two.

They mentioned something about a diesel tank...

 

[funk de fino]

They mentioned something about a diesel tank...

So did NIST

 

[vinniem]

So did NIST

NIST abandoned the Diesel theory long before their final report came out. The BBC have been totally discredited by their biased and inaccurate 911 documentaries.

Face it, you are defending a report that puts the destruction of wtc7 down to normal office fires. Embarassed?

 

[dtugg]

Face it, you are defending a report that puts the destruction of wtc7 down to normal office fires. Embarassed?

What portion of the FDNY do you think was in on it? All of them? Most of them? Just a few? Just the former Chief?

Regarding WTC 7: The long-awaited US Government NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) report on the collapse of WTC 7 is due to be published at the end of this year (although it has been delayed already a few times [ adding fuel to the conspiracy theorists fires!]). That report should explain the cause and mechanics of the collapse in great detail. Early on the afternoon of September 11th 2001, following the collapse of WTC 1 & 2, I feared a collapse of WTC 7 (as did many on my staff).

The reasons are as follows:

1 - Although prior to that day high-rise structures had never collapsed, The collapse of WTC 1 & 2 showed that certain high-rise structures subjected to damage from impact and from fire will collapse.
2. The collapse of WTC 1 damaged portions of the lower floors of WTC 7.
3. WTC 7, we knew, was built on a small number of large columns providing an open Atrium on the lower levels.
4. numerous fires on many floors of WTC 7 burned without sufficient water supply to attack them.

For these reasons I made the decision (without consulting the owner, the mayor or anyone else - as ranking fire officer, that decision was my responsibility) to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed.

Conspiracy theories abound and I believe firmly that all of them are without merit.

Regards, Dan Nigro
Chief of Department FDNY (retired)

 

[funk de fino]

NIST abandoned the Diesel theory long before their final report came out. The BBC have been totally discredited by their biased and inaccurate 911 documentaries.

Not long before. He never mentioned it was about a theory, he says the BBC mentioned them. So did NIST. Look before you leap son.

Face it, you are defending a report that puts the destruction of wtc7 down to normal office fires. Embarassed?

Epic fail number 2. I never defended the report. Large office fires did this.



Only an idiot would think that fire cannot collapse steel framed buildings if they are not fought.

 

[BigAl]

NIST abandoned the Diesel theory long before their final report came out. The BBC have been totally discredited by their biased and inaccurate 911 documentaries.

Face it, you are defending a report that puts the destruction of wtc7 down to normal office fires. Embarassed?

In a "normal office fire", sprinklers work from the beginning to control the spread of fire and firemen show up in minutes and put water on the fire in time to prevent the structure from collapse.

All of that failed for WTC on 9/11.

The basic reason for the collapse of WTC7 was known from the start; Hours of unfought fire.

 

[vinniem]

In a "normal office fire", sprinklers work from the beginning to control the spread of fire and firemen show up in minutes and put water on the fire in time to prevent the structure from collapse.

All of that failed for WTC on 9/11.

The basic reason for the collapse of WTC7 was known from the start; Hours of unfought fire.

Unfought fire is not a guarantee of total global collapse.

 

[Edx]

Unfought fire is not a guarantee of total global collapse.

So were the FDNY firefighters liars, incompetents or stupid on 911 then?

 

[vinniem]

So were the FDNY firefighters liars, incompetents or stupid on 911 then?

False choice fallacy.

 

[dtugg]

False choice fallacy.

Name the other choice(s), twoofer.

 

[BigAl]

Unfought fire is not a guarantee of total global collapse.

So what? You added a word that is unnecessary and irrelevant. "Guaranteed" or not, it happened.

Un-fought fire exceeded the hour rating of the fireproofing and this allowed the steel to fail.

 

[vinniem]

Name the other choice(s), twoofer.

Don't think so, Duh-bunker.

 

[dtugg]

Don't think so, Duh-bunker.

No surprise, you obviously don't have one, twoofer. So now you're a liar.

 

[Edx]

Don't think so, Duh-bunker.

No no, name another choice.

Explain the FDNY quotes about Building 7. Explain how there are no dissenters anywhere either on or after 911.

I've asked you this before, and you avoid it.

Why do you do that? Why is this such an unfair question? The firefighter's do not agree with practically everything truther's claim about WTC7, so can you please explain why that is?

 

[Drudgewire]

Don't think so, Duh-bunker.

"Duh-bunker"... presuming to know what Randi would think of all this... a basic knowledge of who's who among us...

You've sure hit your stride considering it's your first month as a member.

 

[Horatius]

Unfought fire is not a guarantee of total global collapse.

"not a guarantee" =/= "impossible", but thanks for playing.

 

[funk de fino]

Unfought fire is not a guarantee of total global collapse.

really?



The resident sock has gone and now somone is posting exactly the same as him.

I repeat, only an idiot would believe that steel frame buidlings cannot collapse in unfought fires.