ACORN filmmaker arrested

[BeAChooser]

This brings to mind that recorded conversation between 2 republicans whose names escape me by an elderly couple using a cell phone scanner or some such.

Were there any charges levied in that? Anyone here remember what I'm talking about?

In 1997 Newt Gingrich, on a cell phone, asked several of his associates how to handle the House ethics charges against him. The call was overheard by a Florida couple (The Martin's). The couple claimed they did so accidentally. But they taped the conversation and then made it public via the office of Rep Jim McDermott (D-Wash). The couple were, after all, local democrat activists.

As to what happened to the couple, they eventually plead guilty to federal charges of illegally taping the call. They got fined five hundred dollars. And McDermott ended up with a million dollars in penalties for turning over the tape to the press when he knew the tape was illegally recorded.

But …

http://www.empireinv.com/newtstory.htm

The "accidental" taping of Newt Gingrich's cellular phone conference call was no accident, states communications security expert James Ross, president of Ross Engineering, Inc., a firm specializing in national and international technical surveillance countermeasures training. "The clarity of the transmission and its duration clearly indicate that a surveillance specialist monitored and taped the conversations of the speaker." The taping could only have been done by highly skilled professionals with sophisticated equipment supposed to be available only to authorities in law enforcement.

A team of seven Ross experts -- based in Virginia, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Texas, New York and Buenos Aires -- analyzed the circumstances of the Gingrich taping and proved that no standard scanner (such as the Florida couple claims to have used) could have recorded Gingrich's conversation continuously while moving.

… snip …

Conclusion: Chances are high that the individual with the cellular phone was under full-time surveillance.

So maybe there was even more to the story …

 

[Drysdale]

Interesting,thx

 

[Sporanox]

Hey, those creeps say it is not torture, in spite of all the people brighter than they are who say that it is. Guess there is only one way to teach morons like that that it is torture.



Waterboarding is not a way of extracting that intel. In cvase you missed it among the other words written on the subject, let me put it to you in a way that you might grasp.


IT DOESN'T WORK

Which is, of course, all beside the point.

The maggots were out to destroy people. Our prison system sucks, partly as a result of the way that the party for whom they are engaging in these crimes run a country. Too bad for them, and their discomfiture is of their own making.

This is the only truely funny schandenfreude.

It is not as funny to see the schlemiel drop mashed potatoes into the schlimmazel's lap as it is to see the schlimmazel toss his hot borscht into the face of the schlemiel when he jumps up in surprise.

Ah, so there would be no discernible goal other than your own self-gratification (seeing as there's no intel extractable from either of your targets, so it wouldn't prove anything to them), but you still want to waterboard those people even though you don't think we should waterboard KSM.

Explain to me if there's some other reason you would like the Fox crew and the Bush Administration waterboarded.

 

[FlamingMoe]

Hey, those creeps say it is not torture, in spite of all the people brighter than they are who say that it is. Guess there is only one way to teach morons like that that it is torture.



Waterboarding is not a way of extracting that intel. In cvase you missed it among the other words written on the subject, let me put it to you in a way that you might grasp.


IT DOESN'T WORK

Which is, of course, all beside the point.

The maggots were out to destroy people. Our prison system sucks, partly as a result of the way that the party for whom they are engaging in these crimes run a country. Too bad for them, and their discomfiture is of their own making.

This is the only truely funny schandenfreude.

It is not as funny to see the schlemiel drop mashed potatoes into the schlimmazel's lap as it is to see the schlimmazel toss his hot borscht into the face of the schlemiel when he jumps up in surprise.

So... you're against torture as a means to an end, but you're in favor of torture when it's torture for the sake of torture.

Just knowing that it's you who call people like me sociopathic is enough to make me laugh and vomit at the same time. Please stop. My nose can't take the burning.

 

[theprestige]

Wow, I hope this is parody becuase you are one sad human being.

More like a textbook case of Poe's Law, I think.

 

[theprestige]

for trying to wiretap a democratic senator's office:

Just to be clear: they have not actually been accused of trying to wiretap anything.

 

[332nd]

The wiretapping allegation is apparently false. The criminal affidavit (or whatever it's called) it's alleging intent to destroy the communications gear, not bug it.

Patterico has a good piece on what's actually in the criminal complaint. And as he's a prosecutor in L.A. he kind of knows what he's talking about.

Ah. Ok, that makes more sense.

 

[leftysergeant]

To interfere with government phone systems inany manner can get you ten in prison. What they were caught doing is a felony.

 

[leftysergeant]

Just knowing that it's you who call people like me sociopathic is enough to make me laugh and vomit at the same time. Please stop. My nose can't take the burning.

Yopu were cool with letting the maggots destroy the lives of ACORN workers. Why should I feel ashamed of laughing at the plight of thje maggots when they get caught actually doing something wrong?

 

[FlamingMoe]

Yopu were cool with letting the maggots destroy the lives of ACORN workers. Why should I feel ashamed of laughing at the plight of thje maggots when they get caught actually doing something wrong?

But that's not what you were talking about in the post I quoted.

You were talking about waterboarding certain people for your own titillation.

And you call us sociopaths.

 

[Newtons Bit]

To interfere with government phone systems inany manner can get you ten in prison. What they were caught doing is a felony.

You do realize that they didn't actually interfere with the phone systems, right? They may have been planning to, but even that's unclear at this point.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Yopu were cool with letting the maggots destroy the lives of ACORN workers.

I'll destroy the lives of anyone who attempts to aid and abet child prostitution and I won't feel the least bit bad about it.

 

[BeAChooser]

http://patterico.com/

A law enforcement official says the four men arrested for attempting to tamper with the phones in the New Orleans office of Sen. Mary Landrieu (D) were not trying to intercept or wiretap the calls.

The Washington Post, which this morning claimed otherwise, today had to retract that mistake — a grave error that Andrew Breitbart socked them for last night, and I socked them for this morning. Here is the relevant part of their embarrassing correction:

Earlier versions of this story incorrectly reported that James O’Keefe faced charges in an alleged plot to bug the office of Sen. Mary Landrieu. The charges were related to an alleged plot to tamper with a phone system. The headline incorrectly referred to a plot to bug the phone and a caption incorrectly referred to an alleged wiretap scheme.

So there was no intent to wiretap. Let’s dispel that idea now. Nobody is claiming he was trying to bug Landrieu. Everyone who compared this to Watergate was wrong, wrong, wrong — and should be embarrassed. Period.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Concealed carry is not disruptive. Open carry, as is the habit of Teabaggers where it is legal is. Openly carrying while displaying signs suggesting that the POTUS should be killed is disruptive. You have your priorities a bit skewed.

Carry, concealed or otherwise by paranoid extremists has a bad history.

When you stage-manage a public disturbance involving more than one or two people,

You never provided any evidence of "stage management".

it is best that at least your principle actors be identifiable.

Actually the opposite is true. Persons involved in a criminal enterprise will try to avoid leaving telltale signs.

The principle actors in the events that I pointed out were similarly dressed. What is so odd about my noticing that?

They were not similarly dressed.

There is no reason to assume that Breitbart was aware.

I'm glad we agree on that.

He was aware of what the maggots were doing to ACORN, and has aided and abetted their earlier criminal activity.

No evidence has been provided of criminal activity in the ACORN stings.... except of course by the ACORN staffers.

Both Breitbart and the maggots are out to destroy people's reputations with doctored videos.

There is no evidence that the videos were doctored.

Why would I assume that he was staying clean now?

He was clean in the past.

Aiding in a criminal act after the fact is a crime.

There is no evidence that Breitbart was involved in the incident at Senator Landrieus office. Either before or after the fact. Furthermore, he reported the event on his own websites on the same day it appeared in the media.

Bottom line: I'm going to give you the same advice we give your fellow truthers about your paranoid conspiracy theories in the 9/11 forum. Gather up your "evidence" and take it to the authorities. Let them handle it. Stop stroking your guns and fantasizing about the revolution, you are just going to get innocent people killed.

I know how you think and feel Lefty, I'm an ex-CTer myself. I believed absolutely everything about the Clinton administration. And I admit now that I was wrong. The Clintons were not behind the crash that claimed the life of Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, they did not murder Vince Foster, they did not deliberately botch the 1st Waco raid or the 2nd one that ended the siege.

Trust me when I tell you that I've been there, and it didn't do me any good. Get out of it before you mess yourself up even worse and for God's sake, leave the guns at home!

 

[Neally]

I appreciate what they did in exposing the corruption at ACORN. Doesn't make much sense that he would video tape themselves committing a crime. We'll understand better what their intent was as the facts come out.

 

[elbe]

I never had the impression that they were the sharpest knives

 

[leftysergeant]

I appreciate what they did in exposing the corruption at ACORN. Doesn't make much sense that he would video tape themselves committing a crime. We'll understand better what their intent was as the facts come out.

Their intent was criminal, no two ways about it. What they have done from day one of their fake journalistic carreers has been criminal. They all deserve the whole ten years in general population in a medium security lockup.

The pimp never did an honest day's work in his life. Time for him to get out of mom's basement and become a man.

 

[leftysergeant]

You never provided any evidence of "stage management".

The Teabaggers are guerrilla street theater orchestrated by that dirtbag Dick Armey.

No evidence has been provided of criminal activity in the ACORN stings.... except of course by the ACORN staffers.

Doctored tapes are only proof that Breitbart's scum are lying their butts off.

There is no evidence that the videos were doctored.

It is obvious to everyone who has not drunk the GOP Koolaid that they are.

There is no evidence that Breitbart was involved in the incident at Senator Landrieus office. Either before or after the fact. Furthermore, he reported the event on his own websites on the same day it appeared in the media.

He has pimp boy on a contract. By theory of agency, he's dirty.

Bottom line: I'm going to give you the same advice we give your fellow truthers about your paranoid conspiracy theories in the 9/11 forum. Gather up your "evidence" and take it to the authorities. Let them handle it.

ACORN and a couiplle state AGs are on it already. The crimes in NO are just gravy, and the accused when it all shakes out will be astounding. Like that dirtbag Federal Prosecutor and David "Diapers" Vitter.

 

[BenBurch]

I'll destroy the lives of anyone who attempts to aid and abet child prostitution and I won't feel the least bit bad about it.

And it does not even matter if its true, so thorough is your justice!

 

[leftysergeant]

And it does not even matter if its true, so thorough is your justice!

That's the whole point. Breitbart and the maggots are out to stir up mob violence, like all the teabaggers. Gullible people are willing to let dungballs like that destroy innocent people's careers without thinking. They just feel.

Notice that SoT is calling me a twoofer?