AE 911 Truth at Full Juggernaut Strength (1,000)

Yea, this is where I am confused. All these so-called experts brave enough to sign these online petitions--where are they? Aren't they brave enough to write papers and submit them to legitimate peer review? Aren't they brave enough to call their congressmen or local media? It appears they just want to sign and let somebody else do all the talking, somebody else who has no relevant expertise at ALL. What kind of 'expert' would be comfortable with that?
 
Yea, this is where I am confused. All these so-called experts brave enough to sign these online petitions--where are they? Aren't they brave enough to write papers and submit them to legitimate peer review? Aren't they brave enough to call their congressmen or local media? It appears they just want to sign and let somebody else do all the talking, somebody else who has no relevant expertise at ALL. What kind of 'expert' would be comfortable with that?

Showing a lot of names on the Net probably convinces the high school kids and the not so bright he has some kind of professional support. 911 Truth has become some sort of pyramid scheme. It's all about who can get to the top and scrap up what ever money's been collected. Where are these guys really? If CIT thinks they really have some amazing dirt on deep cover agente Lloyd England, why don't they go make some noise outside a TV station and see how much community support they can get.
 
Nice.. I agree ! One is enough and Richard Gage is our one..

See unlike Einstein convincing other scientists about some new phenomenum, the CD of the towers is so well understood that even Richard understands it, an architect with no previous tall building experience. He is now the Architect of Destruction and convinces over 90% of the people he talks to so we just need to get him in a room with some real engineers.

There is 10,000 going to the ASCE conference... I am sure that is the solution.

You are comparing Richard Gage with Einstein. Kudos. If I were you, I'd sign up for a logic class.

ETA - Wait, is this the satirical guy?
 
You are comparing Richard Gage with Einstein. Kudos. If I were you, I'd sign up for a logic class.

ETA - Wait, is this the satirical guy?


"For every kook that turned out to be an Einstein, there are 10,000 kooks who turn out to be kooks."


Play the short odds on this bet...


Tom
 
He is now the Architect of Destruction and convinces over 90% of the people he talks to....


Hey Tom, I think you need a break, take a seat...................


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I suspect a room full of ACSE members and and eyewitnesses, including firemen and the other first responders could be arraigned.


Nah, not even a "9/11 Truth™ Grand Jury" could get anyone arraigned.


(I know you meant to type "arranged" but, sorry, I couldn't resist). :p
 
Nice.. I agree ! One is enough and Richard Gage is our one..

See unlike Einstein convincing other scientists about some new phenomenum, the CD of the towers is so well understood that even Richard understands it, an architect with no previous tall building experience. He is now the Architect of Destruction and convinces over 90% of the people he talks to so we just need to get him in a room with some real engineers.

There is 10,000 going to the ASCE conference... I am sure that is the solution.

You are comparing Richard Gage with Einstein. Kudos. If I were you, I'd sign up for a logic class.

ETA - Wait, is this the satirical guy?

Oi... this whole comparison by 9/11 conspiracy peddlers of "their" researchers with real scientists would be funny if it weren't so sad. It reeks of a hubris so bad that even the Greek gods would shake their heads and go "Nah, leave 'em alone. They're so messed up they make Antigone's life look normal; we can damn them no worse". On top of that, their central delusion is based on such a fundamental misunderstanding of the accumulation and verification of knowledge that you worry for their ability to process mundane information unrelated to 9/11 conspiracy fantasy.

"For every kook that turned out to be an Einstein, there are 10,000 kooks who turn out to be kooks."

Play the short odds on this bet...


Tom

Yes, Tom, short odds indeed. And expanding on your mention of kooks, what was that thing that Sagan said about geniuses being laughed at? It's marginally applicable here:
But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.

Columbus, Fulton, and the Wright Brothers were validated not by the agitation of kooks, but by the verifiable demonstration of their inventions that actually worked according to principles proven through science, not principles in contradiction to what is currently known. Contrast that to Gage, who still insists on ignis fatuus that's not only not proven, but openly disproven. Thermite? Show me the molten steel columns (yes, here's my NCSTAR 1-3C statement again). Explosives? Show me the spalling and fragmentation of the steel.

Please. :rolleyes:

Let's avoid these fatuous comparisons of 9/11 conspiracy peddlers like Gage to scientists like Einstein who's work has actually been validated, and who's observations even now still lead to greater understanding. Gage hasn't even got his own profession's governing body to concede a smidgen of validity to his propositions.
 
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Hey we have 5 licensed structural/civil engineers registered in the New York State that were brave enough to sign up and we probably have double that in the tri-state area. So we have some support

Yea, this is where I am confused. All these so-called experts brave enough to sign these online petitions--where are they? Aren't they brave enough to write papers and submit them to legitimate peer review? Aren't they brave enough to call their congressmen or local media? It appears they just want to sign and let somebody else do all the talking, somebody else who has no relevant expertise at ALL. What kind of 'expert' would be comfortable with that?

Aw, give them a break, twinstead. They used up all their courage by coming out as incompetent nutjobs. ;)
 
Let's avoid these fatuous comparisons of 9/11 conspiracy peddlers like Gage to scientists like Einstein who's work has actually been validated, and who's observations even now still lead to greater understanding. Gage hasn't even got his own profession's governing body to concede a smidgen of validity to his propositions.



You may have missed the original reference ElMondo. The implication was that the AE 911 1,000 were comparable to the Nazi's and their persecution of Einstein. It was Tommy who extrapolated that and substituted Gage into the equation.

(See also Killtowns oxymoronic 250 Smoking Guns}

By all definitions one is always enough.


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Hey we have 5 licensed structural/civil engineers registered in the New York State that were brave enough to sign up and we probably have double that in the tri-state area. So we have some support
Are you joking? I hope they get fired from their jobs as soon as possible. I'll have to start avoiding the area in case I end up in something they worked on.

But seriously, where are they? Did they march in any of the We Are Change 911 Truth events? The answer's no because I would know if they had. So their names are just words on the Internet and the fact that you say they're "licensed structural/civil engineers" doesn't really matter, since it appears they're not willing to tell anyone in person.

So come on Tom, tell me where these guys are hiding? Why aren't they out there picketing a TV station demanding air time? Doesn't it bother them that you really mean the government murders citizens in the streets? In fact, how come all these professionals you keep telling me about are nowhere to be found when someone needs a face?

Are they afraid they'll get fired like all the idiots? And even though 99% of Americans believe the government was involved in 911, no one will raise a finger about it? They sure as s*** should be because if they did show up, they'd be on the street, like Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan.

But then you are just making this up, so it doesn't matter.
 
I think that Telltale Tom is doing parody. But with Poe's Law and all it is impossible to tell for sure.
 
He fooled me. I can't tell the difference parody and the real thing anymore. Everything these guys say is so ridiculous, I can't take much more of it.
 
He fooled me. I can't tell the difference parody and the real thing anymore. Everything these guys say is so ridiculous, I can't take much more of it.

Yeah, with bill smith, for example, everything that it says sounds like parody, but I think that it may be for real.
 
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I think that Telltale Tom is doing parody. But with Poe's Law and all it is impossible to tell for sure.



Interesting, must admit I had to wiki that.

The other side of the coin is that (I suspect) Truthers parody debunkers here too. No names mentioned.

Present company excepted of course :=]


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Truthers versus Debunkers
You guys do not have a chance

Whoever came up with the name Debunkers must be nuts. It sounds like a septic carbunkle.

If you want to succeed, you need a new name like 9/11Honesty or 9/11Science
Our people have faith that Truth will prevail. How can anyone believe in debunking, because without us you would be nothing.
 
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Truthers versus Debunkers
You guys do not have a chance

Whoever came up with the name Debunkers must be nuts. It sounds like a septic carbunkle.

If you want to succeed, you need a new name like 9/11Honesty or 9/11Science
Our people have faith that Truth will prevail. How can anyone believe in debunking, because without us you would be nothing.

:confused:

It's only truthers that need to make up dumb names for their 'movements' to make themselves sound interesting/relevant.

You do realise 'debunk' is just a general term for anyone who exposes false or exaggerated claims? It doesn't just apply to those people who happen to be exposing yours.

Keep having faith. Because you sure haven't got any evidence. (Thank you for admitting that the 'debunkers' have Honesty and Science on their side, though!)
 
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Truthers versus Debunkers
You guys do not have a chance

Whoever came up with the name Debunkers must be nuts. It sounds like a septic carbunkle.

If you want to succeed, you need a new name like 9/11Honesty or 9/11Science
Our people have faith that Truth will prevail. How can anyone believe in debunking, because without us you would be nothing.

False confidence ROCKS!
 

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