Ancient Pyramids and other structures, astronomical alignment & similarity.

Is this some kind of puzzle?

If you at least do enough research that you can frame a sensible question then the people here will try to answer it for you.
 
King of the Americas said:
There are 'answers', I was hoping for a discussion of each's validity.
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The Great Sphinx of Giza is a statue of a reclining lion with a human head that stands on the Giza Plateau in Giza on the west bank of the Nile, near modern-day Cairo, in Egypt. It is the largest monolith statue in the world, standing 73.5 metres (241 ft) long, 6 metres (20 ft) wide, and 20.22 m (66.34 ft) high.[1] It is the oldest known monumental sculpture, and is commonly believed to have been built by ancient Egyptians of Old Kingdom in 2555 BC to 2532 BC.[1][2]
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That's what Wiki reckons. Sounds okay to me. Any reason to think this is drastically incorrect?
 
King of the Americas said:
Question, "How old is the Sphinx?"
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As noted above, really old. And it might be even older than that, as in "really, really old," but most estimates hover around the reigns of three pharaohs who were father, son, and grandson so there's just a few years difference and that's just not that much when discussing something that's really old and took some time to carve with, as seen on "Nova" the other night, rocks and copper chisels that needed to be resharpened really often.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Sphinx_of_Giza
 
Very good article.

I really liked the note at the end ..

With 1,500 locations, Brooks had almost twice as much data to work with, and on this issue Parker is clear: "It is extremely important to look at how much data people are using to support an argument. For example, the case for global warming covers vast amounts of comprehensive evidence, but it is still possible for people to search through the data and find a few isolated examples that appear to show otherwise."
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swskeptic said:
Basically he was dumbfounded by the fact that most ancient structures are cocked just right so as to align perfectly with the solstices and whatnot.
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I'd say he's making a wrong assumption. I doubt very much that most ancient structures are astronomically aligned.

I think he's only considering structures that are astronomically aligned and then being amazed that they're all astronomically aligned. Which of course is silly.

If you only count structures with 4 walls, isn't it amazing that they all have 4 walls? Or if you only count circular structures, isn't it amazing that they're all circular? :)
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
I'd say he's making a wrong assumption. I doubt very much that most ancient structures are astronomically aligned.

I think he's only considering structures that are astronomically aligned and then being amazed that they're all astronomically aligned. Which of course is silly.

If you only count structures with 4 walls, isn't it amazing that they all have 4 walls? Or if you only count circular structures, isn't it amazing that they're all circular? :)
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All circular buildings incorporate pi in their structures. Proof of ancient knowledge.
 
swskeptic said:
Now, here lies the problem. I know what I said to him wasn't obviously a great explanation and I'd like to hear an explanation for this myself. If anyone here knows anything about this or can find something I'd appreciate it. All I can really find is woowoo mumbojumbo. Thanks!
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Okies as simply as I can put it,

in the days before architecture people would have still engaged in rituals at certain parts of the year, wether that was a ritual to thank the gods for being Godlike or a ritual to thank the stars for twinkling isn't important. What became important was that the rituals took place on the same date so became traditional. Originally people would have noticed that certain stellar markers were in the same position only once a year and they'd look for a ground position as a reference so that they'd know when that was. Eventually when they got round to building temples to venerate the same objects/Gods they simply lined them up with that same direction. This is well attested from Mesopotamia where the majority of central Ziggurats line up with the Pleaides on the vernal equinox (ancient world new year). When that happened the priests knew to start the ritual year from the correct point so that all the other special rituals were timed from that. So the orientation of the building became important to the entire belief structure of the culture concerned. The best example I can find textually which confirms this is the Epic of Gilgameshwhere it says
Go up on the wall of Uruk and walk around,
examine its foundation, inspect its brickwork thoroughly.
Is not (even the core of) the brick structure made of kiln-fired brick,
and did not the Seven Sages themselves lay out its plans?
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the seven sages (Apkallu) are represented in the Mesopotamian sky by the Pleides, which also happens to be the ritual new year marker, so the passage is saying that the structure of the Uruk Ziggurat was laid out in line with the new year and the building itself actually does align to that.
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KOTA, I can see youre going down the same "Aliens did it" route, why don't you dry that out and fertilise your lawn with it. True the base of the pyramid of the sun might match that with the great pyramid to a 97% accuracy, but the base of pyramid of the sun is orientated in a different direction (nne) while the base of the great pyramid is aligned to the cardinal points, add to that the base of the current pyramid was not the base built by the culture themselves but was reconstructed from rubble 100 years ago in 1910. so basically that claim is saying "look look using erroneous meassurements of the pyramid of the sun as a guide I managed to find one building in the entire western world which has nearly the same size base,"
what about the thousands that don't, what about the height differences, what about the complete dissimilarity of materials and the total non conformity of the cultures that built them, didn't the aliens have any input there ?
apart from anything else the great pyramid was built more than 2000 years earlier
hehe
world-mysteries is not a good source. in fact, its not even a slightly good source, it is essentially completely pseudohistoric and only retards and children think otherwise
http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2.htm
http://www.world-mysteries.com/gp_ps.jpg
:D
 
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Akhenaten said:
You might want to point out that termite mounds around the world Gondwana are all nicely lined up with True North and ask about the religious significance of that.
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Been spending too much time perusing the CT threads, I first thought you wrote, "thermite mounds".

Of course, they would have collapsed from the top down.
 
Skeptic Guy said:
Been spending too much time perusing the CT threads, I first thought you wrote, "thermite mounds".

Of course, they would have collapsed from the top down.
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wouldn't they need something to fly into them to appease the enquiring minds of watching termites as to why it collapsed at all?

Awesome, thanks
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Akhenaten said:
Meh. If you're not using Crux, you're all out of line, silly top-halfers.




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ETA: And Achernar, of course.
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Sigh, someday I will travel that far south, I have been to Oxaca Mexico and somewhere on the isthmus, I liked what i saw.
 
Dancing David said:
Pyramid of the Sun:
Height 233.5 feet/71.2 metres
Base perimeter 2,932.8 feet/893.9 metres
Side 733.2 feet/223.5 metres
1/2 Side 366.6 feet/111.7 metres
Angle of slope 32.494
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And now can we has the same stats on the Great Pyramid...?

I am really only interested in the size of the base, who's sides of the square base are 725-750 ft each...I think...?
 
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