AE 911 Truth at Full Juggernaut Strength (1,000)

Lenbrazil said:
As I did a few months ago I copied and pasted the licensed US architects and engineers from Gage’s petition into Word and let it do the counting for me. It contains 173 licensed US architects. One is a landscape architect, 24 are expired, inactive and/or retired thus AE911T has 148 active licensed architects. “Architects held about 141,200 jobs in 2008” thus just over 1 in 1000 belong to Gage’s group. 183 licensed US engineers on the petition however 14 are retired or expired which leaves us 169 active US engineers. “In 2008, engineers held about 1.6 million jobs.” Thus Gage has just over one in 10,000 active US engineers. This is assuming all the American As and Es who gave license numbers are legit. Counting the retirees and foreigners he has about 600 licensed A and E's.

And of the As and Es including the retirees, foreigners and unlicensed ones very few it seems bothered to read the NIST report. Only 20 or so claim to be structural engineers only 12 of whom are licensed in the US but I was only able to identify 1 based looking at AE911T bios/comments and doing Google searches who worked on tall buildings.

http://www.ae911truth.org/signpetition.php
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos038.htm#emply
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos027.htm#emply
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.....And the foreign contingent bring the total membership up to 1,000 degreed and/or licensed engineers and architects demading a new and independent 9/11 enquiry.
 
Lenbrazil said:
As I did a few months ago I copied and pasted the licensed US architects and engineers from Gage’s petition into Word and let it do the counting for me. It contains 173 licensed US architects. One is a landscape architect, 24 are expired, inactive and/or retired thus AE911T has 148 active licensed architects. “Architects held about 141,200 jobs in 2008” thus just over 1 in 1000 belong to Gage’s group. 183 licensed US engineers on the petition however 14 are retired or expired which leaves us 169 active US engineers. “In 2008, engineers held about 1.6 million jobs.” Thus Gage has just over one in 10,000 active US engineers. This is assuming all the American As and Es who gave license numbers are legit. Counting the retirees and foreigners he has about 600 licensed A and E's.

And of the As and Es including the retirees, foreigners and unlicensed ones very few it seems bothered to read the NIST report. Only 20 or so claim to be structural engineers only 12 of whom are licensed in the US but I was only able to identify 1 based looking at AE911T bios/comments and doing Google searches who worked on tall buildings.
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But that is one of the strengths of our organization. With only 1 in 10,000 licensed professionals supporting us the only way to go is up

So you guys better get used to it.
 
Telltale Tom said:
But that is one of the strengths of our organization. With only 1 in 10,000 licensed professionals supporting us the only way to go is up

So you guys better get used to it.
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The list is good for identifying people who can't think for themselves and support liars who apologize for terrorists by spewing moronic delusions. Be proud, you organization is only goal is support Gage's travels and support him; so you are supporting full employment and lies about 911 by supporting Gage; such a great noble patriotic thing to do.

I will sum up your evidence to support Gage's idiotic nonsense:
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Yep, the empty set for 8 years and counting. What a grand delusion you have; if you are not on meds celebrate, most people need to stay up for days, or be on medication to achieve the level of delusions you share with Gage as he travels on the dime of the gullible and those who lack the knowledge to make rational conclusions on 911.

The list is a joke and those who signed up made a mistake or are as dumb on 911 as Gage's failed ideas are.

Take your list of woo believers and go to CBS, even Dan Rather could figure out you guys are promoting nut case crazy ideas on 911. 8 years of failure now only those who lack knowledge and don't understand Gage is liar sign up for the list of shame.

You are joking right? Hope you did not sign up for the Gage junk, it could be a big problem when you go to get a job where being the need to make rational conclusions is important; if you are fiction writer, go ahead sign up, the Gage junk is pure fiction.
 
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Sword_Of_Truth said:
You left out AE911T member and certified engineer Charles Pegelow, who believes that nuclear weapons were used to destroy the twin towers on 9/11?

Why is that?
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Well I just went through the list an the ae911truth web site. I went thro the list quite carefully so he is either not a NY PE or not a signatory of the petition

I hope I missed 1 or 2 because I was really dissappointed to only find 9 licensed architects and 5 licensed structural engineers in New York State
 
bill smith said:
It's amazing that all the other PE's in NY do not help the government out by showing up here for instance. It's just amazing that the Truth movement should have five named PE's from NY and that the government have none. Maybe we should get a state-by-state listing of what engineer is registered as supporting the government story and which ones support the science of ae911truth.org.

Dr.Griffin believes that we have far more people that we can specifically name as supporters than the government does.

PS. Maybe Richard Gage should consider sending out questionnaires to selected typres of engineer in America or in other countries asking for an opinion. This could tell a hell of a lot. What they say....whether they reply at all...whether they demand that their name be kept hidden.....This could mean massive publicity and a leap in membership.
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Another brilliant idea Bill. There must be about 20,000 PE structural engineers in the state

We could make them answer the question as a condition of renewing their PE license.

I am sure that would increase our support beyond the current five

Then if we got say 100 who believed the towers were brought down by explosives that would be reasonable doubt and the state would have to investigate

And the process would generate lots of interest

Brilliant
 
bill smith said:
It's amazing that all the other PE's in NY do not help the government out by showing up here for instance. It's just amazing that the Truth movement should have five named PE's from NY and that the government have none. Maybe we should get a state-by-state listing of what engineer is registered as supporting the government story and which ones support the science of ae911truth.org.

Dr.Griffin believes that we have far more people that we can specifically name as supporters than the government does.

PS. Maybe Richard Gage should consider sending out questionnaires to selected typres of engineer in America or in other countries asking for an opinion. This could tell a hell of a lot. What they say....whether they reply at all...whether they demand that their name be kept hidden.....This could mean massive publicity and a leap in membership.
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How many times do we have to go through this. First off, I do not know what you mean by the "Truth movement". If you mean people whose name appears on the AE911 website petition, this is a rather weak meaning. None of these peple have ever shown up anywhere to express their beliefs publically. Some of these names were put up their years ago, and it is not clear what the status of this belief is anymore. Of people who are willing to march in public to protest express some 911 conspiracy-related belief, almost all of them are high school students.

All this talk about engineers and the Truth movement may sound brave, but it's all imaginary. You make it sound like 911 Truth is the divisive issue in America. It is not. It is something that a handful of easily excitable folks write about endlessly on the Internet. There is no real Truth movement. Advocates of the Truth movement get fired BECAUSE they support it and what happens? Absolutely nothing.

I am really sure what you're saying, but if there was any real support for this crap, it ended when Steven Jones got fired and no one said a word. He was removed from a tenured position at a major university and not a peep from the faculty or student's associations. Then it's Val Jones, and there's not a peep either from this huge public that you claim support 911 Truth. The list is long and continues to this day.

Let's just say that while there may be a vast public support for the idea that the President of the USA murdered citizens by the thousands in 2001, no one - absolutely no one - seems to act on this belief.
 
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Telltale Tom said:
Another brilliant idea Bill. There must be about 20,000 PE structural engineers in the state

We could make them answer the question as a condition of renewing their PE license.

I am sure that would increase our support beyond the current five

Then if we got say 100 who believed the towers were brought down by explosives that would be reasonable doubt and the state would have to investigate

And the process would generate lots of interest

Brilliant
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Good luck convincing the Office of the Professions of the New York State Education Department of such a plan. Their contact info is:
The Office of the Professions has an automated customer service system that allows callers to verify licenses, request information, and hear automated messages 24 hours a day. Staff are available from 8:30am to 4:45 pm, Eastern time, Monday through Friday, excluding holidays.
NY State Education Department
Office of the Professions
89 Washington Avenue
Albany, New York 12234-1000
Phone: 518-474-3817
TDD/TTY: 518-473-1426
Fax: 518-474-1449
E-mail: op4info@mail.nysed.gov
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AZCat said:
Good luck convincing the Office of the Professions of the New York State Education Department of such a plan. Their contact info is:
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This should be no problem. 911 Truth is the divisive issue in American society. The Revolution's coming. Everyone knows it. I am sure that there are ohhhhhh so many officials here and there willing to assist in your struggle against the tyranny that slaughters thousands.

Or at least I am sure that if they have never heard about 911 Truth - hahaha - you're introduction of it is sure to make it the issue that tears the Association apart.

Best of luck. Let me know how it works out.
 
Telltale Tom said:
I couldn't agree more Bill and I can't wait to see our media blitz.

But lets not mislead people. We have now hit our first 1,000 degreed and/or licensed architects and engineers, not degreed and licensed.

It proves that Richard Gage's trips to Europe and Australia are worthwhile as our first thousand includes engineers from Australia, Italy and many other countries. Our 1,000 engineers not only includes structural engineers, but electrical, chemical, mechanical, aeronautical and many other disciplines too so we are a truly diverse organization.

This international movement will prove what the NY licensed engineers and architects refuse to acknowledge: that these towers were blown up.

I am sure these numbers will embarrass the hell out of people.
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lol..is that number based on the website list? Any idea how many of those names were faked?

Anyway, 10% of people in almost any field are crackpot nutjobs, why should engineering be any different.

I personally can't wait to see your "media blitz" either. please let me know when it shows up.

TAM:D
 
Telltale Tom said:
But that is one of the strengths of our organization. With only 1 in 10,000 licensed professionals supporting us the only way to go is up

So you guys better get used to it.
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At that rate, what you should be telling us is that our great great great great grandchildren should get use to it.

1 in 10,000 over a period of 8 years, with the rate of expansion likely slowing as time distances itself from the event.

Good luck...your funny.

TAM:D
 
Telltale Tom said:
We could make them answer the question as a condition of renewing their PE license.

I am sure that would increase our support beyond the current five
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Hoh... Should this apply the architects as well? At any rate I look forward to the results of your proposal when it's brought to the attention of the proper venues. I'm pessimistic of course about the success rate. :)
 
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Edit: Nevermind.

It was sarcasm. No stundie nomination for me. :wackyrealmad:
 
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Telltale Tom said:
Another brilliant idea Bill. There must be about 20,000 PE structural engineers in the state

We could make them answer the question as a condition of renewing their PE license.
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You and what frakking army?

Mainstream politicians can't run away from you froot loops fast enough, yet you are somehow going to force the addition of a question to the states engineering certification exams?

I am sure that would increase our support beyond the current five
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Possibly as high as seven!

Then if we got say 100 who believed the towers were brought down by explosives
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...then you would have 19,900 engineers who think you're full of @#$%.

that would be reasonable doubt
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No it wouldn't.

and the state would have to investigate
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No they wouldn't.

And the process would generate lots of interest
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Only because the Leno-Conan feud is starting to get old.

Brilliant
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You misspelled "frakking stupid". Having 19,900 engineers on our side means we win.
 
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